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Friday, June
19, 2009
Long-Term
Changes in Tribe Members
Dear Ed,
As I walk down the hall to our tribe meeting this week I see members of
our tribe standing outside the room talking and I think of the contrast
of how they look now compared to how they looked the first time they
attended one of our meetings. The way they hold their body, their facial
expressions and movements.
I feel happy and satisfied to see the improvements each has made for
themselves by participating, exploring their feelings and working on
issues in their lives. I also feel the changes I have made and then
realize that they no doubt see these changes in me also.
As the meeting
went on I wanted to write you and thank you for continuing to make this
work available to others and keeping it alive.
Thank you Ed,
you have been a blessing to many people you may never even meet or ever
be aware of. |
Thank you for your support. |
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Friday, June
19, 2009
Salesmanship
see:
previous
Dear Ed,
Thank you for your kind insults.
What makes you think I enjoy being called a whiner, arrogant, guilt
tripper, nazi, imprecise person?
I had a simple request that you send me a sample trading report and in
return I get a string of sarcastic and rude responses.
You have failed to realize that I am trying to help you, and perhaps
taking offense to someone offering to trade your funds for you as
opposed to asking you to trade their funds for them.
I have calculated my 8.5 year ACAGR to be 79.88% which is double that of
Mr. Warren Buffet and is NET of withdrawals.
Your reactions perhaps indicate you regard me as a threat to your "God
of trading" complex.
Nice of you to try to give me a complex too. But I assure you I don't
require one at the moment.
The first
tribe meeting will be spent on portfolio optimization improvements
rather than figuring out the motivations for your insults.
I wonder what you will call me next?
Recent trade:
Long trade opening bought 1000 [Symbol] @ 315.1 (extremely bad fill at the days high).
I am reducing size and activity during summer months probably until end of
August. |
I recall receiving a stream of
trades (maybe about one per day) from your "system" that do not tie to
any kind of brokerage statement. I do not see any back-test to explain
the trades. I find the trading frequency rather high. I find the
"probably until August" somewhat arbitrary for a system trader.
My request to you for an equity line
and supporting monthly statements results in your making excuses and
whining.
You are now apparently responding
with feelings of rejection and anger.
You might consider taking your
issues around selling your money management services to Tribe.
Perhaps you can learn to respond in ways that might motivate potential
clients to open accounts with you.
Such is the work of the Rocks
Process.
I do not know of any money managers
who succeed in opening accounts by whining at clients.

Whining is Typically a Resource
in a Medicinal Rock
Clip:
http://media.photobucket.com/image/
whiner/scottoberg/whiner.jpg |
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Friday, June
19, 2009
Looking Like Ben Franklin
Dear Ed,
Your experiments are so smart, your even starting to look like Ben
Franklin with your glasses on. But a more fit Franklin.
Congratulations on your work, and I look forward to the new book. Thank
you for your site, and continue to persevere in the face of opposition.
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Thank you for your support.

Fake Benjamin
The real Benjamin
in on the "real" 100 dollar bill.
Clip:
http://www.ben1776.com/colonial.htm |
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Friday, June 19, 2009
Still Wants
Tricks
see:
previous
Dear Ed,
I do not want tricks. I want to know what you spoke of in Market Wizards
as typed below!
Would you ever tell me what it was you were speaking about in that
interview?
No one in my
Tribe has made 250,000% I want to.
You can say 'No' if you prefer. |
I'm not clear what you are after. |
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Friday, June
19, 2009
IVTT Meeting Follow-Up
Dear Ed,
A wonderful
meeting. A great thing happened to me - I met you guys - and now you are
stuck [with me].
Please send
any contact information you might want me to have, and beware, I will
use it.
This Spring 09 Tribe has been one of the most wonderful things I've ever
experienced. You guys made me feel wonderful. I can't really explain
what a precious gift you have given me, to be included in your group.
For one thing I feel smarter than I've ever felt in my life, more
focused, and just well really great.
I've made some
giant leap forward- I don't even know how to explain it. So I guess I'll
just let it unfold in the NOW. |
OK. |
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Wednesday,
June 17, 2009
Likes
Questions
Ed says,
"You might consider taking your feelings about
<communicating largely by asking questions> to Tribe."
(FAQ, 6/15/09,
"Communication Forms")
LOL! I guess I am still stuck with Ed's FAQ (which as of June 1-10, 2009
it is still formerly "Frequently Asked Questions"). I wonder when
you change it to Frequently Appearing Questions.
Well, I feel very good when people ask me questions, or even challenging
my assumptions. I learn a lot from the process. In fact, I think it's
genius of you to have a FAQ forum, which I'd like to model after. I
wonder how it feels to receive so many questions from people all over
seeking your wisdom. |
OK. |
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Wednesday,
June 17, 2009
Co-Workers
Become More Friendly
Dear Ed:
See Below
I just wanted to share that Jerk IT guy came to my desk after the
pathetic, jealous co-worker encouraged him to start communicating in
harmony with me.
The Friendly IT guy help me to a great extent yesterday
and the A friendly co-worker wish me a good luck for this trip to Reno.
Totally different outcome.
The
controlling, dictating, beautiful assistant is hard to know if it's a
drama. She was working on charity today. I may have huge judgment about
her. Thank you for all your sharing. |
OK.
I'm not quite sure what you are
saying.
You might consider having someone
check your English before you send emails. |
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Wednesday,
June 17, 2009
Influence
Dear Ed,
You are
include amongst some other heavy weights.
Clip:
http://www.michaelcovel.com/influences/ |
Thank you for the link. |
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Wednesday,
June 17, 2009
Wants a
Format for Presenting Results
Hello Ed,
I can provide you with the information you need, but require a sample of
the format-layout you prefer my trades to be displayed as.
Please email me a sample so I can prepare the report for you, it will
take me several months to input the data as my recent trades are not
logged.
If you do not have a real intention of following this through, I prefer
that you inform me sooner rather than after I invest this time to make
the report.
Calling me arrogant is not exactly fair, as I have been sending my
trades as I do them to prove my ability, which I felt you had some
doubts about.
I have told you several times that I will stop sending them if you ask
me to stop, and as you haven't, then I am continuing to send them.
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As preparatory for "pitching" your
services, you might consider:
1. Catching up with your data
logging and reporting,
2. Defining your trading rationale,
3. Preparing a performance summary
and charts to show your MAR.
You might also consider taking your
feelings about <fairness> and <whining> to Tribe.

The Theory of Fairness
is generally a ploy
to justify re-distribution.
from those who have
to those who whine.
Clip:
http://www.pocketparent.com/child.jpg |
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Wednesday,
June 17, 2009
Wants
Software Recommendation
Hi Ed,
Can you recommend a computer programming class or course or language I
should learn that would be beneficial for the trading realm … for
developing or testing a trading system … or is there some retail
software you recommend? .... i need to test some ideas to see if I have
a edge or not but am not sure how to go about it … |
If you are just starting out, you
might consider using Excel as a way to help clarify your ideas and
to explore how back-testing works.
You might also consult the TSP link,
above.
Once you have an idea where you are
going, you might be more able to determine which software fits
you. |
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Wednesday,
June 17, 2009
Feedback on
the Milk Model
Ed,
The more the Milk Model evolves in the now, the clearer and the best it
is.
I did not understand anything the first time I was in front of it,
mainly last week. Now I do.
By replacing "the pour rate" by "flow", and by changing the "spigot"
with this white tap with the green button, I find it definitely clearer.
And thank you to explain things in a such clear and simple way. "Trend
following" is totally right when it says that you speak with the
correctness and accuracy of the words.
The demonstration Cause and Effect from Eco-Now-Mics is the most useful
thing I learn for a while.
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Thank you for your feedback.
It is helping to steer the project. |
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Wednesday,
June 17, 2009
Rocks
Process & Universal Resources
Ed,
A Short note -
Re: Rocks Process
One of the steps involve canvassing the tribe for resources.
Participating is this process many times and then in Reno in April, I
think that you have identified some 'universal' resources:
* Empathy for the other (s) in the 'scene.'
* Staying conscious/awake/attentive
* Accessing Creativity
Then reintroducing a small percentage of the original behavior, the
process supports:
* Choice |
Other Frequently Appearing Resources
are:
Sharing feelings.
Receiving others' feelings.
The rocks process provides a way to
implement these resources naturally and automatically in response to
emotions. |
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Wednesday,
June 17, 2009
Thanking the Firing Boss
Ed,
I have [an] issue with my ex-boss. I worked in another bank and he
offered me a job with his company. After three months and in spite of
the crisis (Aug-Dec 08), we did a good job and he still fired me.
Before the Workshop I was upset because he offered me the job and after
three months he fired me!
After the
workshop, I thought about what exactly was it that I wanted to do, what
my real desire is Money Management.
I called him
to say thank you and invited him to have a lunch with me and he always
gives excuses and i say it is ok if he does not want to have a lunch
with me. |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Wednesday,
June 17, 2009
Feedback
Loop
Ed,
In the general field of Dynamic System, what is feedback loop exactly?
What would be another name of "feedback loop"?
Is the feedback loop the information of one element of the system in the
now or is it something else?
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A feedback loop is a structure in
which the signal output from each element feeds around through the other elements and back to itself.
The Feedback Loop is the basic
interactive structure in EcoNowMics.
You might consider working through
the exercises on the EcoNowMics pages to get a feel for feedback,
feedback systems and feedback loops.

The Signal Output Feeds Back
to Modify the Input
Clip:
http://www.morning-earth.org
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Tuesday, June
16, 2009
Reading
Historical FAQ's
Hi Ed,
I thank you for your support. I continue to review my Big Wave and
achieve further clarity. I have an "AHA" moment when I focus on reading
FAQ 2003.
It is so
powerful an experience that I read FAQ 2004 immediately.
Focusing on
the FAQ increases my clarity about the TTP processes and trend
following. The insights and teachings in FAQ is more than any book
volume can ever contain and I thank Ed for this resource.
I have a significant draw down in my ET activity but I recover.
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OK. |
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Tuesday, June
16, 2009
Aha!
Dear Ed,
Today I fully comprehend the word "experience".
Why do you think the natural tendency is to resist experiencing than to
simply experience and achieve?
Success is inevitable.
Thank you very much yet yet yet again!
You are Awesome.
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I do not usually respond to "why"
questions - or other invitations to invoke the causal model. |
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Tuesday, June
16, 2009
Copyright
http://www.seykota.com/tribe/faq/
2008_Dec/15/Lebensweisheiten.pps
Please remove it IMMEDIATELY. There are 3 photos, copyright protected.
I?m the photographer and gave NO permission to use it. If you don?t
respect my copyright and remove this file, I?ll contact my lawyer.
Kind regards,
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I am happy to remove the item.
If you wish to protect your work,
you might consider applying a copyright notice to it.
When you contact your lawyer, you
might point out to him that his profession rests upon the the notions of
blame and guilt and that these, in turn, rest upon the causal model.
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Tuesday, June
16, 2009
Intention
Empowers In-Vitro
Ed,
My wife and I commit ourselves to the goal of having a child. We have
fertility issues, so we acknowledge it's a long-term project with an
uncertain result. After a few years we seek assistance, and resolve to
pay a lot of money if necessary.
We experience our feelings when we are stopped out on our first three
IVF (In Vitro Fertilization) attempts. We begin to doubt that we will ever succeed, although
there is no known medical reason why we should be failing repeatedly.
Our doctors claim to be surprised, saying they thought ours would be a
straight-forward case.
They say that there are probably undetectable
factors preventing us from conceiving. My wife is very upset. I feel
inadequate and empty, and frightened for our relationship.
I think about some of the wisdom I have read on the Tribe website. I
suggest to my wife that as a "straight-forward" case, with an estimated
50% chance of success on each attempt, we may be experiencing a series
of unfavorable "coin tosses." I demonstrate this by repeatedly tossing a
coin, which comes up heads eight times in a row.
We stick with the plan and pull the trigger. On our fourth IVF attempt,
we catch a big wave. We couldn't be happier:

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Congratulations!
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Tuesday, June
16, 2009
Wants
Tricks
Ed,
Can you point me in the right direction to learn more about "expert
trading rules" and "tricks of the trade"
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You might consider taking your
feelings about <wanting to know tricks> to Tribe.
You might also consider mastering
the essentials of trading. |
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Monday, June
15, 2009
EcoNowMics
Ed,
Ed says, "You might consider working through the
examples on EcoNowMics" (FAQ 6/14/09, "Control, Intimacy and
Progress")
I did already, and I want to say that it's very cool. Congratulations on
the work and your progress.
I like the Tracker java applet. Without reading the text I was playing
with it, and I notice how increasing the lag while lowering the TC makes
the chart a sinusoid, much like the pendulum. Then I realize how
important the feedback process is in life. When people criticize us,
they are giving us an immediate feedback. Most people ignore the
criticism because "it hurts their feelings", and they end up going in
circle and making the same mistake over and over. Now I see that, beyond
the feelings, there is actually a lot to learn and I start to appreciate
the direct feedback people give me (through various forms).
I am also interested in the term "gain" (inverse of time-constant). This
is the first time I heard it used in such a way - I suppose it is some
system dynamics jargon? If TC = Time to Reach Target, then the inverse
of it is kinda like a frequency? It is interesting that we call it
"gain."
Lastly, thank you for introducing me to a whole new perspective on
management. I love it and I feel a sense of wonder.
I look forward to reading the rest of the EcoNowMics, thanks!
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Although frequency-framing and
time-framing may be mathematically equivalent, I prefer "frequency" to
the reciprocal, "time."
We tend to think of color (blue) and pitch
(A-440) as frequencies, not as time or distance between waves.
We tend to think of repetitive
events in terms of frequency. Your heart rate might be between 60
and 120 beats per minute. You have breakfast once per day.
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Monday, June
15, 2009
Spotting
Issues
Ed says, "You might consider taking your feelings
about <inconsistency>, <ambiguity> and <irritation> to Tribe."
Thanks for your help in bringing up my feelings about inconsistency and
ambiguity, and acknowledging and receiving them even when I am not aware
of them until you say so.
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You are welcome.
One of the principles of the Tribe
is that we can assist each other in spotting issues. |
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Monday, June
15, 2009
Communication Forms
Ed says, "You can also make progress by learning
other communication styles" (FAQ 6/15/09, "Control, Intimacy and
Progress")
"Aha". Sorry I was slow. I did not notice you use "Move to Another Form
of Communication" as the subject to my original question instead of
"Progress" until I read your answer to my
follow-up question.
OK great, it seems like you have some new discovery here. I am
interested in learning other communication styles. Can you please tell
me
more what they might be and perhaps some examples?
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You might consider taking
your feelings about <communicating largely by asking questions -
rather than by sharing feelings> to Tribe.
Here is a website with some forms of
communication:
http://www.musicalenglishlessons.org/
vocabulary/communication.htm
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Monday, June
15, 2009
Wants to
Talk
Dear Sir,
I read your interview in the Jack Schwager book and ever since have
dreamt of talking / corresponding with you. I know it's kind of
far-fetched for someone like me, but it's just a dream. I'm visiting and
I'll be here for a while. I was wondering if you'd spare a few minutes
to talk with me. It will mean a lot.
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OK. |
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Welcome
Forest Gate
(London)
England
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Monday, June
15, 2009
Sixteen
Tons
Dear Ed,
I thought you
would enjoy this:
Clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=Hj01Sqi0zic&feature=related |
Thank you for sharing this clip. |
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Monday, June
15, 2009
Milk Model
Java Applet
Ed,
I notice the improvement in the Milk Model java applet.
I recall a week or so ago that the rate control slider seems overly
sensitive, and now the slider sensitivity feels controllable. Perhaps
the delay
between time steps is slowed now, giving the user of the application
more response time.
I like the feel of the control now.
I notice the issues with the "ghosting".
I am open to
helping you with development. |
Thank you for your comments and your
offer. |
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Monday, June
15, 2009
On The
Margin
Dear Ed,
I was looking
at the Support Resistance System - Margin in the TSP and I have a
question regarding the Margin calculation.
When reviewing the trade on Mar 26, 1976, I notice the position size is
12,600 units or $8,686,440.00. Based on the 20% margin requirement in
the program the amount of money you would need to execute this trade is
($1,737,288) greater than the amount that is shown in the equity log on
Mar 26th ($983,065).
I have managed to duplicate the results using 0% margin, but when I
enter the 20% margin in the system test screen my results differ. Can
you advise if the calculation is based on zero percent margin. |
The simulation does not include a
margin monitor.
In general, you might find futures
margin to be around 5% of contract value - with occasional periods in
which the margin can be much higher, even over 100% in some cases. |
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Monday, June
15, 2009
His
Wife's View of TTP
She Likes
It
Dear Ed,
I mentioned to Ed that my wife has a Master's degree in Clinical
Counseling with a specialty in Family Systems. Ed asks what changes my
wife notices since my involvement with TTP. Below is her response.
****
Since last summer [Name] has been, and still is, undergoing a powerful
transformation. He is doing serious work examining and bringing about
change in his life, ambitions, goals, and personal road blocks. Not only
is he examining these things, he is actualizing these things with growth
and continuing success in his personal and professional life. This new
path is enlightening for him, for us as a couple, and for our family,
and is bringing us greater happiness.
[Name] is working on these things with Tribe and in his daily life with
increased communications and clarity that he previously lacked. At times
all this change is difficult for him as he is actively challenging and
reframing a lifetime system of behavior patterns and beliefs. I believe
when your brain is used to firing neurons along a certain pathway, and
you spend a considerable amount of time thinking and behaving in certain
patterns, as that pattern changes and broadens it is a challenge to keep
from slipping back into the old, comfortable patterns. [Name]'s new
found deep awareness of this helps him to consciously broaden his lens
when certain triggers tempt him to relapse into older patterns and
narrower perceptions.
As his wife I support and enjoy his growth. I enjoy the increased
awareness he has, and enjoy the increase of clarity and depth in his
communication skills in regards to his feelings and goals. [Name] is
experiencing an increased awareness, and he is actively changing the
things in his life that he has found no longer work for him, or get in
his way. He is more relaxed and happier in many aspects, and has
prioritized his life in a way that better suits him. When he spends time
with our son he is fully accessible, attentive, and enthralled by him.
Of course this change is an ongoing process that is not always smooth. I
believe he is experiencing true growth.
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Thank you for sharing this
information. |
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Monday, June
15, 2009
Control ==>
Intimacy
Relationship with Wife Improving
Dear Ed,
As I announced, I was in [Country] for 6 days; hence, I am sending you
the report of the last two weeks.
I observed some further progress in my responses. I try to ask myself
“how do I react from an intimacy perspective” as frequently as possible.
When I do it, I am receptive to the feelings of the other person and I
can also talk about my feelings while I avoid manipulation. The process
is turning smoother and more automatic. This is the nice part.
I also experience a major improvement in the relationship with my
wife.
Frequently, as
I try to show her my affection, she expresses rejection. This happens
again, and I get really mad. I am so furious that for minutes I ask
myself what to do. I experienced this situation frequently before; for
years I carried the feeling of anger the whole day and engaged myself in
endless drama. This time I talk to my wife about my feelings. As I tell
her how angry I am, I start crying. I feel desolated. I tell her that I
cannot stand the feeling of being rejected when I try to show her my
feelings. I keep on crying. After some instants, I enjoy it, I laugh,
and I feel elated.
Then, I can
explain to her very calmly that I try to show her what I feel for her,
and that I don't know what to do when she turns away or shows rejection.
She is not annoyed or freaked out.
She listens
to me. It is not the first time that I tell her about the problem, but
it is the first time that she understands how I feel.
I observe that
I have problems with the issue “rejection”. I wonder how my wife reacts
to me when I resolve this issue on the Hotseat.
The bad part is that I experience several situations in which I react
instinctively, and in this case I do not accept the feelings of the
other person or express my own feelings. This happens several times in
[Country].
However, we
have a very long and very intimate talk with my sisters and my mother
about our troubles. My mother tells me about her most intimate problem,
for the first time. The only person she told about it before was a
psychologist (who obviously did not help).
I am not quite satisfied with the results, but I see progress and I keep
on working. Since my Tribe does not carry out the Rock process, next
week I visit the Tribes in [City] and IV.
I thank you for the feedback and for your support. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider taking your
feelings about <rejection> to Tribe.

Rejection
The positive intention
is guidance toward another path.
Clip:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_
cZ0ofZdz2V8/ScZTZWIcyqI/AAAAAAAAAo0/
y2KYudcThYk/s320/rejection2.jpg |
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Monday, June
15, 2009
Voluntary
and Involuntary Intention
Ed,
For about 30 years, I have never taken responsibility for the unpleasant
results I got. I've always blamed others and things when I got an
unpleasant result. Of course, when I got a pleasant result, I was the
unique cause of my success: no luck, no thanks to others, no thanks to
things, just and only thanks to me and my smartness and intellect.
About my intentions, I notice that I always made one distinction: my
voluntary intention and my involuntary intention. Moreover, what I
called "intention" was actually a "wish" in the non-existing future, not
at all "the structure of my system" now in the present.
Finally, thanks to you great Chief, I understand that what I call
"voluntary intention" is what my conscious mind tells me, and what I
call "involuntary intention" is what Fred tells me to do.
That is to
say, I thought for 30 years that I was not responsible for my Fred and I
notice that many people still think in that way.
Indeed, we may waste all our lives by not taking responsibility.
Intention is just Intention, there is not "voluntary" intention neither
"involuntary" intention: intention is intention and nothing else.
For 30 years, I was in a wrong direction.
I'm afraid
when I think that I may have not met your knowledge and experience. And
today I love to feel this fear. |
Thank you for sharing your process.

People who Claim
their Results differ from their Intentions
and that someone else is to blame
reveal their real intentions
are to blame.
Clip:
http://www.poppendieck.com/
graphics/blame.gif |
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Sunday, June
14, 2009
Ambiguity
and Irritation
Hi Ed,
Thanks for your answer.
Ed says, "The More You Obsess about Progress, the
more loopy you get." (FAQ 6/5/09, "Move to Another Form of
Communication")
I totally agree with that statement. It is what prompts me to ask you
about Progress in the first place.
However, it seems that measuring progress is inherent in the Big Wave
Process, for we specifically come up with measurement criteria to keep
track of our progress.
Moreover, measuring progress also seems to be inherent in all tribal
work as we test for willingness, as you mention in "Willingness Testing"
(FAQ, 12/14/08), "Sometimes people say they are
willing to do the work and then they do not do it and they do not make
progress." (It seems that we use their result of no progress as
an indication of
their real intention - which is unwillingness to do the work)
So my questions are:
1) Do you think it is a better trade-off to stop taking measurement on
our progress, or is it a necessary part in TT works?
2) In the 9/23/03 FAQ, you mention that "Things
you measure tend to improve", does it apply to progress?
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You might consider taking your
feelings about <inconsistency>, <ambiguity> and <irritation> to Tribe.

Trying to Rid the World of Ambiguity
is one good way
to justify feelings of irritation.
Clip:
http://i.zdnet.com/blogs/then-a-
miracle-happens.gif |
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Sunday, June
14, 2009
Control,
Intimacy and Progress
Hi Ed,
I have two questions on Control / Intimacy. In many cases you mention
about a) moving from control-based to intimacy-based relationship
(e.g. FAQ 6/9/09, "Noise"), while other times you'd say b) it is a
balancing act between the two (e.g. FAQ 6/10/09, "Sending and Receiving
with Children").
While I understand that the statements need not be mutually exclusive,
my questions are:
1) If there's a continuum where on one end is control and on the other
end is intimacy, do you see it our target as absolute (strictly moving
towards intimacy, as (a) seems to imply), or do you see it more as
relative (we need a combination of control and intimacy, so likely
somewhere in between), as (b) seems to imply)?
2) If it is a balancing act as you say, I wonder how come I never seem
to recall you mentioning moving from intimacy-based relationship
towards a little more control (i.e. when we "overshoot" on the
intimacy), whereas I see that many times you'd talk about moving from
control-centric to intimacy-centric)?
I appreciate your clarification, thanks.
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You might consider working through
the examples on EcoNowMics.
Progress can have a couple of
meanings.
You can
make progress within the loop by moving toward the goal (filling the
glass).
You can
also make progress by staying in the now, observing your
glass-filling policy and allowing it to evolve.

In Matters of Complaining and Arguing
You can make progress
by complaining loudly
and by winning arguments.
You can also make progress
by learning other communication styles.
Clip:
http://www.tailored.com.au/uploaded_images
/angry-child-719078.jpg |
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Sunday, June
14, 2009
Errors
Hi Ed,
In "Wants to Overcome Shyness" (FAQ 12/13/08), you leave the
contributor's name.
In an untitled post (FAQ 6/10/09, between "The Good, The Bad and the
Ugly Black Tie Ukulele Concert" and "Rolling Convention for 210 Day
High / Low Donchian System and Execution Rules"), you leave out any
response
|
Thank you for the catches. |
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Sunday, June
14, 2009
Lift of
Auto-Rotating Plant Seeds
Hello Ed,
I think you might find this interesting. I read an article in
Spiegel-online about the lift of rotating plant seeds.
Clip:
http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/
content/abstract/324/5933/1438
Maybe it contains some useful information for you to work on your theory
of radial momentum. I really like the new page about radial momentum on
the FAQs.
I also wonder if you think that one can learn to get a "feel" for the
markets.
|
Thank you for the link.
People tend to have very little
trouble getting feelings about the market. You might consider
finding ways to adhere to sound trading principles when these
feelings arise. |
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Sunday, June
14, 2009
Becoming
Aware of Feelings
Dear Tribe;
Report for the week of June 15th.
This week my account value changed by <.20%> I happily was stopped out
several times and happily bought back in. I'm not happily higher- but I
did save myself some money and losses. I'm a tiny bit sad - if all
losses are sadness, but content that my losses weren't much, much worse.
I am here to make Money.
I am noticing this week that I'm getting attached to some of my better
performing stocks. I observe my attachment. I remind myself that stocks
are not people. It seems like a lesson I should have absorbed long ago-
but here it is. I need to relearn it.
FAQ days 5
Gym 7
Yoga 5
German 5
Travel 3
Further, I am
depressed and felt that the world is coming apart, I feel overwhelmed.
Then I am realizing that my mother died on this day - a long time ago.
|
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Sunday, June
14, 2009
Health & Fitness
Dear Ed,
I notice the support you receive with regards to weight loss and getting
into shape as I catch up on recent FAQ postings. I would also like to
support you on getting into shape.
I am a former "fat boy". I struggled with being overweight for most part
of my life. Since 2001, I managed to change that. I go to the gym
regularly and maintain a clean, healthy diet. The change in lifestyle
also changes my life positively in many other ways. I have some of my
best insights while exercising.
I take a systematic approach to achieving my fitness goals. I have
attached some of the training/nutrition plans I follow, which I got from
various sites and adapted to my personal circumstances.
I do not claim expertise in the area, but health and fitness is another
subject of great interest to me.
I am more than happy to support you on your current exercise / nutrition
plan or work with you on developing a system that suits you which I can
also support you on following.
I am very excited about supporting you on your book and look forward to
focusing my efforts on this project.
I enjoy the
tracker article and think of the effects of failure in feedback
mechanisms particularly in the case of pitot tubes on airplanes which
come to light following the recent Air France incident. |
Thank you for your support.
|
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Sunday, June
14, 2009
Making
Lemonade from Lemons
Dear Ed,
A great realization just came in the moment of NOW. My contrarian
behavior and success in the stock market has come mainly because of lack
of support, guidance and family bonding in my childhood when I had to
choose independently what was best for me under those circumstances and
ensure odds in my favor.
I took
decisions based on what I felt was best for me given the lemons I was
handed over continuously. I did what was fat pitch at that point of NOW.
I now see the positive side of lack of support and bonding.
"Aha!!"
Thanks ED for
this awareness. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider the positive
intention of the feeling of lack of support. |
|
Sunday, June
14, 2009
Staying in
the NOW reduces Stress.
Dear Ed,
I have finished all my office / work related clutter based on Bill
Gates’ one remark about Charlie Munger. I am now focusing on clearing
house clutter and then on to mental clutter. Clearing clutter has helped
me to be in NOW.
Your guidance
about NOW is helping me. I have realized why I am attracted to Trading
Tribe. It is because of a lack of family support, bonding and very
difficult circumstances during my childhood. It is deprival syndrome and
craving for teamwork.
I am a
contrarian guy and have always taken independent decisions, but the
bonding craving is still there. I now accept that craving the way it is
and have observed that it is losing its power over me.
I met one of
your Trading Tribe members recently and was amazed to see the difference
in his attitude. Noticed how calm he is. Your FAQ has to a certain
extent become a platform for people to express their inner feeling and
get support and guidance in the NOW. Just like how Warren Buffett has
helped many investors with his clarity, your guidance is helping many
people in the moment of NOW.
I am still not
a trader but have decided to become one and so I am reading and learning
a lot. I have organized life in such a way that I can devote much more
time towards learning.
I am also
seeing myself moving towards intimacy-centric relationships and it is
reducing my stress. I see myself mixing more with people who do not make
my stomach churn or take my advantage. I know the tendency is just to
avoid pain and distractions. I just love that decision. I am hoping to
become a [Country] Tribe member soon. |
Thank you for sharing your process.

Worrying About
the Non-Existing Past and Future
disappears in the moment of now.
Clip:
http://americanretirementsolutions.wdfiles.
com/local--files/start/Worry.png |
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Sunday, June
14, 2009
Engine Runs
on Less Alcohol
Dear Ed:
I hope you are well. I am impressed with the New Economic Section. Thank
you for sharing your valuable knowledge.
Since the last IV meeting, I have been kind of spaced out for a bit. I
guess in a positive way. After all the workshops and rock processes, I
feel like the last rock process was the deepest one I have ever
experienced and certainly the most tough dealing with. I am going
through adjustment everyday. I am glad and feel fortunate that I
cornered myself in to getting to the rock and replacing with the
proactive one. With a help of you and other tribe members.
Things that touched me the most was when you actually shared your
feelings to role player. In this case was a "Pathological Jealous
Mother". During the willingness testing, Ed process manages me in to
identify in to finding the root rock that is controlling me. I like to
point out I got to corner my self in to this situation as hot seat and
willing sender by keep measurement of my progress of bumper sticker and
or Big Wave. By measuring, the truth will prevail. So I have problem. I
have a glitch in my system and I want to fix it.
I corner myself and Ed and the tribe is there to support me with my
willingness. One thing for sure, even with your willingness, unless
there is support from your tribe members, it is impossible in my opinion
to share your feelings during role playing. By feelings, I mean true
feelings. Before the last IV meetings, I participated in a local tribe
meeting and had done the rock process and one of the proactive rocks was
"Share True Feelings" This was a big one for me. This contributed to the
IV rock process. Ironically, one of the new resource I got during the IV
rock process was "Be Creative and Combine" so that worked out very good
for me"
Going back to share true feelings, during the rock process, Messenger
provided me with a brand new proactive rock. I accept the rock. Now we
start role playing again and there is the opportunity to share your
feelings, however initially I maneuvered and said something different
and try to explain instead of sharing feelings. Messenger and process
manager keep guiding me to get back on track to share true feelings. I
keep maneuvering to something else and yet messenger keeps and helps me
back on track to share feelings.
Ed is the
process manager and he finally gets me down to either sharing my
feelings now or I am wasting everyone's time and we stop the process. I
pause for a moment and decided to face my mother and started to share my
feelings:
I am embarrassed
I am upset,
I am very SAD
finally I am very DISAPPOINTED
I like to
point out Messenger keeps helping me to say to my mother "It's mine"
"It's mine" "It's mine" over and over again to her. I feel this gave me
a tremendous resource and "Aha's". I notice that I lost everything
before. My money, my house I mean everything. Now I am trending up again
and I tell you right now "it is mine" and I am keeping everything and I
will own.
I notice me
working in the brokerage firm is a drama. The Firm will end up or
position itself to take everything you worked for anyway. When I came
home to my apartment, I realized that I don't have anything - so I end
up buying some nice furniture to claim as it's mine.
When I got back to work, I noticed a lot of things that I did not
noticed before. A co-worker who is pathologically jealous and angry at
me doesn't seem to feel that way towards me. I do notice him trying to
engage others to feel that way. I also notice some people act in certain
ways toward me so that I feel sad and disappointed.
IT guy at my
work is a great example, he is very friendly and smiling all year until
you ask him to help with some computer trouble, he becomes this total
jerk. He even told me do it myself. After a little drama exchange in
email, I end up telling him that I am very disappointed with him and
told him Good Luck at the end of email. I felt so good after that. I
felt like a million bucks.
My sales assistant came back from maternity leave and she looks very
happy. She asked me if she should work with me via email and I shut down
for few hours and basically told her I would.
Wether this is
drama is not known. She portrays herself to be a powerful, dictating,
controlling beautiful woman, however I suspect she is not. I know she is
more professional than my secondary assistant when it comes down to it.
So I feel OK with my decision. She was very happy about it. My true
feeling is, I like working with her. I even want her to come with me
when I start my hedge fund.
Right now, I don't feel the urge to look for girlfriends and all that. I
feel like I just want to enjoy being at home and adjust to taking care
of myself first. My urge for alcohol has become less than one. I
don't over eat anymore either. I just eat when I feel necessary.
I like a nice meal at a restaurant every now and then. I don't feel
scared to receive women's feelings anymore. I notice that I don't throw
trash on the street anymore. If I do I pick it up immediately and make
sure I throw it in the trash can.
Despite my mother's abuse, I don't feel any bit of hatred toward her. I
love her more actually. She was a good mother after all. My father too.
They did their best.
During the process manage, I tell Ed "She's got to stop!" and Ed tells
me "No you have got to stop!" Yeah the bottom line is you want change in
your life you have got to change yourself.
To be honest I felt intensely distant at the check in last IV meeting. I
wonder why. Probably because [Name] was not there. I was not feeling
like I wanted to write to FAQ because I was feeling isolated but [Name]
called me today and he shared some encouraging story about his big wave.
I was very happy for him.
He encouraged
me to go out to socialize, I had a party to go to but I ended up
sleeping. I have just got to find some other way to meet women. I
just don't enjoy being around alcohol anymore. I am OK though, I am
sure I'll meet the right girl soon. I feel at peace and that's most
important to me right now.
It's a long email and I like to end soon. I bought a DVD called Planet
Earth produced by BBC. It shows all the cycles on earth. How the animal
kingdom works. I guess its part of system dynamics. I used to think I
was a lion in a previous life, but I guess humans are a collection of
animals. Sometimes like a lion and sometimes like Sonja from this clip.
See Sonja
eating worms:
Clip:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Th199ySVdU
Thank you for reading my email. I thank you for everything.
|
Congratulations on cutting back on
alcohol and on becoming more comfortable receiving women.
You may notice various women who
like men who are sober and emotionally available circulating in your
vicinity.
At some point you may become aware
that one of them is special.

Connections Occur
when you allow them.
Clip:
http://honeymoonsinc.com/UserDyn/
Honeymoons/couples_swept_away_hammock.gif |
|
Saturday, June
13, 2009
Critical
Damping
Ed says,
"The most efficient design for a tracking servo
generally includes some overshoot. For more on this, look up "critical
damping."" (FAQ 10/26/08, How Much is Too Much Speculation)
Thank you for your answer to my question. I look up "critical damping"
on Wikipedia. It says, "A critically damped system converges to zero
faster than any other, and without oscillating."
So I am not sure if how the most efficient design would generally
include some overshoot, when the critically damping converges fastest
and without oscillation. Am I misunderstanding you / wiki, or if wiki is
incorrect in their definition? |
You can experiment with damping with
the Tracker Model on the EcoNowMics pages. |
|
Friday, June
12, 2009
Testing
Software
Hi Ed,
I have a back-and-forth tug-of-war with myself and with my Tribe mates
over my commitment to be what I say I want to be in the future. And over
what my exact intentions are.
I feel
exasperation because I feel others don't understand me and because now I
feel I am "doing it wrong."
I want to go
hide and cry and feel sorry for myself. Sometimes, I want to die and it
gets scary. I have a lot of emotions and have tried meditation to calm
them. I have practiced since college and it has helped a great deal.
However, now because of health issues, I cannot practice regularly.
I try to take
the hot seat very often to help me deal with my emotions and I try to
"feel my feelings" throughout the day, but I find that I quit very
easily and jump to another method that might be able to help me.
I flip-flop. I
never really flip-flopped with meditation because I really believe in
it. I guess as of yet, I really do not believe in TTP. I will keep
working on the hot seat to see if I have a major "Aha" that convinces me
of TTP's power.
I also want to ask you about simulation software. I have been working
very diligently on custom software programmed in C#. Since I am
currently unemployed, I have been able to work on my software for about
60 hrs a week for over a month and a half now. I have made great
progress and learned a great deal about programming.
However, I am
becoming very antsy to start back-testing systems, yet I still have a
long way to go in developing the software. I found a post of yours from
Feb 2006 where you state that "To simulate interactive portfolios with
multiple systems, multiple instruments, multiple entry and exit points -
that also respond to upswings and drawdowns in equity, you may have to
write your own simulator." It seems to me that you felt at that time
that available software was inadequate and I agree with you.
However, there
now seems to be available a software that does all of these things and
also lets you custom program additional features.
I wanted to
ask you if you think there are any benefits beyond those mentioned in
the quoted post above to building one's own software.
As of now I am
very much itching to buy the software (that is, if the trial version
satisfies me) and use my C# programming skills to build supplemental
programs, such as a data scanner and control charts. However, I also
feel that if I were to start my own fund, potential investors may be
less willing to invest if they know I use out-of-the-box software.
I greatly appreciate your input. Thanks so much! |
Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider taking your
feelings about <wanting to calm your feelings> to Tribe.
Current versions of commercial
software can do a pretty good job of back-testing and even live signal
generation.
You might encounter some
difficulties coordinating "to the penny" with an actual trading account
and / or calling your C# library.

Death
The Ultimate Method for Calming Feelings.
Clip:
http://www.clipartheaven.com/clipart/
holidays/halloween/tombstone-clipart.gif |
|
Friday, June
12, 2009
Programming
Dynamic Systems
Hi Ed,
I follow the iThink system structure to complete the exercise.
Following my initial confusion I do some reading around negative
feedback and I come across the following statements in Study Notes In
System Dynamics by M. Goodman:
The concept of control entails goal orientation;
Goal directed action is fundamental to human social behavior.
I find these
two statements that give me an important "Aha" and get me thinking about
the power of system dynamics and how it can be applied to almost
everything.
I am happy to arrange the simulation into an article in HTML for posting
to the site or discuss how to proceed from here onwards. |
OK. I am open to contributions to
the EcoNowMics pages. |
|
Friday, June
12, 2009
Trading Insight
Hi Ed,
I just had an insight I wish to share. Trend Traders are often in
winning positions when the positions correct against them. For years I
would agonize over these moves against me, knowing my system would not
sell as the market fell lower.
Often I was correct on my imaginary counter trend trades
during these corrections, so I thought I may as well try it out and save
a little money. Often times I would sell a portion of my long as the
market fell, and I would be temporarily correct, the market would then
decline more. Then it would stop declining and move higher again. In the
best case scenario I would identify a point to buy them back and it was
usually above where I sold before.
So the trend continues and I end up losing a little money
on what was a well timed sale. And since corrections happen more often
than trend reversals, I could save a little money on a trend reversal,
or put the position back on at a possibly much higher price. The
behavior I displayed was a counter productive bad odds play. Yet it
often felt good because I got to “call the reversal” if I was right.
I no longer feel this way. In fact I see the positive
intention of corrections can be to inform you of how strong the
underlying trend is.
Now when I watch my portfolio decline with winning positions, I simply
observe. I no longer feel angry or upset, or feel like I need to prevent
it. AHA |
OK. |
|
Friday, June
12, 2009
Brother and Sister / Sending and Receiving
Ed,
You might like this.
gesto_de_amor1.wmv (Movie)
This video only takes about 15 seconds to watch and you'll see why it
won 1st place at Cannes.
It is brief and beautiful. |
Thank you for the clip. |
|
Friday, June
12, 2009
Major Breakthroughs
Hi Ed,
Thank you for your ongoing support.
This is quite a lengthy report. I am awe-struck by the power of the
TTP-Workshop experience: I can report to you a big breakthrough!
I achieve an important milestone in my life, namely, the confidence part
of my Big Wave.
My Big Wave = The confidence to be spontaneous / myself.
During the past month I experience a steady increase in my confidence:
A) I feel less and less anxiety when intending to talk to
strangers;
B) Negative reactions from other people have less and less effect on me;
C) I feel steadily less uncomfortable when looking someone in the eye
D) I have an overall feeling of confidence in my body (hard to define).
I notice
that all these qualities are hard to measure, so I realize that I might
be deluding myself.
However:
On Friday, I go to a live music venue with my girlfriend. I intend to
talk to several strangers as part of my big wave, and I actually do so
too. Then I see two women at the bar. One of them has a lot of silicon
in her body. Not just in her chest, but, from what I gather, also in her
buttocks (Yes, this is [city] ).
She has a beautiful face. More
importantly, she has an aura of “Don’t you dare approach me!”. I briefly
discuss with my girlfriend whether her butt is real or fake. Normally I
definitely avoid approaching unsympathetic-looking or intimidating
people. But now, I feel my new confidence. I also feel a strange feeling
in my knees.
And I am curious whether she has butt-implants or not. So I
walk right up to her, look straight into her ice-cold eyes, and ask
whether she has any idea how much butt implants cost. She says: “please
talk Spanish”, so I repeat the question, part in Spanish, part sign
language. When she gets it, she starts to giggle, and consults her
friend. Finally she says: “This is all natural”. So I say:
“Congratulations, you are very lucky then”. Then I excuse myself and
walk off.
The whole interaction takes maybe a minute or so. But it feels like a
major victory. This is definitely the most intimidating woman I ever
walked up to in my life.
The next three days I have a funny feeling in my head. A sort of
tingling on the right hand side, as if a previously inactive part of my
brain has been activated. I also feel happy and extremely confident.
June, 1: I go for my weekly run on the beach. During a walking break, I
am getting teary-eyed, totally out of the blue. I am touched by the
quality of my life. All of a sudden, I accept it the way it is, and I
see the quality of it; to live as free as a bird. This is the life that
suits me; I just didn't know it yet.
At the end of my run I am thirsty. Normally I just KNOW that I am
thirsty without any specific feelings. But now, I actually notice the
feeling of thirst. A dry feeling from the back of my mouth all the way
down to my stomach. This is a first for me! (side note: I still haven’t
experienced the feeling of hunger yet).
Later that day I chat with my girlfriend. She notices how extremely
talkative I am. She asks me if I am on drugs!
June, 3: I have a giggle attack. Basically I can’t stop laughing about a
silly thought. I laugh for maybe 20 minutes. I can’t remember the last
time I did this. Definitely several decades ago! I also feel the feeling
of laughter in the part of my stomach where the muscles tense. So THIS
is laughter! Funny, I used to laugh with my mouth only. Now, my stomach
is joining in.
June, 4: Back in [Country], I notice subtle differences in how I
interact with people. It definitely confirms my increased confidence. I
notice how extremely shy most people in [Country] are. Although I used
to be like that, now I find it silly. I don't feel shy anymore. In fact
I now feel like I have something precious and rare in my possession.
June,5: I go out with my girlfriend. When she is away to the bathroom, a
woman makes a negative observation about me, saying, “Wow, you sure look
moody, don't you have a good time?” This type of negative perception
from a stranger used to bother me a lot. But now I think: “Your
statement says more about yourself than about me.”
And I really feel that way. It's not a 'learned' feeling, but an
automatic one.
I suppose this is TTP at work.
June 7: We go to my cousins for dinner. I notice how many stories I am
telling. And I enjoy telling them. There is an enthusiasm I never feel
about my own stories.
--------
OK, so it looks like I achieve the confidence part. I intend to
consolidate this confidence by continuing to do the things I measure in
my original Big Wave.
Thank you all for supporting me! Once again I realize how much I missed
support in the past.
But I would also like to ask your ongoing support. I wish to define
“spontaneous / myself”, as this is important in order to be able to
achieve it, as [name] rightly pointed out to me.
With spontaneous / myself I don’t mean everything I already am, but
specifically the missing part. To me, the missing part is my sense of
humor and my creativity.
With sense of humor, I mean my own speech which fulfills the following 3
conditions:
1) I say it spontaneously (without previous thought)
2) it surprises me
3) it makes me laugh
I had a
period in my life when I was so unconcerned with the next day or even
the next minute, and with people’s perception of me, that this sense of
humor occurred on a regular basis. However, when I TRY to be funny, it
doesn’t work of course. It has to be spontaneous and unintended. And
there has to be a complete neglect of the future. No planning, no
anticipating, no deep thinking. Totally letting go of the future.
Basically living by the senses, living in the NOW, and following the
natural attention, instead of forcing it in un-spontaneous directions. I
have to get rid of this forced attention, the one they taught us at
school, and let attention once again float freely; free like a
butterfly.
Another missing part of being spontaneous / myself, is my being creative
(creativity = finding uncommon solutions for everyday problems).
This is another part I used to have, and lost along the road. I presume
creativity and sense of humor go hand in hand.
So I think my task, in order to achieve spontaneity, is to totally live
in the NOW.
In order to live in the now,
A) I need to plan less, and live more “on-the-fly”
B) I need a lot more faith in my spontaneous judgment. For example, when
I go to the doctor, the dentist or the accountant, I should go there
totally unprepared, without rehearsing what I am going to say.
C) …
In case
you have other suggestions on how to achieve spontaneity and totally
live in the NOW, I’d be more than happy to hear from you.
Once again, thank you for your support! |
Thank you for sharing your process.

Implants are Real Too
(real implants)
Clip:
http://playgirlmag.files.wordpress.com/2008/
04/breast_implants_in_us_are_filled_with_sa.jpg |
|
Friday, June
12, 2009
Strategy
and System
Ed,
By reading your Great encyclopedia site, I notice that you rarely use
the word "Strategy." Where people may use the word "Strategy," you use
mainly "System" or "Process."
Now I prefer "system" to "strategy" whatever I do. I feel that I am more
in the now, whereas I am more in the non-existing future with the word
"strategy" or "tactics" (short term of strategy).
The elements of the system exist right now; the elements of strategy
seem to be in the non existing future.
According to your meaning, what is the difference between "Strategy" and
"System?" |
I think of a strategy as a set of
rules for converting information into action. In the milk model, a
strategy and a policy are similar.
I see your "System" as the overall mechanism that
contains your "strategy" plus the rest of the feedback system that
surrounds it. In the milk model, the policy is part of the
feedback system. |
|
Thursday, June
11, 2009
Manipulation
Hi Ed,
In our last meeting I play the Hotseat's manipulative mother. I find it
easy to make him feel guilty. I notice that I really enjoy pushing
Hotseat's buttons and winning our little "rounds". Momma didn't raise no
fool. I feel proud of my skill, even if the skill is manipulation.
I wonder if I can have such great skill without ever using it.
As soon as I think about it, I notice that I'm saying to wife, "Will you
hate me if I ..." where I really mean "I want to ..."
I notice that while my parents manipulate me, I have ways of
manipulating them as well. I know where their buttons are, and I push
them.
I am grateful to the Tribe for helping me act out, and so become aware
of, my own manipulative behavior. |
Thank you for sharing your process.

Travelling the Path from Control-Centric
to Intimacy-Centric relating
tends to bring out many insights
about manipulation.
Clip:
http://www.robertbrownanimation.com
/manipulation.jpg |
|
Thursday, June
11, 2009
Want to be
Part of the Tribe
Hi Ed,
I live in [City] and I want to be part of a Tribe. As there is none in
the vicinity, I am requesting to start a community. |
See the link to Tribe Directory,
above for information on starting a Tribe, including preparing a TTID. |
|
Thursday, June
11, 2009
Tribe
Meeting Report
Ed,
I report about an interesting tribe meeting. I am visiting the Tribe in
[City]. My sister is among the participants. She takes the hot seat and
I manage her process. Her issue is “I procrastinate when I have to make
a decision”. She starts talking and mentions “changing things shows that
something is not OK, and I always have to show that everything is OK
with me”.
As she says
that, her eyes glance and I start crying bitterly. She is very surprised
about my emotional outpour. I mention that PM and hot seat frequently
echo each other, and I am just reflecting how she feels, since she does
not allow herself to show feelings.
I ask her for
willingness to work on the issue. She shows a first form (rubbing her
finger). I suggest
her to increase it. However, the process does not progress. I try to
find the issue. Is it to change things? To decide? To show that
something is not
perfect? After a long trying, we find the issue: “I do things for people
to like me / people do not love me for what I am, but for the things
that I do”.
She is very distressed, and I ask her if she agrees that I accompany
her, being with her in her struggle.
In my view,
this is the most intimate form of support: I feel the same that hot seat
feels, and I am there holding its hand and walking with hot seat while
it carries out the process. I just mention that it is OK to feel that
way, that she can feel more of it, and that I am there with her. No
drumming, no noise at all. Nobody speaks.
However, as every time that I do it this way, the process is very
intense. She completes the form. I feel the release of tension in my own
body and, as I ask her how she feels, she reports that the feeling is
not there anymore.
We check out. As I check out, I start talking about my experience and I
start crying. I cannot hold it, and cry for a long time, until it feels
joyful. My sister checks out as last one and reports about her feelings
and her surprise about my emotional outpour. I tell her that by working
on her issues she is healing me and all people in the room, and I am
very thankful for her courage.
I take the hot seat with the feeling “I have several important issues
right now, and don't know where to begin”.
I show a form
that appeared several times before: rubbing my eyes with my hands. The
process manager is inexperienced (as everybody in the Tribe) and does
not know how to proceed further.
However, I
firmly commit to not control it. I cannot go further, but I want to
finish the issue. I think about a Rock process, but that should mean me
telling PM what to do and managing my own process. I don't know what to
do. I am very surprised as PM suggests a role playing.
I re-enter the process, I show the form and suddenly realize what it
means: I am lying on my stomach, covering my eyes in fear, and my father
is beating me with his belt. I mention that and ask PM to hit me with
his belt. He does it bravely, I really feel the hit, but do not say a
word, since I do not want to control the process. After some hits I
experience an explosion of anger, stand up and shout (addressing my
father) “stop that son of a ***- stop that son of a*** - stop that son
of a ***” several times.
And then, I
experience an outburst of fun. I start laughing wholeheartedly and fall
to the floor. I
cannot stop laughing. I mention “Well, the best answer in such a
situation is to release a flatulence”. I think about my tiny butt as a
little child and the possible reaction of my father. It is extremely
funny and we all laugh.
During the checkout, my sister mentions that as I start shouting “stop
that …” she sees several situations of physical and verbal abuse by my
father, as if it were in a movie. The verbal abuse was for her much more
painful.
By taking her issue to the hot seat, she heals me, and I do the same for
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Thank you for sharing your process.
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Thursday, June
11, 2009
Istanbul -
Turkey Tribe Update
Hello Ed,
The TTID registered for Istanbul Tribe is an older one. Could you please
change it with the attached one?
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OK. |
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Thursday, June
11, 2009
Milk Model
Tutorial
Dear Ed,
I do some work on the model and work through my confusion. My confusion
comes from the system structure diagram. For some reason I see this as
positive feedback all the time and keep asking myself what am I missing
as this is not the behavior of positive feedback! I feel a bit
embarrassed to ask as I consider that I have a good understanding of the
work.
I get fixated that this is positive feedback structure, the flow into
the level throws me off. It looks like not only do we get what we want
from life we sometimes see what we want as well.
I learn through my confusion and I am back on track.
I intend to send my work through as soon as possible. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
I'd like to supplement the models
with feedback, such as yours, to add another dimension to the site. |
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Thursday, June
11, 2009
Levitator
Ed,
I just read the new Levitator section. Great job! I laugh a little at
the bottom of the page when I read "The End (for now)." Stay after it,
Ed. I admire your commitment and perseverance. I find the pictures very
helpful and think some video might be beneficial as well.
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Thank you for your support. |
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