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March
1-12, 2004
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Questions
(Quotes
from Ed in Red)
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Answers
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Fri, 12 Mar 2004
Ice Follies
Hi Ed,
Do intentions invariably equal results? I guess I'm having trouble believing
so.
I fell on a patch of ice two nights ago, and now I'm on crutches for six
weeks. I'm having difficulty understanding why I may have intended to
become injured in some way.
I also don't think it's that big of a deal and I'm actually becoming a
little annoyed with peoples' sympathy. Do you have any thoughts on this?
It doesn't hurt too much. It's just inconvenient. At least I'm am at-home
trader and not a soccer player or field goal kicker.
Thank you very much for your web site. |
Asking
the question, why, does not seem to lead to much insight.
To
learn more about your intentions, you can use your feelings about the
incident (physical pain, annoyance, resentment) as an entry point into TTP.
As
you experience these feelings fully, you gain insights about your
intentions.
The
twin dogs of judgment and resistance guard the door to insight from those
who would enter by the path of logic.
Sometimes
your Intention
puts
you In Traction
Clip: http://www.icesk8.com/clipart5.htm |
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Thu, 11 Mar 2004
IV Trading
Tribe
Hi Ed,
I moved to Tahoe in January, and would be interested in joining your Trading
Tribe waiting list. I am a young (26) male that will be working for a local
hedge fund/CTA. I have attached my resume for your review, and below is the
short description of my understanding of the trading tribe. Thanks, and I
look forward to speaking with you.
Regards,
Understanding of the Trading Tribe Process
To the best of my understanding, the TT is a personal growth group with a
focus on excellence and giving and receiving support from others. The TTP
does not tell people what to do, rather it supports the members through
giving and receiving support. The TTP draws on the ability of others to help
you focus on fully experiencing your feelings.
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Your
resume shows a SAT score of 1510 (800m + 710v) and a career ranging from
biomedical engineering to fundamental sector analysis.
You
seem to be able to follow directions.
You
are welcome to join.
Consistent
attendance is essential. |
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Thu, 11 Mar 2004
Just Some
Random Thoughts Today ...
I realize the fact that I have the opportunity to trade is not a right but
rather a privilege. If I don't give it my fullest, and if I don't show
results, I may lose this privilege. The only way to have the results is, as
far as I know, to have the pure intention of obtaining it. |
Your
concern with Rights and Privileges indicates you feel some higher authority
is supposed to award you permission.
You
might check your feelings about being your own boss.
You
Can Supplicate to This
Handy
Wallet-Size Photo
of
an Authority Figure
until
you are willing accept
the
feelings of your own sovereignty,
Clip: http://www.bexleyheath
photographicsociety.co.uk/
The-Weight-of-Authority.jpg |
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Wed, 10 Mar 2004
Counting the
Hours
I am interested in Seykota's workshop in May. I would like to know if Ed
gonna be all the time in the workshop and how many
hours he gonna conduct the workshop.
tks
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Ed
intends to appear full time.
You
may consult the Workshop page for information about the number of hours. |
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Tue, 09 Mar 2004
Clarity
Ed,
By following my TTP trend, my whole life continues to soar upwards, one aha
after the next. Our awesome [Tribe] Leader facilitated my seeing what was
behind my lack of clarity.
I've mostly lived
my life avoiding clarity because then my mother can't nail me.
Living life not in
present time. In my rare moments, I have been totally there. I so loved them
because I experienced such richness on all levels: senses, emotions, body,
and mentally of I can do it and life is so fun.
By accepting that,
I next saw that I've not been running my life. So, of course, my trading
system been confusion. Love the clarity of confusion. Daily I get to choice,
confusion or clarity.
Thanks again for sharing yourself and your work. Great success on your
upcoming book!
Best to you. |
OK. |
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Tue, 9 Mar 2004
CM, Fred &
Physical Pain
Ed,
I've recently reread The Mind Body Prescription: Healing the Body,
Healing the Pain by Dr John Sarno, a back surgeon at NYU Medical School.
Dr S' hypothesis
is that most back (and some other) pain - including excruciatingly severe
pain - has in the vast majority of cases nothing to do with herniated discs
etc, even if such things are clearly shown on MRI scans and so forth, but
rather with the mind creating a physical diversion away from unconscious
anger / rage / unhappiness which is 'threatening' to appear in conscious
awareness.
In this process,
the ingenious mind chooses the most believable 'cause' of pain, eg. a
herniated disc causing severe sciatica, to avoid the possibility of this
rage / whatever becoming conscious.
Dr S' solution
- hugely over-abbreviated for the purposes of this email - is to accept his
hypothesis and let the mind know that one is not fooled by its actions,
whilst looking within for the causes of pent up rage etc. Those able to
engage this approach report an exceptionally high success rate.
I am & have found it very useful myself - it has helped me avoid
recommended back surgery and engage in sports that were previously off
limits.
My question is how
this relates to your views on the interaction between CM & Fred.? Dr
S encourages one to ignore the feeling, in this case sometimes severe
physical pain, whilst embracing the certainty of an unconscious,
psychological cause.
Would your
approach celebrate even the feeling of severe physical pain ?
If this is too far off-topic, no problem. I very enjoy enjoy your TTP pages
and remain a regular reader.
Best, |
TTP
promotes experiencing all feelings, especially ones we judge to be
"painful." The TTP path includes identifying feelings,
removing judgments about them and coming to celebrate their positive
intentions.
Sometimes,
severe pain is just Fred's way of getting CM to listen to some very
important advice.
Dr.
Sarno champions the idea that physical pain, particularly in the back is
often a symptom of repressed anger.
His
recovery plan includes dealing with the "cause" of the anger,
through meditation and sometimes psychotherapy, including behavior
modification, and stopping any medication or physical therapy.
"You don't
even need to eliminate the source of the stress -- you just have to become
aware of it." - Dr. John Sarno
Ignoring
feelings misses the essential work of reconciling Fred and CM and does not
work for long.
Pain
Often Indicates Drama
Clip: http://www.coolrunning.com.au/
general/1999e019.shtml |
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Tue, 9 Mar 2004
Transformation
Dear Mr. Seykota,
I've finally experienced the real power of TTP! Last night my session was
infinite times as productive than all my previous sessions COMBINED, and
I've joined the tribe since last June!!! More importantly, I finally have a
glimpse of what it means to be committed, what it takes to go from good to
great, what it means to just go with the flow!! A lot of the things you talk
about in the FAQ, which I have a conceptual understanding and consciously
agreeing, now finally becomes fully coherent and natural. I can flow in it -
it all makes sense now (not that I'm trying to figure out, but I just feel I
have the answers).
I have asked you many times about my commitment issue, that I cannot keep my
promise to myself. I usually know what I need to do to be successful, and I
get all hyped up but it dies rather quickly. And then I am reverting back to
my old self and it has been a chronic problem. You answer with a picture of
back pain and say it is a message from Fred to communicate. I am not too
sure at that time because I don't have any back pains, but in any case I am
so glad I take it to the process.
I think a large part of last night's phenomenal experience is due to a
commitment to feel the feelings. I am sick of wasting time on conscious
talks, and I am just hungry and dying to feel my sub-conscious. Equally
important is the commitment of the receivers. Before the process, we
reaffirm our commitment to receive. We share our concerns and the difficulty
we have in receiving. I plead for help in reaching out for me, as if I am
hanging on a cliff and about to die if you don't grab and hold on to me.
Don't just let me die. I am desperate for help.
You are right - successful TTP needs COMMITMENT on both senders and
receivers. A stuck sender is a stuck receiver.
Unlike other times, I am able to feel (hot) early. I don't really go back
into the time when I was uncommitted to see how it feels, but I just go with
the flow and feel the heat that turns into numbness, starting from my head
and all over my body. Getting into a feeling is usually a big obstacle for
me, but not this night. I am able to get into it rather quickly, perhaps due
to the true and honest desire to feel them.
Then I sense some hard objects in my throat (this is new - I usually just
feel void). Very subtle and I thank my receivers for keeping me focus on the
task and not just let it go. The hard object grow in size and almost
suffocate me, until I have a HUGE outburst. If you watch Braveheart, it is
like the last scene when Mel Gibson is dying and unleash his last breath!
And here's the important part - I jump right back to the feeling. In the
past, I think we'd have stopped right there and be contented with this
manifestation of feeling. Heck, it is like an ejaculation. You get it, so
what more do you want? But heck, this time I jump right back at it, and
again feel the suffocation, and again lead to an ENORMOUS outburst. Tears
start rolling down, not because of sorrow or sadness, but because of this
physical beating. Yet, I jump right back into it again and my receivers are
giving me encouragement. I have probably 20 or even 30 of these total
suffocations and outbursts!! Talk about twenty orgasms in one night!! I am
exhausted but I jump right back to it again. All I know is, "Hey, if
there's any doubt on my commitment, let's put that to an end tonight."
(I've read that this is the words Brett Favre said before a game last season
after his father died. He threw for 300+ yards and 4 TDs in the first half)
I am not backing down. I will jump back at it until you (the feeling)
surrender.
I also realize the difficulty that someone may have on TTP. It takes
commitment and determination on the sender part to experience
"painful" feelings. I put painful in quote because it is the
negative label we give to the feeling. To me, towards the end of this
suffocate and puking outburst (I was thinking I may actually puke), I
actually enjoy a positive intentions of cleansing. I am cleaning out all the
dirt and pant-up feelings that I have stored over the years, and this is the
time that I just get them out of my body once and for all. I finally settle
down when there is really nothing for me to vomit out (so to speak). I am
guessing the receivers may even wonder how much more beating I am going to
take and if I will actually pass out.
It is a very fantastic release of all these tensions, but there's MORE. (I
feel like TTP is like the stretching exercise for the mind. We tense the
muscles and then release it and it feels relaxed) I settle down a little bit
and feel some remaining feeling. Very subtle, but big thanks to my receivers
to help me keep staying with them. Consciously I know I want to feel them,
but then subconsciously I am actually trying to make them go away so I can
report to my receivers. It is just like my lack of commitment!! Consciously
I know what I need to do to be successful, but subconsciously I am doing the
exact opposite.
It takes a while until I finally locate a very subtle feeling at the back.
The back! As you said - My chronic problem of reverting *back* to my old
self! I didn't have a back problem but now I feel a sharp knife stabbing my
lower back. It is a razor sharp knife!!! My receivers keep me at the task,
and encourage me to feel it again. This is the real test. It is such a sharp
pain that I hesitate whether I can or even want to feel it again. But the
commitment part that I have been questioning steps up, and I jump at the
knife again. Imagine Julius Caesar getting stabbed multiple and multiple
times! It's like putting your hands in fire, and after getting burned, and
keep putting your hands again in fire. (Isn't it true in trend trading too
that you lose money, and you lose money, but you keep getting back at it and
keep getting back at it because that is your system? Is it the joy of losing
and the pain of winning that you talk about in Market Wizards?)
In retrospect, finding that sharp painful spot was a bliss!! It's like,
"Ha ha, I GOT you!!!" Even though it is very painful, I am telling
myself I have invested too much to give up at this point. It is like in a
basketball game, your team is down 99-100 with seconds remaining. The coach
is telling you, "No matter how tired and painful you are, you just
can't give up now. We've
invested too much to just give up at this moment. Suck it up!! If there's
any doubt about your commitments, let's put it to rest right now."
And there it is. As I get back to the pain over and over again for about
five times, the sharp knife gradually diminishes to a round object, and I
feel that it cannot hurt me anymore. As I notice that, I can't help but
notice a victorious smile. I am the last one standing. Buzzer beater. I have
the last laugh. All of the other feelings quiet down, and it was a truly,
absolutely amazing experience.
I have finally tasted the real TTP. And I have finally seen what it means to
be committed to push it from good to great. Ironically this is the book
(Good to Great) that one of the other members was talking about later on the
night. In the past TTP sessions, we "took profits" prematurely and
give up the huge gains. We were contented with one climax, never realizing
that multiple orgasms is possible. For months I have been talking about lack
of commitment, and now I finally get the meaning of being committed.
Determination. Perseverance. These words have a whole new meaning now.
In trading terms, this is my one big trade after a long series of small
losses, and it by far cover up all those small losses. This is the trade
that catapult me into the "other side." Once there, you never want
to go back. Instead, you want to get more people to this side and enjoy this
paradise. I remember I hear someone quoting you, "You can be on this
side with me, or you can be on the other and I'll take your money." (Or
something
like that)
Well, I look forward to the next meeting so that I can get another member to
this side as well. It's rather lonely when I am the only one to experience
such amazing transformation.
A big big big thank to you for the FAQ, and a huge huge huge thank to the
receivers.
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Yes.
Commitment,
includes intention and agreement with others.
Commitment
aligns CM's on the logical plan level, and aligns Freds on the Under Fred
Network.
Commitment
is the power to realize that intention = result. |
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Tue, 9 Mar 2004
Tasting the Fire Hose
See: Feb
27 News for short-term traders
Hi Ed,
As a dealer on Foreign Exchange desk I see colleagues who trade as scalpers
make steady profits for several days / weeks only to return any profits to
the market in the space of a few hours as they taste the fire hose.
These guys repeat this pattern time and time again. As a note for all FAQ
readers ... DO NOT get yourself in a situation where you taste the fire
hose ... it is not pleasant. |
Yes,
tasters are generally working out some drama.
Fortitude
Testing Platform
for
top and bottom pickers
Clip: http://www.jhu.edu/news_info/
news/home02/may02/images/hose.jpg |
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Tue, 9 Mar 2004
Wants some
Testimonials
Hi Ed,
I sent an email to [Name] in Melbourne. I was hoping to get some information
on the group etc and also ask a few questions regarding your upcoming
seminar in Tahoe May 2004.
I have been trading from home for a year now but feel I am still dealing
with issues mentioned in the topic of the seminar.
I am contemplating doing the course and working out costs etc. Also it would
be good to speak to someone who has done the course and who is an active
member of the group.
Could you put me in touch with anyone else in Melbourne I could speak with,
please? Failing that, I am in Perth on the 27th March if you have a member
there.
Many thanks,
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FAQ
does not publish the names of contributors or Workshop attendees.
You
might examine how you feel, right now, about attending the Workshop. |
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Mon, 8 Mar 2004
Causality
Dear Mr. Seykota,
In the TTP page, there is a TT member philosophy section which states that
"I believe in holistic evolution, not linear causality." Can you
please kindly elaborate on that? For example, I am confused because it
seems to me "Intention = Results" is actually a causal
relationship. It is like "Since I have this intention, I will
obtain this result." Or perhaps I am misinterpreting it because
that would mean "Intention -> Result" instead. I appreciate
your clarification. Thanks.
ciao,
|
The
TTP view includes that:
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Causality,
like time, is a convenient conceptual illusion. |
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Intention
manifests as result, in the ever evolving moment of now. |
That
{2 = 2} does not imply that {2 causes 2}. Once you clear yourself of
causality, blame, excuses, etc. you notice that {intention = result} shows
up more and more.
In
physics, our notions of local causality tend to follow the lines from flow
rates to levels: we say the flow from the bottle
"causes" the level in the glass to rise - rather than saying the
level rising in the glass "causes" the water to flow out of the
bottle.
Physicists
can Explain all about
how
the wine flows into the glass
and
not even come close
to
explaining how come
someone
is pouring the wine.
Clip: http://216.26.171.145/InGoodSpirits/
files/content/pouring%20red%20wine.jpg |
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Sun, 7 Mar 2004
Affective
Forecasting
Hello Ed,
Just thought you'd enjoy this greatly; I definitely did.
As you say, "everyone gets what they want." This may help them to
assess what -- and how -- they truly want.
With great respect,
-----
http://www.edge.org/
3rd_culture/gilbert03/
gilbert_index.html
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Dr
Gilbert studies the difference between {wishes, fantasies, anticipations}
and {actuality, dealing with success, how it really is}.
He
looks at the possible emotional let-down after one transits from the first
to the second, and names this whole phenomenon The Big Wombassa.
Sometimes, people feel sad when they realize their dream and find out
reality is less satisfying than the fantasy they lose.
A life of growth seems to be a series of dis-illusion-ments.
Dr.
Gilbert
The
Big Wombassa:
What
you think you're going to get,
and
what you don't get,
when
you get what you really want.
Clip:
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/
gilbert03/gilbert_index.html |
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Sun, 7 Mar 2004
Uncles
Ciao Ed,
quoting from 'The Economist'
http://www.economist.com/
finance/displayStory.cfm?
story_id=2483444
Straight talk from the Fed's boss
The Economist - Mar 4th 2004
Alan Greenspan was asked whether the Fed has been to lax in preventing
asset-price bubbles. Probably not, he said, but there is not enough
experience in an era of paper money to know exactly how to deal in with such
things.
"Human nature" lies at the heart of the problem, he said,
"and I don't know what monetary policy we can implement to alter human
nature".
Some habits are hard to change.
Is Greenspan learning SVO-p grammar? Is Uncle Alan using the Uncle
Point in the Fed monetary policy. Maybe Greenspan is just establishing a new
Trading Tribe in the Fed building? Is Fred taking over Alan?
best regards, as ever
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Alan
Greenspan may be thinking about continuing his career in the private sector,
and may be adjusting his language accordingly.
If
he can master SVO-p, then maybe I can learn Grin-Spin.
Grinning
& Spinning
Alan
Throws in the Towel
on
Fundamental Analysis
and
Salutes the Trend Traders
"Nonetheless,
despite extensive efforts on the part of analysts, to my knowledge, no model
projecting directional movements in exchange rates is significantly superior
to tossing a coin. I am aware that of the thousands who try, some are quite
successful. So are winners of coin-tossing contests. The seeming ability of
a number of banking organizations to make consistent profits from foreign
exchange trading likely derives not from their insight into future rate
changes but from market making." - Alan Greenspan, Addressing Economic
Clum of New York, March 2, 2004
Clip: http://glozwurld.topcities.com/
images/spinner.gif
Speech: http://www.federalreserve.gov/
boarddocs/speeches/2004/
20040302/default.htm |
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Thu, 4 Mar 2004
Sydney Australia Trading Tribe
Hi Ed,
I want to form a tribe in Sydney Australia. Can you please post my address
on your contacts page.
all the best
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Welcome
Sydney
Australia !
You
are in the Directory.
Sydney
Clip:
australiavideo.com/sydney/
parklodge/map.htm |
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Thu, 4 Mar 2004
Reno Workshop /
Incline Visit
Hi Ed,
I'm planning to fly over to attend your workshop in May, and would like ...
a short visit with you if possible ... for the following specific purposes:
1.) To evaluate my simulation tests that are based on methods which I plan
to use in trading. (Your help with this would be very valuable to me in
tweaking the parameters and risk controls, to obtain both optimum results
and system robustness across various markets.)
2.) For diversification purpose, to discuss possibly allocating a portion of
my trading capital to be managed by you under a special limited discretion
/segregated account ...
Please advise via return if you could possibly spare a couple of hours on
either Thursday (May 6th) or on Monday (May 10th) for this? I can come up to
Incline anytime /at your convenience. Thanks in advance.
Best regards, |
I
suggest:
|
commit
to a specific system |
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follow
your system |
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work
on your feelings |
You
might notice that these notions are about 180º out of phase with standard
practice.
If
you wish to launch a course of system design, testing and optimization, send
me a one-page description of your system, and a one-page description of what
you wish to accomplish.
If
you wish to place funds, send me a one-page description of how much money
you are willing to lose and how fast you are willing to lose it.
If
you wish to attend the Workshop, follow the directions on the Workshop page. |
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Fri, 5 Mar
2004
Roommates in Reno
Hi Ed,
A fellow I meet during my visit to the NYC all day TTP intensive in January
lets me know that he will be attending the Reno workshop as well.
He asks if I want
to room with him. I tell him that I am up for it if it gives us any price
discount, as I do not require a private room of my own on this trip.
According to the
schedule posted on the workshop page, most of the time (normal waking hours
anyway) from check in on the 7th to check out on the 9th is spent together
doing the workshop.
That being the
case, I don't mind sharing a room since we won't spend that much free time
there anyway (aside from sleeping). I see no provision for roommates on the
workshop page, so I inquire.
Does any monetary
discount apply for sharing a room with another attendee? If not, it occurs
to me that there is no advantage in sharing unless the pair just really
likes one another's company :)
Thanks, |
The
Workshop package includes room and board and offers no discounts.
You
are welcome to bring friends to stay with you.
The
Size of Your Domicile
might
depend on your view
Clip: http://www.lithuanianholidays.com/
images/farmstead1.gif. |
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Fri, 5 Mar 2004
Workshop
Hi Ed. Will there be another workshop in 2004? Regretfully, I will not be
attending the May workshop.
Thank You,
|
This
is the second Workshop. I do not have plans for a third one at this
time. |
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Fri, 5 Mar 2004
Faulkner - In
the News
I notice a letter
in the The Economist, by Charles Faulkner.
Working
Overseas
SIR – Like Gregory Mankiw, you get the facts right but their meaning wrong
(“The great hollowing-out myth”, February 21st). While some Americans
are swayed by the media mania over the “jobless recovery” others know
that offshoring is an economic reality with at least some benefits. The
shock that brought this to the fore is that the “knowledge worker” jobs
that Americans were told to prepare for are leaving as well. The unspoken
question is: “What will we do for a living?”
As solutions, one party offers cutting education of all kinds, while the
other promises protectionism. No one in America is willing to say we have
brought this upon ourselves. Expect more shrill rhetoric, buck passing,
scapegoats and bad policy.
http://www.economist.com/
opinion/displayStory.cfm?
story_id=2478051 |
See
more from Charles Faulkner at Essay
on TTP.
The
Economist, home to some of the best funny-mentalists around, seems to have
an uncanny knack of calling market turns with its cover art.
Economist,
Feb 7, 2004
Cover
Indicates Dollar Falling,
European
Currencies Rising ...
British
Pound, June Future
...
confirming, again, the value of the
Magazine
Cover Indicator.
Clip: http://economist.com/
printedition/cover_index.cfm |
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Fri, 5 Mar 2004
Growing in
Austin
Ed,
On the directory page, please change the average attendance number for the
Austin intentional community from 3 to 4. We are growing.
P.S. I spoke to Sarah at the Peppermill today to let her know I am arriving
a bit earlier than the 3:00 check in time on May 7th. My plane is scheduled
to arrive at about 1:30. She says that she will make a note
of it, but that I might want to let you know as well, so that you can note
it on your list. Message delivered.
Also, I notice that some of the pre-workshop assignments on the Workshop
page are changed. I complete the ones that are there previously, and now I
complete these new ones. I encourage you to continue to revise them, as I
get a lot of value from doing all of them. Writing something down is a good
way to learn about the clarity of my thinking and the quality of my feelings
on a subject.
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OK. |
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Thu, 4 Mar 2004
Trading Tribe
Process Workshop
Dear Sir/Madame:
One of our employees, [Name] will be attending your seminar. Due to our
reimbursement policy here at [Big Brokerage House], we ask that all costs be
placed on the employee's corporate AMEX card for any incurred / to be
incurred expenses. According to the information given, you have requested
payment in the form of a check. Please advise if it would be possible to pay
for this seminar via the corporate card.
Regards,
|
The
Workshop registration process assumes mastery of some of the subtleties of
the financial system, such as how to produce a check.
The
rates of return for traders in the employ of your peers [other Big Brokerage
Houses] is from about -15% to 250% per year. They all use the same
machinery and read the same newspapers. I wonder how you explain the
differences in results.
Some
of the heads of major trading units claim that "feelings" do not
enter into trading, that their traders do not trade on feelings or allow
feelings to distract them.
You
might consider sending some more of your key employees to Reno for a shake
out.
Early
Training
pays
off big time
Clip: http://www.keithryan.com/
Images/strongbaby.jpg |
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Wed, 3 Mar 2004
Detailed
Questions regarding:
"Positive
Intention and Judging"
Post of Wed, 31
Dec 2003
Chief Ed,
Regarding the referred-to post, I have a few very closely related questions.
My main question is simply looking for confirmation of a key assumption I
have about Fred.
In reading FAQ I see that all feeling are (ideally) experienced fully
... such that the positive intention of the feelings can be understood. This
key understanding is the TT Aha -- the personal insight.
In my TT reading, I see again and again (and therefore assume) that all
feelings (from Fred) always have positive intention. Yes?
Assuming yes: Is this because Fred, my subconscious, is always looking out
for me, doing everything he can to help me survive?
Put another way, do all feelings have positive intention because a) The
feelings all come from Fred and b) Fred's 100% purposeful, focused intention
is to keep me alive?
If yes: Then, Fred is my very-well-intentioned pal, whose messages are
typically delivered to CM in a "feeling envelope"?
If yes: Then, Fred's ability to communicate well-intentioned messages is a
function of CM's ability to "receive mail" from Fred?
***
Reference:
http://www.seykota.com/
tribe/pages/2003_Dec/
Dec_21-30/
Wed, 31 Dec 2003
Positive Intention and Judging
Dear Mr. Seykota,
While we always talk about the "positive" intention of the
feelings, isn't
that judgmental?
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Yes.
CM,
in an attempt to make some logical sense of TTP, talks about positive and
negative intentions.
Fred
does not carry notions about TTP, such as positive and negative.
Feelings
are the bridge between CM and Fred, the language they both understand, in
their own ways.
Building
and maintaining the bridge between Fred and CM is the work of The Trading
Tribe and of TTP.
A
Little Bridge
can
make a big difference
Clip: http://www.abundantdawn.org/
pictures/bridge-big.jpg
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Wed, 3 Mar 2004
TT FAQ Search
Ideas
Chief Ed,
I am writing to relate a simple web site tweak that may optimize the TT site
for search over time.
I have a question that relates to a previous question and I am trying to
recall the location. I realize I will have to use TT search.
Since the words I am searching are common, ("positive, negative, good,
bad, intention"), TT search returns many pages.
The many pages I find in the search results will show me the context of the
text, which helps me greatly to zero in on the specific page of interest.
However, due to the size of the page, search gets me in the
"ballpark" (specific page) only.
For there, I must scan the text using the IE "Edit/Find (On this
page)" functionality.
Given the volume of text that is now building up on TT FAQ, maybe you will
consider linking several smaller-size pages for a given time interval,
instead of the current one-continuous page format.
The smaller pages may allow more efficient per-visitor searching of the
site, as the volume of text (and visitors) builds up over time.
Buttons or links for Previous (at top of page) and Next (at page bottom) may
prove simple to implement without adding any extra maintenance tasks for the
webmaster.
Respectfully,
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Yes,
small pages seem to facilitate page-specific searching.
To
facilitate searching of, say, Gone With The Wind, or For Whom The
Bell Tolls, or The Sorcerer's Stone, the publishers could put
just one paragraph on a page, even just one phrase on a page.
To
the man with a hammer, the world looks like a nail. To the man with a
search engine, the world looks like a phrase, hopefully one that leads
directly to the one and only answer.
Meaning
is largely a function of intention; the meaning of FAQ seems to ride out on
top of the text, while readers interact with the pages.
You
might consider your feelings about things that are alive and messy.
Some
Things are Inherently Messy
like,
for example,
the
markets.
http://www.wtvn.com/staff/
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Wed, 3 Mar 2004
FAQ Rule
Dear Sir,
While I understand that FAQ does not endorse traders or commercial products,
may I please ask where do you draw the line?
For example, I
notice the Feb 25 FAQ you skip a paper on a trading system, while on the
same date there is a link to the www.processwork.org
website, and in other occasions I've also seen www.turtletrader.com
. (Those are all informative sites BTW)
I'd like to know
where the line is so that I don't step over. Thanks.
ciao,
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I
make up rules and I draw lines; I am sometimes (often) inconsistent.
You
might consider taking your feelings about inconsistency (in others, and in
yourself) into TTP as a starting point.
Sometimes
People Complain
as
a way to avoid
experiencing
their feelings
Clip: www.pritchettcartoons.com
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complaint.htm |
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Wed, 3 Mar 2004
Well Done
Hi Ed,
My involvement in the Trading Tribe process is having fantastic effects on
my life / relationships / trading. After a successful trading period I
(Fred) entrained a drama which involved gambling and created the feelings
that I suppress like dizziness in the head and tightness in the stomach. I
realize it was a protective warning and accept the positive intention of
Fred to warn me (again) of the effects of straying from proven methods to
just trading just for the sake of it.
I will take the
feelings into the next tribe meeting so I can fully experience them.
While I write it occurs to me that I hold back from reporting to you all the
positives that TTP is having and just how much its helping me in everything
I do. In the last 6 months there were numerous occasions when something
really great happened and I thought about writing in then didn't. It seems
I'm afraid of your response, that it will rebuke me instead of praising me,
like when you answer a question in class only to be ridiculed by the teacher
in front of everyone. I'm sorry for blaming you for my previous experiences
I guess I'm looking for a well done and found another entry point for the
next meeting.
Thank you so much for the great work you do. |
If
you trade to get approval, you might find yourself imitating your approver's
habits.
Things
Tend to Get Well Done
when
people have a steak
in
the matter.
Clip: www.docksiderestaurant.com/
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Tue, 2 Mar 2004
Polarity Process
Ed,
Ed Says: "You might consider fully allowing your
anxiety and your joy to manifest and receive each other."
[This] seemed to connect to a single line I remembered from scanning the May
TTP
Workshop page:
"TTP and the Polarity Process."
Didn't feel like much at the time, but over the past few days I notice an
increasing resonance when I pay attention to it. It feels like these two
things go together and that both (1) we stand to witness another evolution
or extension of your work -- TTP >>> Hardball >>> TTP
& the Polarity Process and that (2) the TTP Polarity process may provide
a method to manifest things like anxiety and joy, allow them to receive each
other, and perhaps facilitate a differential perception of their
relationship; i.e.: not heads, not tails, but a coin! Still, lots of work to
do.
Any thoughts or feelings or examples or instructions you have (in
development or realized) regarding this would prove most welcomed. And, yes
I intend to take my keenness on this right into to TTP tomorrow night.
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FAQ
provides a general theory of TTP (Fred-ian Analysis) and provides commentary
on reader postings.
FAQ
does not provide much in the way of "how-to" instructions as
people tend to invent methods appropriate to themselves.
You
can pick up TTP by practicing it, and by observing others practicing it in
Tribe meetings.
If
you wish to see how I do it, come to a workshop.
Nature
Tends to Resolve
Polarities
http://www.brooks.af.mil/dis/
DIS65/electrosurg1.jpg |
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Tue, 2 Mar 2004
What
Distinguishes TTP
From Other
Approaches
Hi Ed !
I was called up to explain what distinguishes the Trading Tribe Process to a
trader's emotions from other approaches, I came up this and thought other
traders might find it interesting, possibly even useful. |
Yes.
See
Charles Faulkner's Essay on NLP, TTP and other topics. |
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Tue, 2 Mar 2004
Question on a Specific TT Essay Search
Chief Ed,
I'm searching on TT for a specific essay I still believe is
Chief-Ed-authored ... and somewhere on the TT site.
I recall an essay on TT containing content on: People who exhibit
behavior consistent with feelings of entitlement ... specifically,
entitlement to the wealth of others.
I'm hoping you will recall writing / posting this content, and identify the
actual link.
I searched TT for "relatives", "wealth",
"entitlement" etc without finding
it.
Do you recall ever posting any such content? |
As
the political season seems to be on again, you may find an abundance of
people illuminating this topic from a variety of directions.
Entitlement
Dealer
Clip: http://www.restoreliberty.com/
images/politician.jpg |
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Mon, 1 Mar 2004
Confirming the
Wichita Tribe
I noticed the tribe information for the Wichita, Kansas tribe has not been
updated. I would like to have the tribe shown as active. We have 2 members
and held our first meeting on February 23rd. We have scheduled weekly
meetings for the next month as we try to understand the trading tribe
process. The tribe was started with our first contact in January 2004
You might also change the abbreviation for Kansas from KA to KS.
Thank you for your valuable service.
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OK. |
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Tue, 2 Mar 2004
Your Web Site
Hi,
I know you from the interview in the market wizards. It was translated in
Turkish years ago.
I found your web sites while surfing in the net, that was a coincidence.
Frankly, I could not believe that a successful trader would share his
knowledge, which is his all treasury.
Regards,
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Beliefs
are incidental to trend following.
You
might check your own feelings about sharing yourself with others.
Clip: www.notsosketchy.com/
sharing.html |
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Mon, 1 Mar 2004
TT Florence -
Italy Update
Ciao Ed,
I had just 3 enquiries about TT since I posted my contacts details and none
qualified as a trend follower.
My intention is still to start a TT here in Florence and I am sharing
thoughts with a commercial trading community.
I feel that TTP is beneficial for all the tribe members and I don’t feel
like to be paid for what I’m sharing.
I would like to share feelings with you about my affiliation with a
commercial trading community.
TREND FOLLOWING UPDATE
Right now I am a non-trading trader. I study and learn about myself,
the markets and I let other interests to grow.
Since I am the only member of my local TT I feel like sharing some
experience with all the other tribe members about the ‘intention = result’
equation.
My intention is to become a trend-follower on financial markets and
because right now my starting capital is too small I am looking for
other things to do as well.
The fascinating thing I feel about the TTP approach is the massive amount of
creativity is producing and the extraordinary number of ‘coincidences’
is creating.
I have still unresolved dramas in my life but I feel like the ‘AHAs’
I’m having are pointing me towards the right direction, is like being back
‘in the zone’ or ‘now’ when you don’t worry about the results
because you just simply enjoy what you’re doing, and you don’t even care
about the results, because you know they’re just a by-product of what you
learn about yourself.
Best regards, as ever
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Trend
trading is not necessarily a pre-requisite for Tribe membership.
If
you post a reason (capital too small) for a result, your intention is to put
the reason in charge of your result.
Size
Matters
if
that is your intention
http://www.lrh.usace.army.mil/
Photos/OR-WIO/
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Mon, 1 Mar 2004
Physical
Feeling
Dear Mr. Seykota,
How important is the manifestation of physical feeling?
Your Feb 6 FAQ opens up a lot, and a significant breakthrough in my
understanding of practicing TTP.
Ed
Says: "Your insistence that 'void' have a color or temperature may
indicate unwillingness on your part to go to "void" with the
sender ... Just be there, endlessly, with void, for an indeterminately long
moment of now. That's kind of how 'void' is."
My take on it is that we may focus on mental feelings (e.g. mental fatigue)
instead of jumping and pushing for a physical manifestation (e.g. burning
chests, pain in the back). When we can stay with the mental feelings for an
indeterminately long moment of now, those feelings tend to transform into
physical ones and we may then encourage the sender to develop on that
physical feeling, until the feeling goes away and leaves the sender with an
Aha. The key here is to stay with the mental feelings and not ignore them.
However, the part that I'm confused on (and have expressed my concerns with
my tribe leader) is whether the manifestation of a physical sensation is
an important step for the process. Looking back at old FAQ, you mention:
Ed Says: A tribe can help you stay on task while you
parse your feeling into physical components such as pressure, temperature,
size, texture, sound, etc. The Trading Tribe Process is to re-formulate your
concern about wanting to succeed as a physical feeling, and then to work
toward fully experiencing it. As the feeling disappears, it leaves insight
and wisdom.
When my tribe leader asks the sender to locate physical feeling and the
sender can only feel mental exhaustion but nothing physical appear, I don't
know whether it helps the sender more by repeatedly asking him for color /
texture / temperature of a physical sensation, or just stay with his mental
exhaustion, a mental feeling which he cannot locate it physically. And if it
is the latter, how can we as receivers help the sender, who is stuck and
unable to manifest his feelings into physical components?
I appreciate your clarification. Thank you.
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Willingness
to accept a stuck state, such as the void, dissolves it.
You
might check for willingness to experience it ... if your sender is not
ready, help him locate the feeling of resistance and make that the item.
The
Void State can have some positive aspects for those who embrace it:
There was once a
man in a kingdom renowned for his insights and wisdom. People just felt
something special when they were near him. The king heard of his reputation
and summoned him to his Court.
"I've heard
you are a great, wise man. Tell me what you know."
The man replied,
"I don't know anything."
The king said,
"well what have you experienced?"
The man replied,
"inside, I am just a vast void, which goes on eternally with no
beginning and no end."
The king,
perplexed, said, "so why do they call you a wise man?"
"I don't know," he replied.
Experiencing
Stuck-ness
dissolves
it
Clip: http://web.mit.edu/tetazoo/
www/img/calvin/stuck.gif
Fable: by Easan
Katir |
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Mon, 1 Mar 2004
Workshop
Dear Ed,
I am very very very excited right now as I communicate with my manager my
intention to attend the workshop. He asked, "If you can have six or
seven
days away from the office this year to attend conferences / workshops, will
this be the one?" Without a single moment of hesitation, I say, "YEEEEESSSSS!"
And he said, "OK, done."
So I am writing to ask to reserve a place for me for the workshop. My admin
assistant is out of the office for the next two days, but upon her return
she will complete the paperwork and send the payment immediately.
In the meantime, I
am working on the pre-workshop assignment. If there's any extra assignment,
I'd love to know. So far answering those questions already gives me a lot of
insights on some important issues I never seriously consider. I am having
great joy doing it.
Thank you so much!!!! I can't express how overjoyed I am!!!!!
P.S.
I'd prefer a non-smoking room please.
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See
the Workshop page for instructions about how to register. |
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Mon, 1 Mar 2004
Reno Workshop
Hello Ed,
I'm from Munich in Germany and follow your FAQ for more than half a year. I
would like to attend to the Reno workshop in may. Please reserve one place
for me. I prefer a non-smoking room.
Is it possible to pay with credit card - American express or Master Card?
I'm not sure if
I can send a cheque. I want to pay all in advance. Can I scan in the
workshop description with my signature and mail it to you?
I recognized that the description of the workshop has changed since I read
it the first time. Especially the pre-workshop assignments are different. I
was wondering if the focus of the workshop has changed, too?
Kind regards, |
Yes,
the May Workshop includes additional materials and processes.
You
can scan the description, or simply print it out.
It
looks like you get one extra pre-workshop exercise in financial skills,
namely: learning how to send a check.
Lowell
Milken Family Foundation
Giving
Ceremony
Sometimes
a Check
works
better than a wire.
http://www.nps.k12.va.us/
news/milken/check.jpg |
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