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Monday, June
14, 2010
Book
Dear Ed,
I don't know if it is you personally that reads this mail. But if, I
just want to take the time to say I really admire your work, and the way
it appear you are thinking about the market. I am currently studying and
spending my nights trying to build different trend following system.
Whether or not they work is a different story but I find great pleasure
in analyzing the numbers. So its a win win situation:-)
But that is not why I am sending this E- mail. I was wondering where you
can get a hold of your book The Trading Tribe. And also, are you
planning on publishing anything new in the near future
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I have staff help in
preparing the left side of the column; I write the right side.
You can order my book per the link at the top of this page.
I plan to have my next book to the printer by September 23. |
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Monday, June
14, 2010
Happy
Dear Ed,
A very
interesting clip:
Are you Happy? |
Thank you for the clip.
Some strive to be happy; others learn to accept all feelings along with
their positive intentions. |
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Monday, June
14, 2010
Math-a-Magics
Dear Ed,
Thought you
would like this:
http://www.amazon.com/Dynamical-
Systems-Applications-using-
MATLAB/dp/0817643214/ref=sr_1_10?
ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1276526597&sr=8-10
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Thank you for the link.
You might consider working out your models on an Excel spreadsheet
before you tackle the intricacies of Runga-Kutta and stiff matrices. |
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Monday, June
14, 2010
Wants the Two-Week Rule System
Dear Mr. Seykota,
Thank you very much for your answer
but at
http://www.seykota.com/tribe/
charts/Donchian/Default.aspx
I only find back-testing. for Richard Donchian
6 MONTH-Rule System
I would like to see the back-testing. for Richard Donchian 2 week-Rule
System
Do you have it? and if not can you advise, please a way to make back
testing?
Thank you very much for your help!
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You might consider studying
the Trading System Project (TSP) files - and then running the tests
yourself.
If you want me to do it for you, please see my terms for private
consulting at the bottom of the Ground Rules page. |
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Monday, June
14, 2010
Book Price
Dear Chief Seykota,
First of all
congratulations for your website. You are a living legend to me and I
find it fantastic that you do take time to help other people in their
search for an healthier life.
I would like to buy your book but I live in [Country]
and I was wondering if the price indicated (125 USD) does include
delivery to Continent.
If not, please simply tell me which price should I pay, and I'll
transfer via PayPal the right amount.
PS: Should you come around [City] do not
hesitate to get in touch, I will be glad to meet you and show you around. |
Thank you for your invitation
to visit.
The price of the book is the same everywhere and includes postage. |
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Monday, June
14, 2010
Relating to Children
Chief,
Thank you for your interest on my relationship to my children and wife
and for your ideas. The day after our talk I visit my children. My son
(12 years old) asks me each time that he sees me “How are you doing?”. I
can really feel his interest: he is sincerely asking HOW I FEEL. He has
an argument with his younger brother and shouts at him. The little boy
is scared and cries. I tell my son that I would like to talk to him. He
wants to make a phone call. I wait. As he finishes I talk with him:
- “Maybe you recall that I used to shout at you, and that you were
afraid of me”.
- “Yes, I do”.
- “When you shout at people, you scare them. It is ok, if that is what
you want. But maybe you have a different goal. I think that it is
important that you know that”.
- “Dad, how should I react when my little brother harasses me?”
- “Well, maybe you can tell him that he is irritating you and ask him
about his intentions”.
- “Well, thank you for your advice. I will consider it”.
Shortly after that I meet my wife. I ask her:
- “How are you doing?”
- “Hnnng.”
- “I wonder what you mean, hnnng.”
- “I don't know how I am doing.”
- “I see. Yesterday I had a long talk with Ed. Do you remember him?”
- “Yes, he is the guy who is guilty for everything”.
- “I see. Well, I have to buy some groceries. Bye”.
Some people walk the road from control to intimacy. Some others stumble
over scapegoats.
As always, I appreciate your comments and pointing to inconsistencies
from my side.
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Thank you for sharing your
process.
You might consider taking your feelings about <wanting your wife to
behave according to your model> to Tribe. |
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Monday, June
14, 2010
Attracting Women
Chief,
1. After a very promising start, a lovely girl does not answer my calls.
I sleep badly for several days. I think a lot about her. The feeling is
“I don't know what she wants to do/I don't know what is happening”, and
it is very nasty. I take it to the hotseat; after that, the same feeling
is loads of fun. After I accept the feeling, I expect a resolution of
the conflict: maybe she calls me, or I understand what she is doing, or
whatsoever. Fred decides differently: the very next day a very
attractive woman contacts me and makes very clear that she wants to have
sex with me. We start an affair. The issue with the first girl turns
completely irrelevant. I plainly do not care anymore about her.
2. Some days later I manage a process. The person on the hot seat, a
woman, is a new member of my Tribe. I find her very attractive, and
before the meeting she sends some signals which I interpret as interest
on me. During the process I cannot concentrate; I start thinking about a
relationship with her. I tell it to her and she answers cordially that
she finds me a very nice person, but she does not want to have a
relationship with me. I feel horribly. The next day we talk: we both
feel that the process activates some mutual feelings that we are trying
to avoid. To me, it is “I am ugly, I am too short, and women do not feel
attracted by me”. We decide to host a second meeting the same day. She
works on her issue, and I on mine. I do not recall digging so deep and
putting so much effort to “knack” a feeling before. It seems to be a
really core issue. With her support I do it. After that, the notion of
“I am ugly and too short, and women do not feel attracted by me” makes
me laugh very loud.
FOUR HOURS LATER I meet a really very attractive woman who shows a lot
of interest on me; we agree to spend a holiday together in a few weeks.
TTP is plainly magic.
Chief, I recall telling this to you before, but I repeat it: I really
appreciate your guidance and your work on me. I am very thankful for
your friendship. Thank you.
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Thank you for sharing your
process and your insights about attracting women.
You might consider taking your feelings about <wanting what you cannot
have> to Tribe. |
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Monday, June
14, 2010
Sticking to
the System
Dear Support Team,
At the April Workshop, I commit to making my investment management
business a success. To me, this entails becoming a world class trader
and fund manager, as measured by performance. Rather than simply
updating my previous status report, I plan to share with you
developments toward my commitment and my thoughts and feelings along the
way.
At the Workshop, you may recall my taking the Hot Seat. It’s a cathartic
experience, leaving me feeling more present and comfortable in my own
skin. Since that time I notice other changes. I am more confident than
ever. I really believe that I can accomplish anything I want, which is
invigorating. Some of my relationships change, mostly for the better.
However, in the case of one family member who attempts to pull me into
dramas, we drift apart. I love her dearly and this makes me sad.
Ironically, “sticking to my trading system”, the issue I take the Hot
Seat over at the workshop, does not improve initially. Despite my
efforts, I find myself breaking my rules on several occasions. I feel
hopeless and ashamed by this and decide that I am simply not going to
break my rules anymore. I begin a journal where I record my feelings,
thoughts and actions when I get an urge to jump the system. This turns
into a mini Hot Seat session at my desk with lots of squinting, lip
pursing, fiddling of my fingers and bobbing my head. The feelings I have
in the moment of these urges are very strong; I think I am experiencing
them through this process. I am now following my system. Further, I hope
this journaling exercise helps me identify issues to work through at
Trading Tribe.
I know that I stick to the system and develop a stellar track record ,
and I’m enjoying the challenge.
Thanks for your support,

clip:
www.marketwatch.com/trading-strategies |
Thank you for sharing your
process and your method for sticking to your system. |
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Monday, June
14, 2010
Displaced Moving Average
Hi Ed,
I would like to purchase some of your specialized knowledge and your
Technical Indicator products, in particular the displaced moving average
(dma).
What I would like to know is that I am currently displaying a dma length
of 20 bars & a displacement of 10 bars back on the chart & price is on
close of the bars.
Can the length
of the 20 bar dma be projected 10 bars to the current bar, in real-time,
in its displaced form because when its offset 10 bars back, it is
useless for me to make any real time trading decisions on the current
trading bar, that is right on the hard right hand edge of the trading
screen ??
Please feel free to call me or email me in Melbourne, Australia if you
can help me with this problem so I can find a solution.
Or
If your not able to assist me can you recommend any other person who
specializes in this area of mathematical projections of this type of
technical indicator.
E.G. a mathematician or statistician or close friend like [Name] ??
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I do not purvey technical
indicators.
You might consider back-testing the putative DMA.
You might like to tell me how in the world you go about fetching the
moving average for five days in the future and bringing it back into the
now to use as an indicator.
If you can do that, you might consider bringing back the price itself. |
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Sunday, June
13, 2010
Report on Austin Tribe Session #2:
From Control to Intimacy
Dear Ed,
In session #1 of the Austin Tribe I learned about the value of the
Intimacy-Centric model. In session #2 I learned some powerful resources
for the practical application of the Intimacy-Centric model in my life.
The three hot seats of the session turned out to be about dramas caused
by the Control-Centric model: the first was about a dysfunctional
relationship with a mother-in-law, the second was about physical abuse
by a bullying older brother, and the third was about an abusive father.
I will not go into the personal and painful details of the specific
dramas. Nonetheless, with the help of some powerful role-playing
exercises it very revealing to see the Control-Centric model as the
common cause and the Intimacy-Centric model as the common solution.
The transformation caused by the application of the Intimacy-Centric
model was almost incredible especially because at the start of each of
these hot seats I could not see the applicability of the
Intimacy-Centric model to these specific situations. Yet, as a result of
the willingness of each of the respective tribe members on the hot seat
to change and to apply the new model, significant progress could be
noted by the end of each of these hot seats.
The key to living the Intimacy-Centric model is to focus on feelings
rather than on logic. There are two facets to the focus on feelings: ask
the person you desire to be intimate with if he/she would like to share
their feelings with you, and ask the person you desire to be intimate
with if you can share your feelings with him/her. During this process of
sharing feelings, I have to be careful not to become judgmental or to
apply logic. Instead, I should be open and receptive, thank the person
for sharing his/her feelings, give him/her an opportunity to share more
and deeper feelings and thank the person for listening to my feelings.
That’s it. This TTP technology is opening up a whole new and better
world for me in ways that just a few weeks ago I could never have
imagined.
Thank you very much Ed and thanks also to my fellow tribe members. |
Thank you for sharing your
process and your insights. |
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Sunday, June
13, 2010
Time Wasters & Commitments
Dear Ed,
Since our first Tribe meeting, I progress nicely towards completing my
project. This makes me happy. However, I feel upset and uneasy with
myself because I pass up many opportunities to work on my project during
the two weeks. Instead of working on it I waste time with things that do
not bring about completion and do not need to be done. The activities I
do instead are truly time wasters. This is a recurring event in my life
from projects at work to chores at home and everything in between.
I am thinking about this when the meeting begins and feel a mixture of
happiness that I am reporting some good progress but a disappointment
that I didn’t do more when I know I could have. Ed explains this may be
a carry on effect from public school. It may have something to do with
getting a feeling of satisfaction that I completed the task on time.
As the meeting goes on I let those feelings pass. I focus on the now and
commit to support my fellow Tribe members by being in the now. One
member expresses he has a problem with his mother-in-law and wants help.
However, it seems clear in a short period of time that the issue has
more to do with his wife and mother. I participate as a role player. It
is fun and exciting. I enjoy helping my Tribesman.
He is given several new resources to use. Some he is comfortable with
others not so much. We experiment and try to discover those resources
that falter and those that will work. We try one or two that move us
back towards logic or even ask the other person to tell us “why we can’t
have something.” Ed says you can’t out-logic a woman. I realize that the
arguments we have are not normally about logic and reason rather they
are about filling the intimacy void that is left by the control centric
model.
Whether it is a fight between husband and wife about spending, big
brothers bullying little brothers, or dads beating sons while moms and
sisters accommodate, they are all centered around a lack of intimacy and
the desire that each player in the drama has to feel… to feel loved, to
feel respected, to feel needed, to feel cared for, to feel like the
protector they want to feel like.
During dinner I commit to myself that I would volunteer for the hotseat
tonight. Ed asks if someone has something they want to work on. I raise
my hand at the same time as another member. Ed asks the other Tribe
member what he wanted to work on and then asked what I wanted to work
on. I want to work on my problem of wasting time rather than moving
forward. Ed jokes and says he is supporting my “all powerful” intention
by helping me put this off. I laugh and feel that is okay. My fellow
Tribesmen has an issue that seems to better fit the tone of the evening.
After the meeting I start to realize that my goal I set at dinner was
met. My goal was to volunteer for the hotseat. Which I did. I never set
a goal to actually go through with it. I am happy because, I did what I
committed to do. I stepped out despite being nervous and volunteered for
the hot seat. Perhaps I need to take the feeling of being nervous about
stepping out to the hot seat instead of procrastination. I wonder if
they are tied together. Maybe they are tied together in the same knot
and are really just two sides of the same coin.
I learn that a goal and a commitment are very powerful. I want to be
sure to define my commitments better so I get what I really want rather
than just the first step. This also makes wonder about the power of
setting a goal and committing to it. I feel awe. |
Thank you for sharing your
process and your insights about completions. |
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Sunday, June
13, 2010
Trading Systems Project
Hi Ed
Thank you for giving us the TSP exercises to enrich our knowledge.
Approx 9 months ago I replicate the EA crossover system in Excel.
I am pleased with myself.
At my place of employment, the investment department produces a similar
system using SMA. Their optimal results are similar. This is a further
confirmation for me of the EA system results and of long term trend
following.
I begin replicating the SR system in Excel straight after completing the
EA exercise.
I don’t get very far, I get stuck, I can’t seem to make progress.
I find the SR system much more difficult than the EA system.
The SR system is intuitively simple, but when I attempt to replicating
the results in excel I get confused between all the decisions which have
to be made, and the order that they have to be made in.
I can’t seem to write the formulas. They don’t seem to work.
I start to feel that perhaps it may be beyond me.
I doubt myself, perhaps I am not smart enough.
I get distracted by other problems in my life. I’m always too busy and
can’t seem to find the time, I always seem to tired or have some kind of
excuse.
The SR system is always in the back of my mind. I know that I can’t
trade anyway as I have no equity stake. I need to build up a significant
amount of capital until I can begin trading with a system of my own.
After a long break I decide to try the SR system again. I think about
it.
I have a breakthrough. I come up with a plan to draw a decision tree for
each problem I face. I structure the tree so that I ask a simple
question for each of the required decisions. The yes / no answers lead
down a branch of the tree to further decisions with further Yes/No
answers until I reach the outcomes I seek.
I use these decision trees to create IF statements and find it almost
effortless.
I use this method to complete the required logic for the system.
I complete the system.
I match Ed’s results for the 140/20 system and the 120/45
I feel really pleased and proud of myself.
I complete the exercise by running a simulation using the same
optimization grid as Ed’s.
I graph the Bliss.
I notice some problems.
I end up with errors in my formulas and I trace this to the LN of
negative numbers.
I notice this is where I end up with negative equity. I realize this is
impossible, I correct this by only allowing the equity to drop to zero.
I notice a further problem. It makes me uneasy. I notice that not all my
results are the same as Ed’s when I compare my grid against Ed’s. I’m
not sure how these differences arise.
My optimimal bliss solution appear as the 20/15. I worry that if I
didn’t have Ed’s results to compare with I may base my decisions on
incorrect results.
I see that this set of parameters are surrounded by low bliss, so this
parameter set’s results seems a bit dubious.
Ed please could you post the results of the 20/15 to enable me to find
my errors.
I submit my rendition of the SR system and the results for your
comments.
I think about the system.
I wonder what would be the warning signs that the results from a
particular set of parameters are not valid?
I wonder if it is better to pick the highest bliss solution for live
trading or would it perhaps be better to use a more robust set of
parameters such as those surrounded by similar bliss results, even if
these were slightly sub-optimal in the back test results?
In the SR exercise the highest bliss solution appears to be on the edge
of a bliss cliff and brings up a fear of falling, of doubt and of
failing.
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Thank you for sharing your
process and your method for dealing with the math.
I have several posts from independent testers confirming my solutions so
they are likely correct.
I have a backlog of projects to complete before extending TSP or
generating a solution for 20/15.
Robust solutions tend to associate with longer time constants.
Sticking to some system is generally more profitable than tinkering with
your system and risking missing opportunities. |
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Saturday, June
12, 2010
Has the Theory Down
My first Tribe meeting in Austin starts with a procedural event, that
promotes connection with all in the group. It builds on a platform of
trust. Several members then share personal stories. What becomes evident
is how we all share common backgrounds and each persons experience is a
catalyst to a similar memory and situation in my life. As several people
share about family issues, the same memories appear for me, and I am
left to confront the same personal actions and the subsequent impact on
my behavior.
We proceed to identify and work-thru problems and recast our reactions
to past events thru exercises. It becomes clear that when I work on my
behavior, I can reprogram my actions/reactions and that allows for
everything around me to change. Our intentions have a direct impact on
results. We become the most effective when we are the most vulnerable. I
intend to visit with my wife about some issues, be committed to being
vulnerable and to change my attitude towards past problematic
circumstances. I am optimistic that I can move forward and experience a
different response to the same triggers.
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Thank you for your report.
You might consider sharing some of your own personal feelings about
issues that are currently up for you. |
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Friday, June
11, 2010
Call to Action
Dr. Scott, chief of surgery at [Name] Hospital, was on his way to deliver a lecture when he witnessed a
horrible crash involving 20 vehicles.
The doctor shifted into trauma
mode, worked his way through the mess of metal, and called out, “Who
needs help?”
After 90 minutes of assisting, and the victims were taken
to area hospitals, Dr. Scott commented, “A person with my skills
simply can’t drive by someone who is injured. I refuse to live my life
that way.”
Ed, thank you for calling out and sharing your life's skill set with
those of us in the Austin Tribe last night. Thank you for allowing me to
participate, |
Thank you for your
acknowledgment.
You might consider extending your comments to include your own feelings
about helping others. |
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Friday, June
11, 2010
Dealing with Losses
Ed,
It's Friday at 20:18 and you'd think there would be something better for
me to be doing than sitting here typing about trading.
My disappointment this week is extreme and made worse by the fact that I
had done well and brought the account back a long way.
This really goes to show that if you're going to make money in a sloppy,
high risk way, the gains are nothing more than on loan until you give
them all back again.
I've become stuck in exactly the same sort of trade that's wiped me out
before where I fall in love with a particular direction as the charts
look so obvious that is the next step.
The market then moves against me and instead of using this knowledge of
'the sells not selling' as a great reason to get long with a low risk
entry and a long stop I miss the chance and out of spite dig my heels in
and watch the losses mount. do I enjoy losing money or having reason to
mope around feeling sorry for myself?
At least this time I am in options so there is a maximum downside and a
time limit.
I can't see a way forward from here, not really for the positions. they
might work out ok if the market takes a drop again, but for my trading.
I have no real plan and no real system. I flit from idea to idea not
really making any of them work and stopping with one after one loss.
This week I'd also question if at times my behavior has even been
compulsive and if I am at times 'addicted'.
I need to bear in mind the fact that the only thing that matters is
making money. and not being right. in this context losses are fine and
the smaller and quicker they are taken the better.
I need to reframe them. 'it's just a small controlled loss on the way to
the next win'. 'it's only one trade out of maybe a few thousand I'll
take this year'. 'don't sweat it, do the right thing and move on'.
as I write I am getting more and more angry about a £1 per point dow
futures bet that isn't working out. the market is in a typical yoyo
Friday. i have my stop in above the market and my plan to move it to
even if the cash reaches a certain level. none of these has happened so
i don't know why I'm so worked up. it will either get stopped or hit my
target some time next week, what's the problem? i keep asking myself,
what would a good trader do? the answer is trade the plan. the position
has a stop in place and if it get's hit so be it.
tricking myself in to being relaxed isn't really working. I'm too
emotionally involved now and need a break. I just hate bad Fridays, they
leave you the whole weekend to stew.
I take a bold step and immediately feel relieved. I turn the account
off. I can't see what's going on, I am not tuned in to the tick by tick
moves and I now trust my plan and my stops.
Even if this was making money it wouldn't be worth the stress and strain
on relationships around you.
Am I trading badly because I hate myself? |
Thank you for sharing your
process and for your openness in detailing your situation.
You might consider taking your feelings about <losing trades> to
Tribe.
Perhaps you can come to see their positive intentions.

The Feelings of the Drama of Losing
may be useful
as a cover-up for deeper feelings
about right livelihood.
Clip:
mareenmathis.com/id2.html |
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Friday, June
11, 2010
Progress Report
Dear Ed,
I honor my commitment of reporting to FAQ (see FAQ May 14th Acceptance &
Commitment).
Relationships:
-I spend a great time with my family and with my grandma in particular.
I am more open and spontaneous. I focus more on intimacy and less on
control. I am ready to go to [country] with my father for a quick
holiday. I am happy and determined.
I feel I'm
moving on the right path.
-I go out with a dear friend. She complains about her boyfriend and
expresses her feelings. I refrain from judging and from offering advice.
I simply listen. At the end of the night she thanks me for the nice
evening and she says she's relieved now.
-I get back in touch with an ex schoolmate, after learning that she
almost died due to health issues. This makes me feel a real urge to
contact her, as I realize that after so many years I still care for her,
and a lot. She's happy to hear me and we plan to meet in a couple of
weeks in [City] (she now lives in [City 2]
and I live in [Country] the world is
small after all!). I learn that she recently resigned from a job she
didn't like and is now planning to organize an exhibition in [City] to
promote an emerging ... artist and to sell some of his works. I
happen to know of a specialized fund that invests in art and I contact
them to inform them: this may help her. I reflect on the role of chance
in life.
Personal development:
-Even if I'm already fit, I continue to exercise regularly and with even
more effort. I really find that it helps me on a mental level as well.
-I take time to reflect, I reduce the amount of distraction.
-I order some books from Amazon, including the annotated edition of
"Reminiscences of A Stock Operator" (a book I only have in PDF),
"Speculation as a Fine Art" and "The Battle for Investment Survival".
Speculation being as old as the hills, I find that old books are the
best, since they keep things simple and cut through to the point. I plan
to read them during the summer. Amazon informs me that "The Trading
Tribe Book" cannot be shipped to my address. I will order it directly
from your site.
Fund:
-Fund is up 10% YTD. I gave back some earlier gains and took some
whipsaws during the recent turmoil. I am now mostly in cash (I include
gold and silver in this definition), waiting for new opportunities to
set up. I am patient and I fell that this year could really offer me
some tremendous profit opportunities. However I do not try to
anticipate them. I've been stopped out of my short equities trade just
to see the market move lower without me. I feel disappointment for a
bit, but then I feel happy: stops are here to protect me, volatility and
risk were too high, cash is a better option for now. I feel proud, I'm
honoring my commitment to protect my investors' capital in these
perilous times. My drama with my colleague is not getting better, I
acknowledge my intention of creating this drama. When typing this last
sentence "not" becomes "now" due to a typo: I correct it, but can't help
but think that Fred could be working in the right direction!
I would also like to share some feelings and insights.
I feel great
responsibility and sometimes also anxiety. I am afraid, things are
getting very bad. I think that a third world war is not such a remote
possibility...it could very well happen. What could I do to protect my
family? I'm thinking of buying a home in a remote place like rural
Argentina or moving to Switzerland, where a law dictates that every home
has to have a nuclear shelter. I feel paralyzed and overwhelmed by the
events. I would like to feel protected.
I notice that when I'm losing I'm energetic and dynamic, hard working
and open to new ideas and changes, when I'm winning I feel tired and
depressed. I wonder if the positive intentions of these feelings are to
keep me emotionally balanced, offsetting the opposite feelings normally
arising from winning and losing, and to help me overcome difficult
periods, whilst keeping me cool and with my feet on the ground when
winning, so as to avoid taking excessive risks.
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Thank you for sharing your
process and for following through on your commitment to implement.
You might consider taking your feelings about <anxiety>, <war>,
<depression> and <high energy> to Tribe. |
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Wednesday,
June 9, 2010
Why so High
Ed,
I've heard good things about u & TT.
Why is the book so expensive at $125?
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FAQ does not attempt to feed "why"
questions or other critters from the Zoo of Causality other than to
reply in kind with, "why not."

He Might Be Asking Himself Why
he likes to ask why.
Clip:
http://www.banklawyersblog.com
/.a/6a00d8341c652b53ef010536a8be2e970b-800wi |
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Wednesday,
June 9, 2010
Donchian Back-Test
Dear Mr. Seykota,
Do you have a back-testing. for Richard Donchian
2 week-Rule System, something like...
http://www.seykota.com/tribe/charts/
Donchian/Default.aspx
?
If not, how can I do the back-testing?
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The page you cite contains the rules
for the system and the back-test. |
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Wednesday,
June 9, 2010
Depression
Hi
I am one of the thousands of lurkers who has enjoyed your site for
years.
I am currently in one of the deepest depressions of my life.
I am overwhelmed by the bad economic news bombarding me from the media
and friends.
I pride myself of spotting trends, and all the trends I see indicate
that things will be getting far worse.
How do I get myself out of this funk.
By the way, you have just moved to my favorite city. Is the entire world
moving to Austin?
Thanks in advance.
|
Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider taking your
feelings about <depression> to Tribe.

Depression
Depression may
involve a sense of inadequacy, lack of activity, and feelings of gloom.
Some consider it a dysfunction requiring clinical intervention and
psychoactive drugs; some see it as an adaptive defense mechanism; some
view it as an opportunity to discover its positive intention and use it
to move toward intimacy and right livelihood.
Clip:
http://perkisabeast.com/blog/?p=2023 |
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Monday, June
7, 2010
Intraday Method
Hi, Ed, & greetings from [Country]
I ask my Tribe to support me in sticking to my intraday method. I
undertake to report at the end of each week as to how many trades I fail
to take, how many trades I do take but then fail to manage correctly &
the cost (missed profit) of those errors. The first 2 weeks to last
Friday, my method generates 18 trades, 2 of which I fail to take. I make
a panic exit of another trade just above breakeven when price starts
gyrating - it becomes the best move of the entire sequence. The three
errors cost me €1500, 39% of total profit.
I take the Hot
Seat to address my avoidance of fear whilst trading. I experience
intense forms whilst being fully supported by my Tribe. As I write, I
cannot clearly remember the sequence of events, but I see that I want to
be in control at all times and I REALLY, REALLY do NOT want to
relinquish this control, which seems overwhelmingly terrifying.
My
receiver simply asks if I want to experience this terror now and I say I
do but that I also feel a knot of resistance. My receiver asks if I am
willing to experience this resistance and I say Yes and my tribe yells
its support as I contort and scream a guttural "Nooooooooooo". After
experiencing great resistance and fear I arrive at an achingly
vulnerable point of "No Control" which seems completely natural and is
simply a huge relief. Such an unburdening not to be trying to hold onto
control. I see how I try to control so much of my life & relationship
and what a huge cost in energy this is.
The following day as I commence my trading morning - a 90 minute window
only for trade entry - I start to experience fear as usual, a tingling
feeling in my guts & chest, but I allow it completely and experience it
as an ally to combine with the support I receive from my tribe (knowing
my commitment to report my errors greatly helps to keep me on the
"straight & narrow").
At that Tribe meeting, I tell my Tribe of my strong intention To Live an
Impeccable Life, great challenge though it appears to be. The following
day one tribe member who has attended a more recent workshop, describes
the Big Wave framework to me to help achieve this. In starting to define
"Impeccable", I look up its origin in my Oxford Etymological Dictionary
and discover its original meaning of "without sin". This immediately
strikes a chord as there is a non-Biblical definition of sin that I hear
many years ago from the late, great Nisargadatta Maharaj. When asked
"What is sin ?", he replies "Anything that binds you".
As I think more
about what inspires & attracts me to this stated intention, I realize
that the image I hold of Impeccability somehow includes insulation from
uncomfortable feelings, so I question myself as to whether what I am
really saying is "I want to live a life in control and without bad
feelings". I realize that I have a created a most noble intention to
camouflage my mind's determination to stay in control and "be very
comfortable indeed, thank-you" !
I feel exhilaration at seeing this so clearly and laugh at myself from
deep within.
My journey to true Impeccability - its understanding and realization -
continues.
Thanks, Ed, to you and my Tribe. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
I wonder who gets to determine what are "good" and "bad" feelings. |
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Monday, June
7, 2010
Software
Dear Ed Seykota,
Pleasant greetings!
I am writing from [Country] I had read
about your amazing investment return in Market Wizards! May I know what
software you use to back-test your trading methodology?
Thanks in advance for any help.
PS - I have yet to read through the Trading Tribe website. This I is
will do soon.
|
I use my own Software and also
cross-check with other commercial products. |
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Sunday, June
6, 2010
Wants to Attend a Workshop
Hi there Ed,
I am a 25 y.o. [Nationality] who recently joined the [City] Trading Tribe.
I have gained many insights and have improved many aspects of my life
both inside and outside of financial markets since discovering TTP.
I have also
seen other people take situations similar to ones I have been in, to the
hot seat and move beyond them in weeks, where I previously floundered.
TTP is abstract in description but practical in nature which is why it
works, well done and thank you for sharing it with me.
My intention
is to attend a workshop of yours and take TTP back to [Country] with me and start a Tribe. If you
have any workshops coming up and are accepting attendees, I would love
to attend! |
Thank you for sharing your process.
I schedule Workshops when I perceive a demand. I am considering
presenting one in Austin, TX. |
|
Sunday, June
6, 2010
Austin Tribe Report:
In Touch
with Feelings
I attend the first of 10 Tribe meetings in Austin. We each work on our
intentions for our project during our participation in this series. We
then do a series of exercises to bring up feelings. One exercise I
believe designed to bring up feeling of domination and being dominated.
I am surprised at how little I feel in this exercise since I grew up
with a very dominating and controlling father. I credit the work I have
done in many previous Tribe sessions with this.
For one Tribe
member this brought up feelings of his mother verbally and physically
attacking him in the car after football practice when he was a teenager.
He just got off football practice and sat in the car with his mother
when he began scratching an itch in his groin area. His mother ask him
what he is doing and he replied his balls itch. His mother went off on
him hitting and screaming at him to never talk to her like that again.
We role play
this. I am the mother. I ask what he is doing and he says my balls itch
and I play his mother hitting and yelling at him. We stop and ask if
that is an accurate role play and he responds that she was much more
explosive. I have concerns about hitting him too hard on his nose and
injuring him but we try again. This time I let go more and seem to get
it more accurate with him covering up trying to protect himself. We come
up with different resources on how he could handle the situation and
then try them out with more role plays so he can try them on and see if
they work for him. I am amazed at the change in me as he tries on his
new resources. Where it is easy at first to attack him, with the new
resources he uses I find my will and determination to forcefully get my
point across as his mother rapidly diminishing as if all the energy just
got sucked out of the space. When he ask me what I am doing, am I trying
to hurt him and don't you want me to feel good about myself, I stop the
attack and actually start to look at myself to see just what I am doing
and why.
Amazing how
this works. Later Ed works with another member about issues he has with
his dad. We check out and I go home.
Interesting thing happened Friday night. I did not feel well and went to
bed early with a stomach ache. I get up Saturday and do not feel well
all day. I thought I had a stomach or intestinal flue. Saturday night I
finally heed my wife's pleadings and go to the hospital where they
diagnose me with bad appendicitis. Sunday the surgeon removed the
inflamed appendix and I am feeling better now. I find this quite odd as
I am usually healthy and do not have stomach problems.
|
Thank you for sharing your process
and for listening to your body and to your wife's suggestions. |
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Sunday, June
6, 2010
Good Feelings and Rebels
Hello All,
Thank you for being on my support team.
A lot of whipsaw this month for me. On two days back to back I recall
not following my system. I get careless with some stops and refuse to
accept a loss. Then the next day my unbalanced attitude carries over and
I do it again. I notice feelings of <messing up> when recalling this and
enjoy them.
About a week prior to this I have my biggest day and week ever. I recall
a statement by a friend with many, many years of experience in the
market, “It takes a few weeks to recover from a big win.” I think this
captures my experience. I notice I become very attached to doing well
and I fight accepting a loss. During this period I notice I “rebel”
against my feelings. I become attached to “feeling good” and I don’t
want to hear otherwise. I clearly recall noticing feelings coming up
that offer me warning but I rebel against them because that interfere
with me “feeling good.” I notice a judgment here about feelings, the
ones that make me “feel good” and otherwise. I am happy that I’m aware
of my feelings to notice I rebel against them. And during this period of
whipsaw I’m happy I’m sticking with my commitment to deliberate
practice. I’m not medicating with food. I’m remaining productive. After
one particularly bad day I’m able to let that day go and attend my
daughters recital that night, relaxed and grateful to see her perform.
I notice a perspective shift about being around people that are rather
emotional in the market. I recall in the past my reaction to such
emotionalism was irritation and anger because it could throw me out of
balance. I think that is me resisting my own feelings that come up
triggered by their emotionalism. Such as <I could miss out>, <what if
they’re right>. I now notice these feelings and the emotional people I
work with become a part of my System.
Overall I feel I’m doing a good job on noticing my feelings, seeing them
on my instrument control panel. I notice resistance and push into it.
My draw down is 7%. A question comes to mind about my reaction to this
experience, do I resist where I am or do I resist the feeling of where I
am. It’s the feelings. Plain and simple. I commit to feeling these
feelings fully and adding them to my instrument panel.
I note that in my commitment I am to report within 3 days of the new
month and I note this is the 6th. This is okay with me. I have been out
of town on vacation.
Thank you for your support.
|
Thank you for sharing your process
and your insights. |
|
Sunday, June
6, 2010
The Long and Short of It
Hi Ed,
I have often heard you deride short term trading as a way of not facing
your emotions. My feeling is that, in some ways, short term trading
makes you feel your feelings quicker than long term trading.
I put this to you - How do you counter the argument that actually long
term trend following allows you to avoid your feelings? Since there is
such a large gap between actions (ie taking losses and profits, riding a
position etc), there is more time to stay within your comfort zone and
not have to face the hard realities of taking losses etc.
I would be interested in your thoughts.
Best Regards |
Short term trading can indeed excite
many feelings - that can serve to mask and distract you from deeper
feelings about right livelihood.
You might consider taking your
feelings about <argument> to Tribe.

Arguing
can be a contest
to measure control.
Clip:
http://theosophical.files.wordpress.com/
2009/05/argument_businessfistfight4.jpg |
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Saturday, June
5, 2010
Book in Process
Ed Sensei,
Could you
please give us an update on how your book is progressing?
Thanks |
I expect completion by September 23,
2010 - at which point it goes to the printer. |
|
Saturday, June
5, 2010
Austin Tribe Report:
From
Control to Intimacy
Dear Ed,
My main take away from my session #1 in the Austin Tribe last week was
about the value of the Intimacy-Centric model. This is extremely
valuable not only for trading but for all aspects of a person’s life and
relationships.
Several
exercises really drove home the point for me. I left the session with a
conscious decision and promise to myself that I would always try to
practice the Intimacy-Centric model. In one week, people close to me
have seen the difference and have commented about it. I don’t know how,
but it has somehow placed me on the path to becoming a better trader.
I learned a lot more from session #1, but I want to keep this entry
short to emphasize what is for me the single most important learning
point.
TTP is very useful and powerful. Thank you very much Ed and thanks also
to my fellow Tribe members. |
Thank you for your report. |
|
Saturday, June
5, 2010
You Have To Do It
Hello Mr. Ed
I thought you might find views in this article interesting.
...
A peaceful life is essentially a simple one and hence effortless.
The sheer simplicity of peaceful life is a magnet that attracts, for
deep within we identify with it. To be simple is not something
external; we have to become simple and natural from within, be open
to our own ‘internal self’, and perform actions knowing where they
are leading to. One has to consciously bring about this change, as
[Name] says, “To change externally is just a cosmetic change, it is
feeding the intellect, the real change is internal.”
|
Thank you for the passage. I
wonder who is in charge of dictating what "we have to" do and what "one
has to" do.

Mr. Richard Potato
really likes to tell people
what they "should" do.
When he's not around they call him
Dick 'Tater
Clip:
http://www.complete80s.com/media/
mr-potato-head.gif |
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Friday, May
21, 2010
More Tales
of the Purple Whisk
See:
Teacher Saturday May
15th.
Dear Ed,
Thank you for posting my work on your FAQ.
Here's Part 2:
One day, the Master returned to see the Apprentice. He asked, "How did
you go with your trading? Were you able to save yourself from The
Crash?"
The Apprentice said, "I lost all my money in The Crash, I feel so
worthless."
Master asked him, "What was my first advice given to you?"
The Apprentice answered, "...Do nothing, See nothing, Feel nothing?"
Master asked, "Then, what did you do?"
Apprentice said, "I over-traded when I shouldn't."
Master, "And then?"
Apprentice, "I traded market noises and false moves."
Master, "What was your feeling when you were making those mistakes?"
Apprentice, "I was greedy and I was fearful."
Master, "Very well. You already have all the answers."
Inexperienced traders tend to over-trade. The same thing happen to those
who called themselves 'Investors' - taking too many investment
opportunities too often. Over-trading will not guarantee profits, on the
other hand, exposing more risks to the trader/investor. Excellent
opportunity to profit is a scarce resource. Unless you have a PROVEN
high frequency trading strategy (one like Goldman Sachs'), making more
trades than you normally need to, is a PROVEN way to become bankrupt.
Inexperienced traders/investors usually focus on market noises and
listen to too much useless tips and rumors. They see everything as an
opportunity to make them RICH INSTANTLY. Again, this is what makes him
over-trade.
Inexperienced traders/investors usually become too emotional with their
positions, or their MONEY. They could not control their emotions when
they need to, they became greedy at market tops and fearful at market
lows. They are conquered by negative emotions that are ineffective for
making CONSISTENT profits from the market.
Once again, the Apprentice asked his Master, "How do I become the best
trader on earth?"
The Master said, "Trade no markets. BECOME THE MARKET."
After that, the Master left the Apprentice and never go back to see him
again.
Many years after, the Apprentice is not an apprentice anymore. He became
a Master of Trading himself.
|
Thank you for the allegory.
I wonder who gets to say who is "the
best" trader on earth. |
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Friday, June
4, 2010
Austin Tribe Update: More Peaceful
Hello Ed,
I want to tell you what an honor and privilege it is to be a part of the
Austin Trading Tribe. It means a lot to me. I was quite nervous when I
went to the first meeting because I didn't know what to expect. However,
the Tribe meetings are already having a positive effect on my life. I
realize that I am a much calmer person now. For example, I usually
become irritated if someone cuts me off in traffic on the freeway. Now I
notice that I am hardly agitated.
I am beginning
to express my appreciation to those around me and who I deal with on a
regular basis. For instance, I express my gratitude to my friends even
more and to the nice people I do business with such as at the gas
station, the grocery store and the bookstore. I have also noticed a
general increase in my focus on matters. I am now able to get more done,
especially on getting my trading system up and running. I am also able
to eliminate more distractions.
I realize that I have just started the Trading Tribe journey and still
have issues and k-nots to work on. Nevertheless, it is great to know
that I have my friends in the Tribe who will help me with my process and
that I will gladly support them as well. I would like to thank you for
your guidance, Ed. I also want to express my gratitude to my fellow
Tribe members and to those who shared their process.
I look forward to seeing all of you at the next tribe meeting . |
Thank you for sharing your
process. |
|
Friday, June
4, 2010
Austin Tribe Report: Keeping Agreements
Dear Ed,
Here is my report for the Tribe meeting.
I am late to the Austin Tribe meeting and Ed tells me that I need to
acknowledge my intent to be late. I notice lots of feelings come up and
I feel them. I say, “I acknowledge my intention to be late.”
During the
meeting we go through exercises and I notice more feelings that come up,
I am aware that the feelings are strong and I don’t like them. I realize
I have judgments about the feelings and I have K-nots.
One of the
Tribe members takes the hot seat and goes through a process where he and
his mother are in a control-centric process. His mother is in control
and then he becomes in control. Ed points out that they are both
remaining in a control-centric process. We continue the process and the
tribe member on the hot seat finds new resources and applies them and
enters into an intimacy-based relationship with his mother. This is a
big AHA for me as I realize that my process with my father and mother is
still control-centric and is not intimacy-centric. The difference is
that I’m now the one in control. All the while I think I am moving
toward having a more intimacy-based relationship with my parents when
actually I’m just continuing the control-based relationship, and I’m now
the one in control.
During the preliminary set of exercises at the meeting, I experience
strong feelings of guilt when controlling another, and anger at being
controlled.
As I drive home from the meeting. I think about the Tribe member that
sees me pulling up in my car to Ed’s house and graciously tells me where
to park. He is helpful. He is courteous. He is nice. He explains to me
in detail the parking situation and offers a suggestion of where I can
park. I thank him, and I park in the place where he suggests.
I continue driving home and think, “Oh, great. I make someone else also
late to the meeting. He would be at the meeting on time if he had not
stopped to provide me with a warm greeting and helpful information.” I
feel guilty. And I acknowledge that I must be getting everything I want.
I get to be in control and feel guilty. And I think this sucks, and I am
thankful for the Tribe for helping me become more aware of my actions,
of my intentions, and of my feelings.
Now I am more aware. I return home and tell my wife about the
experience.
During Tribe, when talking with Ed I notice that I am not clear on what
I want to accomplish. I am confused, and I am passing on my confusion. I
realize that I have to get clear on what I want. I think about this and
am becoming clearer and clearer. Ed says that it has to be fun and I
have to get something out of it.
At home, I begin rewriting what it is I want to accomplish, and I begin
by stating clearly how I benefit from completing this project. I
continue to write, rewrite, and think about what I really want. I notice
that what I want to accomplish becomes increasingly clearer, with much
less verbiage. I notice that when I am confused about what it is I want
to accomplish, I cannot express what I want to accomplish clearly and
concisely.
I am aware now that I have a lot of K-nots, and that I am repeating
patterns using control-centric relationships.
Today I have an agreement with my family to leave the house at 11:30
a.m. to go on a short trip. It is 11:32 a.m. and I am not in the van. I
stop and say, “I acknowledge my intention to be late.” My wife hears me,
and she is not in the van either, and she says, “I acknowledge my
intention to be late.”
I have an agreement with my son that bath time ends at 8:45 p.m. I
notice that there is wiggly room on the definition of what constitutes
the bath time ending. We agree that the end of bath time means that the
plug comes out from the drain and bodies come out of the tub. We also
have an agreement that I read to him until 9:00 p.m. It is 8:45 and the
plug comes out of the drain and bodies come out of the tub. I read to my
son until 9:00, not 8:57, not 9:02. My son and I both honor our
agreement. I notice how things go smoothly when we both honor our
agreements.
With the Tribe’s help, I am more aware of my results and my intentions.
Results equal intentions, so I look at my results and know what my
intentions really are. I recognize that I have K-nots and entry points
for TTP. My intention is to use TTP, go to Tribe, feel all my feelings,
find the positive intentions of my feelings, turn my adversaries into
allies, and change my control-centric relationships to intimacy-centric
relationships. I know that my results reveal my intentions and
willingness. |
Thank you for sharing your
process and for your insights.

Clocks are Essential
to many kinds of agreements
Clip:
http://proactivefitnessgroup.files.wordpress.com
/2009/07/clock-2.jpg
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Wednesday,
June 2, 2010
Melbourne Tribe
Dear Ed,
I submit my
information for a new Tribe.
|

Welcome
Melbourne
Australia |
|
Wednesday,
June 2, 2010
Getting Out of Debt
Dear Ed
I thank you for your previous comments.
I discuss your comments with my wife.
I accept the authority of my budget and no more drama.
My wife is keen for us to stay in budget and get rid of our debt.
I am lucky to have her as a wife, I give her the budget figures, she
takes the lead and responsibility for the daily shopping. She is
fantastic at sticking to the budget and economizing. I am good at
spending, I pay the bills and fixed expenses and review the tracking
against budget.
I support her and she supports me.
Week 1
I waste only $10, a big improvement on the past.
We unexpectedly receive a car repair bill for a $880, saving $20 seems
pointless in the face of such adversity, none the less, we persist with
the budget.
Somehow we cope with it and manage to absorb it without borrowing more.
Week 2
I have not overspent a cent, I stay away from the shops to avoid
spending.
We are within budget.
Week 3
I have some temptations but walk away, I’m beginning to enjoy not
spending.
We are within budget.
We get a call out the blue, a buyer wants to buy a very illiquid asset
of ours which I should never have bought in the first place.
We get an excellent price considering what has occurred in the last 2
years.
This sale will remove a large chunk of our debt which will in turn
further support us in reducing our debt.
I don’t know whether it’s co-incidence, prayer or TTP, but I accept my
feelings, commit to sticking to the budget and all of a sudden it’s a
lot easier.
I am working on trying to be supportive, accepting and receiving of the
feelings of others.
I am working on trying to share my feelings instead of trying to command
and control.
Thank you for your support.
|
Thank you for sharing your
process and for having the courage to follow through and get results. |
|
Wednesday,
June 2, 2010
Treasury Indicators


Hello Sir.
It is an honor for me to even write to you.
I came across your name while looking at the Michael Covel's influences
for his book the complete Turtle Trader.
I would highly appreciate if you could just have a look at my work in
the field of trading and investing. you will not be disappointed.
Enclosed in this email is a copy of the US 2 Yr Treasury Chart and
another chart of my proprietary indicator for the same. in the last 12
years we have only 5 times that the indicator has come to the watermark
800 level, from where we anticipate a trend. the time line on the
indicator chart are replicated on the price chart, the results are
phenomenal. we've been able to catch the most important trends in the US
2 Yr Treasury market and ride it. not mentioning the predictive value of
this indicator on the treasury prices, interest rates, the economy and
its effects on the stock markets.
We are once again at a critical level in terms of the US 2 Yr Treasury.
Your reading this email and your specific views with regards to its
collaborative use, would be highly appreciated. |
Thank you for your note.
I wonder if you can formulate your work as a system and then back-test
it to determine your MAR. |
Tuesday, June 1, 2010 9:13 PM
Austin Tribe
Update:
From Control to
Intimacy with Mom
Dear Ed,
We start our Tribe meeting by doing Sender / Receiver work and rotate so
everyone interacts with each other.
The Sender
first asks “What are you thinking?” and the Receiver replies… then, we
switch roles. I notice as I receive the thoughts from the Sender that my
mind tends to think along the same lines. If he is thinking about
allergies then my mind thinks about my own allergies and so forth. I
notice my mind thinks a multitude of thoughts all of the time not only
as I receive the thoughts of the Sender but on its own.
We practice
the same exercise except the question is “What are you feeling?”…I
notice it is harder for me to feel than to think. I wonder if the
thinking is just medicating the feelings. We do some other exercises. I
get on the floor on my hands / knees and my partner pushes down firmly
on my shoulders as I resist. He is to say “I own you!” and I am to reply
“Get off my back!” I notice a lot of feelings about my controlling
parents…in particular my mother. We switch and I push down on my
partner’s shoulders and say “I own you” and he replies “Get off my
back”.
I notice the
feeling of being “controlling” myself. I have feelings that take me to
when I was younger and my relationship with my ex-wife. I see that those
who are “abused” or “controlled” can easily assume the role of the
“abuser” or “controller”…perhaps swallowing the rock (behavioral model)
predisposes or creates the innate ability to play both roles.
The next
exercise my partner stands with arms folded in a stern, ominous,
growling posture while I am on my knees. He is to say “NO!” and I
respond “Please!” with my arms outstretched and palms up…basically
begging. I notice I smile and laugh inside at first in this exercise as
I say “Please!” but then something happens. I feel this is my position
with my parents all of my life. Inside as I say “Please!” I notice this
deep sadness as I hear “No!” over and over. I see the facial expressions
of my partner and it reminds me of my father. At one point I feel the
twinge of pain inside and feel tears in my eyes…it all happened like
snapping your fingers. We reverse roles and I notice as I am saying
“No!” that I am very capable of doing the same with my children. Again,
I can easily slip into the mirror image of the role I am playing. The
last exercise we stand across from each other and my partner says “I
want you” and I reply “get lost”.
I notice
feelings from relationships that have played out this drama repeatedly.
The dominant feeling I feel is rejection…rejection in the form of
control, emotional abuse and just pure domination. Ed asks if anyone has
anything that surfaces and I discuss this feeling I have while saying
“please” and my partner saying “no”. I feel this rejection from my
parents.
Ed asks me
some questions and I am not sure exactly how things developed but then I
recall when I am 14-15 and my mother picks me up from football practice.
I am 14-15 and I am beginning to become more self confident. I excel in
athletics and football in particular. I have a girlfriend and have had
several by that time. My mother warns me all the time about “girls.”
I
see now she uses me to meet her emotional needs with my father absent at
work all the time. I feel full of testosterone and becoming at man at
that particular moment in my life. I get into the car and am sweaty and
grungy after football practice. It has been exceptionally hot during
these practices and I notice itching in my groin area and I scratch.
There is certainly nothing worse than a wet jock to make things itchy. I
hear guys talk in the locker room about “jock itch”, etc…but really
didn’t understand any of that completely. I hear guys talking about
their “balls” this or that so I knew some “locker room” talk. So, I
scratch myself in the car on the way home and my mother asks me “what
are you doing?” and I reply…”my balls itch!” Literally, in the same
moment of NOW I receive a backhand that connected in my nose/mouth area.
My mother is very athletic and she is 40 at the time.
I feel like I
have just been hit by a train or been in a car accident. I put my hands
up and try to cover my face as she continues wailing on me. No
warning…just violent retaliation. I hear her saying “don’t you ever
speak to me like that” over and over. I have to give her credit…she beat
the hell out of me. I don’t remember any resolution or discussion of
that incident later. Her point from my perspective now is we do not talk
about male anatomy…no balls, no penis…that is a dirty subject, in fact,
sexuality is a dirty subject. The process takes me back to that feeling
of being abused and dominated by my mother. We role play the incident
several times and I get a taste of reliving that previous moment of NOW.
Several
suggestions were tried that brought me into the moment with a response.
I am able to respond and tell her I need her support and love and that
what she is doing is hurting me. I ask her how she feels and as she
connects with her feelings the anger inside begins to melt. Another
strategy is to thank her for sharing how she feels even when her
emotions are chaotic and also to continue to ask her to share more. I
write the first part of this a day or so after and I come back to it now
it is about 5 days. Strange thing happens…over the weekend I notice the
inside of my groin itching and when I look it is chaffed and red.
I have had no
irritation in this area in years and now it is red and itchy at the
exact same place as when I am 14-15. Ed warns us something like this
could happen. I definitely need “dryer balls”. Thanks Ed. I go to lunch
at my mother’s house with my son over the weekend and ask her to share
about her life…when she is a little girl. She is turning 70 in the next
few days. I am curious about the emotional pattern from this incident
and where it derives. She tells of how hard life is when she is very
young and her family has little. I ask about her mother. My grandmother
was one of 3 girls…the middle girl. She was always an extremely
efficient and hard worker. There was always an edge of anxiety she
carries…anger under the surface. She has a fiery temper.
I find out
from my mother her family took advantage of her a lot from a very young
age…she was responsible for everything. Her father made her plow fields
and expected her basically to be the “boy” of the family. Her sisters
did not get the same treatment. I sense there is a lot of bitterness and
pain bound up. She describes how her mother raises her and she is
subjected to much more abuse than I probably. I listen to her feelings
about this. She comments at the difference in how I raise my children
vs. how she raised me and my sisters. She says she just raised me how
she was raised…but, now after watching her grandchildren she thinks she
would do things differently.
I notice tears
in her eyes and her voice quivers. She has a hard time making amends,
saying she is wrong but as I practice the intimacy-centric model I
receive this from her without so many words. She calls me the next
morning and very refreshingly says how much she thoroughly enjoyed us
just talking. |
Thank you for sharing your
process and for having the courage to follow through and get results.

You Can Actually Turn It Around
by receiving your mom.
Clip:
http://images.craveonline.com/
article_imgs/Image/mother-grown-son.jpg
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Tuesday, June
1, 2010
Receiving His Wife
Ed,
Saturdays my
ex-wife brings the children to me. I expect her at noon. She does not
arrive. I call my daughter several times and ask what happens. My wife
is still not at home. At the end she appears at 3 PM. I am very angry. I
drive with the children to a party and have a great time with them.
On Tuesday I call my wife and tell her that she does not keep our
agreements, that I don't like to be kept hostage and uninformed. I tell
her that I expect a clear agreement, and that we both keep it. As the
talk goes, I feel more relaxed and how my anger disappears. I comment it
to my ex-wife. She mentions “I know why you don't feel angry anymore”. I
am intrigued. She says “I was listening to your feelings and trying to
understand you”. In fact, she was receiving me. At the end we have a
very friendly conversation, I ask her how she is doing and she tells me
that she needs more free time. I agree to take the children to me
several days in the week.
Receiving works also on the phone… |
Thank you for sharing your
process.

Sometimes You Can Please Your Wife
more with your ears
than with your mouth.
Clip:
http://www.core.org.cn/OcwWeb/Foreign-
Languages-and-Literatures/21F-232Spring-
2007/CourseHome/index.htm |
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Tuesday, June
1, 2010
Stop, I say
Hi Ed,
I wonder if you could share some of your knowledge on stop loss, how to
place them, and how and when to move the stop loss, to protect your
profits.
Thank you very much
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FAQ does not recommend
specific system parameters. (See Ground Rules.)
You might consider
determining which stop placement policies are best for you through
back-testing. |
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Tuesday, June
1, 2010
TSP and Rebate
Hello Mr. Seykota,
I am a student of Business Administration from [City] and
found your site more accidentally but I am glad that I found it.
I am going to join a meeting of the Tribe in [City] and I am confident that it will have a positive impact
on my whole life not only on my
trading.
Thank you so far for sharing your positive experiences with us!
Is there a rebate for students or a general rebate for tribe members on
the book?
Are new lectures for the TSP (Trading System Project) planned?
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I plan to include more on TSP
in my upcoming book.
The price of The Trading Tribe is the same for everyone, all over the
world. |
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Tuesday, June
1, 2010
Shipping
Magnets
Dear Ed,
I saw this and
thought of you...

Clip:
http://i.imgur.com/VZNFM.jpg
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If you ship magnets in an
envelope, they tend to hang up in the postal sorting machinery.
If you want them to get through, you might consider encasing them in a
steel box. |
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Tuesday, June
1, 2010
Thanks
Hi Ed,
Many thanks
for the $2 and trading guide gift. I will put in in front of my desk to
remind myself.. Appreciate a helping hand from one of the market wizard.
I will send u my daily comment and hope u can guide me along.
Many thanks |
You are welcome. |
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Tuesday, June
1, 2010
Austin Tribe Report - Noticing Similarities
I attend the tribe meeting in Austin.
During an exercise to identify authority issues, no issues surface for
me. During an exercise to identify rejection issues, I recall issues
with my ex, but the feeling is mild, a gentle reminder.
In reviewing one tribe member's family issues, I see the situation is
very similar to my relative's, and the family he married into. The
issues are quite similar to ones existing around his wife and
mother-in-law.
As we review another member's relationship to his father, I see my
behavior has been similar to his father's in resisting intimacy.
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OK. |
Back to the Future
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