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Sunday,
September 20, 2009
Abandonment
Hi Ed !
A Tribe member calls this week, saying he needs a Tribe meeting. He lost
his job. I agree and we meet for a hardball session. An hour and a half
passes. We progress. Then he says "I feel guilty about not being home
with my wife," and wants to end the session. We do.
For the next three days, up to now, I feel pain and heartache. Prior to
the meeting I feel clear. I feel the effects of his opening up, and the
effects of incomplete process.
Since intentions = results, I guess I intend to feel the effects of not
completing a process.
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Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider taking your
feelings about <abandonment> to Tribe.

One Positive Intention of Abandonment
is to remind you to check
the intentions of the other party
to stay in the relationship.
Clip:
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Saturday,
September 19, 2009
Severing
Fingers
Dear Ed,
I stopped by a friend's house on Sunday. Their on-site rental property
is being renovated. They were showing me the renovation work when I saw
their carpenter severe two fingers with a table saw. I saw it from an
unusual vantage point and my friends didn't see it. I knew the man
needed help even before he started screaming. I told my friends "he
needs help" and then the injured man started screaming.
My friend went
to his aid quickly, the wife went to the phone to call 911. I saw the
fingers dangling and the blood spilling. My friend wrapped the hand in a
towel and drove the carpenter to the emergency room.
Aside from the shock and horror, I am experiencing what the Tribe might
call a cause-and-effect related vertigo.
I can't figure
out what my part in this is. I can't figure out what is the positive
intention of my feelings. I can't figure out what is the positive intent
for the injured man. I think there is probably a very simple physical
explanation for what happened. Maybe his hands were sweaty and the wood
slipped and his hand moved into the saw.
I felt some strange misplaced sense of responsibility for witnessing
this. As if I was somehow a cause of the accident, maybe my presence
caused a tiny wrinkle in the gravity field surrounding the saw and
caused the wood to slip? Or maybe I am being too self absorbed. Maybe my
part was simply to be there a little early and mobilize my friend before
the carpenter started screaming. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider taking your
feelings about this incident to Tribe.

Accidents
are intentional incidents
for which no one wants
to take responsibility.
When everyone stays in the now
and takes responsibility for everything
accidents disappear.
Clip:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_a_1BQ8Kh2P8/
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Saturday,
September 19, 2009
Longing
Hi Ed
I am reading your recent post to FAQ dated 9/17/09 Catharsis. You
discuss loneliness and I reflect on myself. I am making new friends in a
new area I moved to a year ago. I talk to anyone. I feel I am open,
intelligent and caring. I am interested in many topics.
At night I feel the desire for a close intimate relationship. So how do
I make the distinction between if I am medicating my loneliness or just
really want to be with the person I feel I love, have a deep connection
with, and knows me well but who is frequently unavailable.
I understand
the nature of their business and personality makes them unavailable. I
still long - pine for this person.
I don't like to "sleep around" and find that scene superficial. I am
noticing the more mature I become the more selective I am in companions.
"Love (have sex with) the one you're with" doesn't work for me. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
Pine (v) To grieve or mourn or long
for.
You might consider the positive
intention of <pining>.

Pining
can be an indication to connect
and / or medication
for deeper feelings about Right Livelihood.
Clip:
http://witsaboutme.files.wordpress.com/
2009/04/pining-woman.png?w=313&h=342
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Thursday,
September 17, 2009
Catharsis
Dear Ed,
I receive an email from the [City] Tribe leader on 08Sep09 asking me how
I am feeling and what is happening on my front. I reply to email stating
my recurring feelings of Depression, Frustration, Despair and Confusion.
The Tribe leader replies and invites me to attend as a guest at their
Tribe meeting on 16Sept09.
I am confused and depressed and do not want to meet anyone as I have
been avoiding calling or meeting my friends since past 3-4 months. The
day to attend the Tribe arrives and I think in the morning that I’ll
[text] the Tribe leader and skip the meeting, it is noon and I have
still not sent the [text] of me not attending the Tribe meeting. Post
noon I receive an email from the Tribe leader asking confirmation of my
attendance and even if I chose not to attend the meeting to call the
leader and inform him.
Reluctantly, I call the Tribe leader and got irritated by him asking me
who is it on the call. I think least one can do is save the person’s #
whom you email and ask to call. I don’t know what came over me I
instantly said that I am attending the meeting while all these days I
was thinking how to avoid not going to the meeting.
Excited and thrilled I reach the venue where the Tribe meeting is held.
I ask questions on how to feel the feelings and the Tribe members
explain to me with examples, but I am still confused as to how to feel
the feelings. The Tribe leader asks me to witness a hot seat and later
if willing take the hot seat.
- The Tribe meeting starts with the drumming session. I also participate
in the drumming session at times I feel I am not in sync with the
drumming of the Tribe members and at times I am in sync, I try to get in
sync with the rhythm sometimes my drumming is with the rhythm and
sometimes its not. The drumming session end after 20-25 minutes.
- Check in starts after the drumming session. Members state what they
are feeling and so do I.
- Then follows the "atta boy" round and ends when all the members are
done.
- Then follows the issues round and ends when all the members are done.
- Following the issues round one member takes the hot seat.
- HOT SEAT 1:
The person on
the hot seat starts with an issue he thinks and goes on and on
explaining what the issue is and his concerns. Relentless validation and
prompting by the members the hot seat gets into forms. The forms get
intense and then more intense. The person on the hot seat is rubbing his
head and his hand and rolls his palm over his chest and stomach he gets
intense and utters his need to seeks thrills, seek danger, dangerous
thrills, he abuses himself verbally for following the middle path and
not paying any attention to his thrill seeking personality, he says he
do not care anything and just want to have dangerous thrills. The
members encourage him to show us more of the forms and we encourage the
hot seat to tell more about the danger seeking and thrill seeking needs,
the hot seat gets hot his body is stiff and he stretches his body as if
lying on an incline chair. His body is firm and he says he is feelings
like a corpse, chills running through though his spine, chest and
stomach. The hot seat says he seeks dangers and dangerous thrills and
burst into tears, the forms continue and after some more time the hot
seat is done with the session and informs the members.
- Post the hot seat members do the check-out and provide their feedback.
The member’s points to the person on the hot seat that his issue is not
what actually is what he thinks but different. The hot seat is pointed
out his feelings to seek danger and dangerous thrills. The hot seat
realizes that he started with an issue and in the hot seat his inner
urges and needs to seek dangerous thrills is unraveled. The hot seat
acknowledges his new awareness post the hot seat and thanks the members.
- HOT SEAT 1 ends with the Check-Out.
- HOT SEAT 2:
I am on the
hot seat, the process manager ask me what I am feeling I say I am
feeling sad and then go story telling saying what is making me sad. I
say I have failed myself. I say I have renege my promise to myself of
being into the situation I am. I start asking for forgiveness I start
asking forgiveness from my father, I plead my father to forgive me and
let me go and not punish me, I am crying and begging for forgiveness, I
sob softly and then burst into loud cries for forgiveness. I am hiding
my head in my arms deep into my chest and wave my palms asking not to
hit me and keep pleading to stop the punishment. I start stomping the
floor with both my foot simultaneously and then one after another I feel
a cold burning sensation which is coming from being hit on my legs, I
reach out to god and ask him to end this pain. I continue to plead my
father and sob softly, again I start crying loudly and pleading to be
forgiven. I swear on god and my mother that I will not repeat whatever I
have done and plead to be forgiven. I then sob softly and my cries
soften I wipe tears and continue to say that I’ll not do it again.
Tribe members
ask me what I am feeling I say my chest is feeling cold and I am feeling
light. (I think that I am feeling cold in my chest because of tears that
has trickled and sweating because me holding my head and arms being
pressed hard to be chest). I am done wiping my tears and feeling light,
very light. Without much of prompting I start smiling start throwing my
shoulder in the air and am playful. This ends again with me crying and
asking for forgiveness I feel the pain in the body and my the thrashing
on my legs and me stomping my feet to protect my self from the thrashing
on my legs. I plead my father to stop beating me and offer to trade the
beating with being in the hen position. I sob and wipe my tears and
promise my father I will not repeat the mistakes.
- I am calming down; I rearrange my self on the chair. I start smiling
and get into a playful mood, I say I am getting bored and I want to do
something I am getting restless and want to play. I start rolling the
chair round and round with my legs and says look mother how am I
swinging in the chair, I keep asking my mom to see me swinging on the
chair round, I am laughing and happy playing. All of a sudden I stop
rolling my chair and start saying, I was only playing, I was not doing
anything papa, papa I was just playing nothing else, I start feeling
being hit and I start crying and covering my head with my forearms and
snuggle my head in my chest. I am crying out loud and pleading for
forgiveness but the punishment is not stopping and I am jumping on the
chair to protect my self from the thrashing. I stomp my feet to avoid
the thrashing, I continue to swear on god and my mother that I will not
repeat the mistake, I hear my father saying that always say that I will
not repeat and keep doing the same thing or different things to get
punished. I beg my father to spare me. I even cry out to my mom to tell
my father to stop the thrashing, I see my mother standing herself
sobbing for me being thrashed. I am crying and continue pleading for
forgiveness. I sob softly and wipe my tears and say I will not repeat I
won’t do it again.
- I am calm and feeling light my body is feeling very light and I feel
getting restless I tap my feet to floor and say I want to do something I
am getting bored sitting. I get restless and move the chair to my right
and to my left. I smile and run my fingers in my hair vigorously
rearranging my hair, I set my hair with my fingers and get up from the
chair and straighten my dress I see my self checking my self as if in
the mirror turning sides and checking again. I sit back in the chair and
relax and tilt my head back I feel some pain in my head on my left side
of my head I feel the pain going and coming back and subsiding. Tribe
members prompt me to feel the pain, and ask me to intensify it. I snap
at the process manager and say “stop saying that again and again”. I am
asked to say what I said and I say “I don’t like being told the same
thing repeatedly”. I am prompted more but I do not pay any heed, I am
sitting comfortably in the chair, I am calm.
- I tell the Tribe members that I think I am done. I open my eyes and
find my self not facing the Tribe members and I find my self sitting
bending on the chair. I stand up and check each and every member
intensely, I check the place and utter where am I. I look into every
nook and corner each and every object for couple of minuets I am feel
disoriented. I think my Hot Seat is over.
- Checkout begins and Tribe members thank me and provide their feed
back.
I feel disoriented throughout the journey back home.
Thanking [Name] Trading Tribe Members and ED.
PS: Reference to prior post on Wednesday, January 28, 2009 title “Random
Acts of Violence” |
Thank you for sharing your
process.
Tribe Meetings provide a supportive environment for abreaction
(catharsis) of tension.
If the tension returns, you may find temptation to use Tribe Meetings
medicinally, as a way to make the feelings go away.
You might consider engaging the Rocks Process, in which you learn to
honor and respond to your feelings with pro-active strategies.

Loneliness
You can medicate the feeling
with drugs, alcohol, whining
and even with abreaction therapy.
You can pro-activate the feeling
by getting off your butt
and making some friends.
Clip:
http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/
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Wednesday,
September 16, 2009
Trading
System Frequency Response Study
Dear Ed,
I complete a fun exercise this morning. I create a price data series in
the shape of a sine wave and observe the behavior of various simple
trading rules.
Some insights from the exercise:
(1) I learn how to create a data series in the shape of a sine wave in
Excel.
(2) My favorite lags make pretty curves in my charting software. I am
reminded what low-pass and high-pass filters do.
(3) I consider the importance of granularity of prices and lags in a
trading system and their relationship to ">" or ">=". If I am trading a
fast & slow exponential average crossover system, for example, how does
my trading software respond if the slow and fast cross over at 2 decimal
points? 5 decimal points?
(4) More granularity: If a trading system rule is to cut losses at x%,
what precisely does that mean? Less than x%? Less than or equal to x%?
To how many decimal places?
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Thank you for sharing your
process. |
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Wednesday,
September 16, 2009
Overwhelm
and Disappointment
Dear Ed,
I thoroughly enjoy visiting your TT website.
What is the positive intention of feeling overwhelmed?
What is the positive intention of feeling disappointed?
Thank you very much!
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The positive intention of a
particular feeling depends on the person and the situation.
In general the feeling of overwhelm can be a signal to drop back and
regroup while the feeling of disappointment can be a signal to
re-negotiate expectations.

Disappointment
may indicate attachment
to expectations
Clip:http://disappointmentinabox.com/_
wizardimages/milkcereal.jpg |
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Wednesday,
September 16, 2009
Origins of
EcoNowMics
Dear Ed,
You might consider (not at all you "should") putting those snapshots you
have put on the site around April, on the top of the section of
"EcoNowMics".
It might be amazing for readers to see that those small ugly white
papers have preceded the great job done till now for "EcoNowMics". With
them we may all appreciate you live what you say in the now and you say
what you live... Of course, with or without them on the site we know
that you do what you say.
It's an invitation from a fan reader.
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Some of the
early sketches appear at
http://www.seykota.com/tribe/ecofunomics/
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Wednesday,
September 16, 2009
Embarrassing and Frustrating
Ed,
I have watched so many major moves run away (that I have anticipated)
without me that I'm beginning to wonder if I'll ever get to a solution
on this problem. Maybe I'm doomed to watch this forever. That idea
scares me - because then I'll never get rich, meet my goals, achieve my
ambitions.
The times I
have succeeded it has been on the back of the courage of my convictions
and staying with my positions and analysis. Most (but not all) of my
failures have been bailing from things that I have expected during tiny
time frames relative to the time frame of my outlook - this is an
embarrassing and frustrating truth that I have wrestled with for a long
time.
I wonder what to do. |
Thank you for sharing your
process.
You might consider taking your feelings about <embarrassment> and
<frustration> to Tribe. |
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Wednesday,
September 16, 2009
Trying Too
Hard
Ed,
I've been realizing this year that "ambition" and "trying too hard" is
often an impediment to learning things and getting things done.
For some
reason being too ambitious and trying to get somewhere too fast is a
problem that I've suffered greatly from. Over the last few years (and
particularly the last 6 months or so) I've managed to slow down and just
do things bit-by-bit and get things done much more easily - except with
my trading. Today I realized more deeply that I have been trying far too
hard to make money quickly - I had all sorts of cash goals to reach in
short periods of time - I wanted to get somewhere really fast.
The related
side of this is that I was using much more leverage than I knew how to
handle relative to my net worth. Sure, sometimes I could do it and made
big dollars, but generally the larger trends that I anticipated would
escape me; as my position sizes scared me out. I having been trying to
"get rich" too quickly.
I mentioned in a previous post that I didn't
have trouble holding onto smaller positions because I could wait out the
fluctuations more easily. In general I have found my management of
smaller positions to be much more successful. My rush to "get there" has
prevented me from actually making it "there" - wherever there is.
I was
obviously over leveraged when I awoke and stayed awake for 5 hours the
other night nervously monitoring my positions. Given how busy my life is
(I'm also a medical student as well as trader)
I have been over extended
with my trading. Also, the leverage makes it much more likely that the
stress will interpenetrate.
I had previously thought that my inability
to hold positions through the fluctuations of market was a function of
some psychological inadequacy,
But now I think a large component was
that I was too ambitious and trying too hard and trying to get somewhere
too fast. I'm still not sure "where" I was trying to get, but what I
have been doing has not been helping. I have decided to take 2 weeks off
trading and reassess my approach.
I welcome your thoughts. |
Thank you for sharing your
process.
You might consider taking your feelings about <over-extension> and
<stress> to Tribe.

Some People Use Stress
as a way to medicate
fear of intimacy.
Clip:
http://www.scribes.net.au/images/
stressed_man.jpg
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Tuesday,
September 15, 2009
On Sept 7, 2009, Ed's response: When people perceive an advantage in
being confusing, they tend to become confusing.
See the Greenspam quote!
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OK. |
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Tuesday,
September 15, 2009
Capital
Idea
Hi Ed,
I want to thank you again for your article on capital and tool creation.
I notice that software engineers are natural capitalists. They like to
create tools. There is so much supply of software tools that some
categories of software products are essentially free. It is difficult to
make money selling operating systems. It is impossible to make money
selling compilers. On the
other hand, many engineers I know look down on developing
short-life-span, consumer software like games or shopping sites. In tune
with what you say about our consumerist society, this is where the money
actually is.
I notice feeling guilt over consuming resources instead of investing in
tools when I read your article, and I notice that it's similar to what I
experience when I hear about consuming and throwing away instead of
reducing, reusing and recycling. I notice that recycling is a major
trend in fashion and politics. I notice that I like this
feeling of guilt. It guides me to a business opportunity.
At the confluence of consumption, guilt, tool-making and my search for
right livelihood, I start developing tools to recycle compact discs into
consumer products. My first prototype is a spirograph.
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OK. |
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Tuesday,
September 15, 2009
Spikes in
Data
Dear Ed,
I find that sometimes there are spikes in the stock data that I
purchase. The High or the Low of the daily bar looks like it is "too
high" or "too low." I would like to write a program to find these spikes
and correct them by using a safe assumption. Could you please guide me
to do this?
Thanks and Regards.
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If you seek specific guidance
with coding and / or system design see my consulting terms at the bottom
of the Ground Rules page. |
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Monday,
September 14, 2009
Lady Bug
Patterns
Dear Ed,
A ladybug walks on my foggy bathroom window creating an interesting
pattern. She starts in the upper right, moves left, then heads back to
the right.
Common patterns transcend individual market behavior. For example, bond
prices have a lot in common with the way [ladybugs] crawl up and down
[my bathroom window]. Unfortunately for [me], there is usually no one
around to take the other side of a trade.

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Thank you for the photo.
I wonder if you are following a plan for trading the bonds - or if you
are still wandering in a fog - or, perhaps, if some lady is bugging you
lately. |
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Monday,
September 14, 2009
Paper or
Plastic
Hi,
I was
wondering if there was anyway to order the book using a regular credit
card payment? Please let me know if this is possible. |
I accept PayPal and checks. |
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Monday,
September 14, 2009
Playing for
Humiliation
Hi Ed
9/6/09 Humiliation
I'm not sure if this is a typo in your response.
(Playing) Paying for humiliation ... |
Playing for humiliation means
that in the game you create humiliation as the prize.

One Positive Intention of Embarrassment
is alignment with community standards.
Clip:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_U4n4doyBGZs/
Rskw3r3JBFI/AAAAAAAAA9g/JX1QUwahZqA/
s1600-h/priceless+3.jpg |
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Monday,
September 14, 2009
Fred as
Cause
Ed,
In [Country] we have a new road safety campaign which might be a good
joke for you. Its title is "Accident never happens by accident", showing
young driver focused on her mobile phone writing [text message] while
driving, then killing a child crossing the road...etc...
Finally, a word might cover several realities as you wonderfully explain
on the TTBook.
I find two great ways to prove that Intention does not equal result in
our western society but they are not that new as we all see everyday:
1) using the word "accident" when I don't like the result
2) convincing all my interlocutors that my Fred is not myself and they
all have to empathize with my results because Fred might sometimes push
me to act at the opposite of my Conscious mind. Myself is only my
Conscious mind full of good intentions.
It depends on the way I appreciate the result: when I like it, it's my
intention, when I don't like it, it's an accident caused by my Fred and
the rest of the world ... but please, be more empathizing with my Fred ;)
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OK. |
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Sunday,
September 13, 2009
Typo
Hi Ed
A typo I noticed in your response to Dr. Phil joke dated 9/9/09
"the significant other in you(r) life"
I felt your response is sage advice. As always you have a gift for
cutting to the core of an issue even when the sender may not be aware of
it yet and providing a life lesson for all that read FAQs.
Thank you for your continued support. |
Thank you for the catch. |
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Sunday,
September 13, 2009
Dear Big Wave Support Team,
I humbly enclose my latest Big Wave Newsletter. Thank you for your
support.
My Big Wave is to be a Bodhisattva – someone who is wise
and compassionate.
I am feeling quite embarrassed to report that I have not been keeping
good record of my Big Wave Measurement. In July, my in-laws (who are the
primary caretakers for my then 9-month-old son) left the country for a
month due to visa issues, and my parents came to visit and stayed with
us. I took a couple of weeks off from work to baby-sit my son full time.
It disrupted my routine and I stopped keeping track of my measurement.
That also partially explains why there is no July or
August Big Wave Newsletter from me. Even after my in-laws returned and I
resumed my normal schedule, I lost the desire to measure my progress. It
seems that I am avoiding the feedback from reality, just like I notice
how I stop looking at the price when a position goes against me. By
ignoring or even avoiding to receive the feedback (from prices, from
measurement, or from feelings), it seems that I am running away from
feeling disappointment, failing to embrace the gap between what I wish
and what is.
Measurement
Here are the four areas I am measuring regarding my Big Wave:
1.
Trading Tribe
• Took several weeks off in July / August and resume regular
participation recently
2. System
Dynamics
• Stopped my weekly Roadmap commitment
• Not quite sure why but I am still very much interested in learning the
subject, and I am reading other system dynamics articles
3.
Basketball
• Still playing regularly on weekends but now cutting back on the
weekday morning practice
• Shows flashes of brilliance in my weekend games but lacks consistency
4.
Mandarin
• Stopped having lessons with my mother-in-law
Feeling
Obviously I feel disappointed and embarrassed at my results.
Paraphrasing Michael Jordan regarding his first retirement from
basketball, I feel lost – not a burnout as I am still somewhat
passionate with the four areas listed above – but lost. I feel the urge
to walk (stay) away, even though I’d still love to invest my time and
effort to be proficient in System Dynamics and Mandarin. My hope is that
I can come back stronger like Jordan in his second stint with the
Chicago Bulls, but my fear is that I am merely using this as an excuse.
Outlook
Right now I only hold one commitment. I have agreed to support a tribe
member to finish his trading system design and testing. This is
something that this member has put off for 15 years, but we’ve agreed to
have December 31st, 2009 as the deadline. There seems to be a change in
him that he is finally ready to devote himself to the endeavor.
I feel glad to have this opportunity to support him. I feel hopeful that
this experience may help me tremendously in reigniting the fire in me
and draw me back to ride my wave. I feel fear that I may not be up to
task, and that we both end up failing.
I intend to keep reporting my Big Wave progress, “good” or “bad.” Thank
you for being my support team. |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Sunday,
September 13, 2009
Dynamic
Systems
Hi Ed,
I just finished reading "Leverage Points - Places to Intervene in a
System" by Donella Meadows. I wonder if you know her personally, since
she is also a student of Jay Forrester.
In any case,
the paper is hugely interesting to me, and I find it equally fascinating
as Peter Senge's The Fifth Discipline. Beyond Roadmaps (and obviously
your website / workshop), where can one learn more about Systems, Feedback
loops, Leverage Points and etc? What is in the new Oct Workshop that is
not covered in the last one in April? I really like how you apply the
system dynamics in relationships, and it helps me see clearly the
futility in blaming other people "causing" my own issues.
Thanks. |
Donella H. Meadows
dies February 20, 2001 after a 2-week battle with bacterial meningitis.
The content of the
October Workshop, like the content of all workshops, follows the
interests of the participants.
I am adding an extra
day to allow for deeper treatments of the Rocks Process, Trading Systems
and System Dynamics. |
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Saturday,
September 12, 2009
Poznan
Tribe
Hi Ed,
I want to start a new tribe in Poznan, Poland
TTID attached.
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Welcome
Poznan! |
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Saturday,
September 12, 2009
Ed,
I believe you have this from an earlier send of mine. I send again on
this topic FYI.
....this approach appears to be consistent with TF and TT ideas.....I
have a high interest in anything you might have to say about it:
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=
grounded+theory&aq=f&aqi=g10&oq=&fp=
250f6443bc2460ad |
"Grounded Theory" seems to me
like one more senti-phobic attempt to convert the AHA process into a set
of logical rules.
The process surrounding the abstraction of codes, concepts and
categories seems to have as a pre-requisite, some notion of a parsing
algorithm - and this would imply a theoretical framework already in
place.
Using The Glasser and Strauss model, and the Glasser and Strauss
situations, you might conclude that thinking about death causes grounded
theory.
You might consider taking your feelings about <wanting to make some
logical sense of your feelings> to Tribe. |
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Saturday,
September 12, 2009
Dear All,
It is a sunny morning here, and I am so happy to have All of you in my
support Team.
Since last mail I achieve the below:
*) I have been in vacation. I really enjoy it. I feel both relaxed and
active.
*) I am successfully running the fund since last month. I am looking to
create a plan for the days when I go on vacation or when I am away from
office.
*) I am working to flatten any differences between my software and my
real-time results.
*) I have completed all the available material on the net on System
Dynamics.
I read, enjoy and love the material available on
www.tradingtribe.com ,
amazing.
Thank you Ed and all the Contributors.
*) Using Stella, I plan to build the Von Mises business cycle model and
Friedman one and do some simulation. |
Thank you for sharing your
process. |
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Saturday,
September 12, 2009
Wants to
Know About ATR
Dear Ed,
I just would like to request that you explain to me the ATR. What is it
? What does it mean?
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If you consult Google, you
can find references such as:
http://stockcharts.com/school/
doku.php?id=chart_school:
technical_indicators:average_true_range_a
You might consider taking your feelings about <wanting your mother to
take care of you> to Tribe.

Loving Mothers Provide Nourishment and Security
If this process does not complete naturally,
the child may become "needy"
and attempt to convert others
to their own personal nipples.
Clip:
http://www.achildgrowsinbrooklyn.com/
a_child_grows_in_brooklyn/images/2008/08/18/
breastfeeding.jpg
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Saturday,
September 12, 2009
Cognize
Hi Ed,
What is feeling cognize in trading ? How can somebody could understand
that he cognize core principle of something. In our situation to cognize
core principle of trading.
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Answer: It's crackers to snip
a rozzer the dropsy in snide.
Note: You might consider asking one of your friends who is fluent in
English to look over your contributions before you send them in. |
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Friday,
September 11, 2009
Because
Hi Ed,
I notice that I don't use the word "because" very often now. Sometimes
it creeps in from habit. I notice telling my daughter, "I am opening the
shades *because* I want to have more light in the room." I stop, think
about what I'm saying, and say, "I am opening the shades. I want to have
more light in the room."
I notice that I can omit "because" from the sentence without changing
the meaning at all. I wonder if "because" is simply a filler word.
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"Because" lends linguistic
support and confirmation to the causal model.
If you catch yourself using words like "because," "why," and "reason"
you may be in transition from using the causal model to using the system
model. |
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Friday,
September 11, 2009
Feelings
are Like a Scanner
Dear Ed,
If you asked me the same question a year before I am sure I would answer
you different from now. After exchanging with you some letters and
reading all your resources and all your FAQs - which I found on
the internet, I start to look at the world from other angle.
What is for me thinking and feeling?
Thinking is the comparison process inside of our brain. The comparison
provided by the information which brings our feelings to the brain. It
is like, the feelings is a scanner like on a computer. For me feelings
do the same thing which make scanner. And comparison process of course
work by the way of to the direction of low resistance. It looks like the
same things as in computer-software. Our software is "to do the things
which brings us low resistance".
And all the process is going "NOW".
Of course , I would like you to tell us your opinion about thinking and
feeling.
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Thank you for sharing your
thoughts on the matter.

She May Look Like She Wants
to share a life of feeling and emotion
Secretly, longs for logic
and an occasional scan.
Clip:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_PGM5komqCws
/SeFGWbFBQhI/AAAAAAAAG8c/c-dbb48RiDg
/s400/Grace-Kelly-Bride-790440.jpg
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Friday,
September 11, 2009
Comment
Assimilates Graphics
Hello Mr. Ed
Greetings from [Country].
I thought you might enjoy the attached picture that has been inspired by
FAQ.
Thanks a million for your wit & wisdom. It truly has profound effect.
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Thank you for the clip. |
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Friday,
September 11, 2009
Dealing
with 9/11 Loss
Dear Ed,
I watch the history channel --the documentaries from 9-11; I feel the
loss of my best friend and fishing buddy; also 2 former co-workers and a
college football teammate of mine. I allow myself to feel the feeling -- I
embrace it -- I can't say that I enjoy it --but I acknowledge and accept
it.
I do not judge
it.
May they rest
in peace. |
Thank you for sharing your
process. |
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Friday,
September 11, 2009
From
Control to Intimacy
Ed,
The last weeks generate a collection of anecdotes.
1. A lady friend tells me on the phone that her boss is abusive and
menaces to kill her (Tuesday, March 31, 2009, Healing Effect of
Receiving). Everybody tells her what she should do (leave her job), and
she does not dare. I receive her and acknowledge her doing whatever she
wants to do. At the end of the conversation, she says “now I KNOW what
to do!”. I see again. She tells me that in the following days she
completely loss her fear in front of her boss; as he insulted her, she
softly says “it seems that you are angry”; this puts him completely out
of balance and makes him speechless. Very soon he starts respecting her.
Anyway, she leaves her job and starts working at my Hospital. Just by
listening and accepting her she is healed.
2. My employees start talking about the “magic” that I apply. I do not
invite people to do TTP. However, several patients consult me by
mistake, believing that I am a specialist in a certain disorder. As I
mention that I am not, and that I rather listen to people who want to
tell me about their feelings, they start crying and tell me about their
most intimate troubles. Some patients tell me things that they kept
hidden for years. As they talk to my secretary, they are astounded. One
of them says “I never told anybody what I told the doctor today after 5
minutes!”. And we never met before…
3. Today I see a patient who travels more than 150 miles to see the
wrong doctor (me…). Some people travel 200 miles to attend our Tribe
meetings. I seem to turn into a very loud carrot (Saturday, January 31,
2009 Catching Rabbits - by Receiving).
4. My secretary asks me “what do you do with the patients? They tell me
that they never experienced something like that before!”. And I answer
her, sincerely, “I do absolutely nothing: I just sit there, accept the
people the way they are and enjoy them!”. “Herr Doktor”, she says, “but
the patients are extremely moved and say that they never experienced
something like that before!”. “Well”, I say, “maybe nobody accepted them
the way they are before…”.
5. I think for several days about the “pacing” that you showed me at
your home and wonder if I am able to use it. A patient with a so-called
“severe depression” consults me. To me, she just forgot how to play. But
I wonder what a psychiatrist would think about my diagnosis…She returns
after a first consultation, saying that I am somehow different to all
psychologists she knows: I am the first person in front of whom she
could cry, in many years. Then, I do…what do I do? I don't know. I am
just there, sharing the moment with her, leading some times, letting her
lead some other times. I wonder about the effects of receiving her
feelings on her “depression”. I plan to report about it.
6. Two psychologists and one psychiatrist take the hot seat. They have a
long professional experience and have worked for years with patients,
but yet they just cannot believe what they experience on the hot seat.
They want to learn the method. I invite them to my Tribe. One
psychologist sends me a specially troubled patient.
7. One patient mentions “you do not tell me come again in one week: you
say maybe you want to return; in this case, well, I am here!”. I think
“Sure: I do not fix people, and I do not even dream about controlling
them!”.
8. The more silent I am, the loudest the people hear my call…Weird…
9. As I write this report I think “do I try to manipulate Ed, to get an
"atta-boy" from him?”. No, I don't. I just want to share my amazement and
my joy with you. I keep wondering the whole time about the development.
TTP is giving my professional life an unexpected turn. I am happy and
excited about it, very curious, and open to the development, whatever it
is.
Thanks, Chief. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
PS. Atta-boy! |
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Friday,
September 11, 2009
Intimacy
Dear Ed,
Frequently I encounter the word intimacy in your FAQ replies.
How do you define intimacy?
Can you give some examples of intimacy in a relationship?
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Intimacy derives per: Latin
intimare (to bring into, impress or make familiar) < intimus
(innermost) < intus (within) < in (in).
In TTP we draw a distinction between
intimacy-centric relating and control-centric relating.
In the former, the parties share
feelings and vulnerabilities and co-create their experience of the
moment of now. In the later, one party dominates the other, often
through concealment and conjuring of the illusions of causality and
past-future. |
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Friday,
September 11, 2009
Snapshot
Precedes EcoNowMics
Dear Ed,
The more I want to understand the concept of snapshot the more I
remember those strange small pieces of paper you put on the site around
April.
At that time, there was not yet the "EcoNowMics"
section as now. Around April, I remember there were white pieces of
paper on which someone wrote "EcoNowMics
...Big Wave"(...) written by hand. They looked like to be
scanned.
Were those
strange papers your "snapshot" or your "bumper sticker"?
By 5 months later, now we have this great section "EcoNowMics". |
Yes, sometimes this stuff actually
seems to work. |
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Friday,
September 11, 2009
Snapshot
See Previous
Ed,
Actually I don't understand well the concept of snapshot or bumper
sticker in this case of diet.
Which image or what image I might consider putting on my snapshot: an
image of myself slenderer or something else?
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Snapshot formation is effective as a
group process. You might consider taking your request for snapshot
clarification to Tribe.

Slim People Enjoy Doing Things
that associate with maintaining their weight
such as getting plenty of exercise,
and eating right.
Clip:
http://www.herbsforbetterlife.com/site
builder/images/thin_woman_copy3-195x315.jpg |
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Friday,
September 11, 2009
Milk Glass
Model
Dear Ed,
I think the glass filling game gives a good insight in to a person's
(trader's) natural make up.
When trying to fill it as quickly as possible I opted for the
'slam-shut' method instinctively.
I think it is easy to make a guess from that what my trading p/l over
time looks like.
This makes me think of a book I read by Nasim Taleb, I can't recall
which of his two books it is but he says something (or I remember it
like this) that sticks in my mind.
Essentially his point is that it doesn't matter how large the odds of a
'negative' outcome of a game, if you don't want to the consequences of
that outcome don't bet.
In my mind I see it as Russian roulette with 1,000 chambers and one
bullet and a £1million prize each time you pull the trigger. What he
says (or how I take it) is that if you don't want to die don't play.
I don't judge the risk of overspill in the milk game, or 'blowing up' my
account as seriously as I 'should' mainly because I've been protected
from my recklessness by well meaning, if maybe misguided parents.
I wonder if an overspill in the milk game leads to a loud horn going off
or something discouraging it would alter peoples behavior. I am sure if
it leads to bankruptcy it would!
I have frozen my trading with the prop firm I joined. I can see people
in the office making money and with long track records and although I
love the 'buzz' I don't feel the approach I adopted there is inline with
what I truly want.
For now I am trading on paper only and trying to educate myself to
setting firm risk parameters before I trade. I feel I have an edge in
the FTSE futures and have a track record over time until blow up that
backs this up. Now I need to figure is the blow up inherent in my method
or my lack of strict application of the method.
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Thank you for sharing your process. |
Back to the
future
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