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Thursday,
August 14, 2008
Blaming Father
Hi Ed,
Thanks for all your wisdom!
After thinking about my losses and other aspects of my
life, I know a major reason of my failures is due to my
psychology. I believe I have this due to a very unsupportive,
negative father, who subconsciously wants me to fail.
Maybe I am failing because I want to make him happy. Can
my mindset be changed and how?
Bye |
You might consider taking your feelings about <failure> to Tribe.
If what you really like to do is lose and
blame your father, then you are getting what you want, and that might
count as a win.

The Secret To Success
is knowing whom to blame
for your failures
Clip:
http://www.norcalblogs.com/
bullfight/archives/blame.jpg
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Thursday,
August 14, 2008
Dealing with Loss
Ed,
Thanks for your sharing your feelings.
Take care, |
You are welcome. |
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Thursday,
August 14, 2008
Sorry About Sadness
Ed -
Some of your recent entries reference sadness. I am sorry to hear this.
Have you ever seen the movie Idiocracy? Opinions vary but I thought it
was profoundly hilarious. You may wish to check it out if you find
yourself in need of some levity. By way of disclosure, it may also have
some thought provoking moments regarding thoughts that are, well, not so
funny (the movie distributor ultimately decided to suppress most of its
theatrical release, but it's available on DVD). On balance it's about 85
minutes very well spent.
I don't know if a positive intention of sadness is to elicit movie
recommendations, but there it is, for what it's worth.
Take care and hope you feel better soon. |
Thank you for your concern.
I'm OK.
I cherish my sadness and wouldn't want to
miss experiencing a minute of it or distract myself from feeling it with
funny movies.
I am calling a special Tribe meeting to help
me experience as much of it as I can.
In the case of that particular movie, the
premise is actually pretty close to what we already have now - so the
movie might be useful to support sadness after all. |
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Thursday,
August 14, 2008
Grief Cycle
see: Early Warning System
Hi Ed,
Best wishes in experiencing your emotions and thank you for
demonstrating that challenging times are an integral part of achieving
right livelihood and being human.
Thank you also for posting the Kubler Ross grief cycle. I find this very
useful and get a couple of Aha’s by reading pieces of Elizabeth Kubler
Ross work on the internet.
Regards, |
The only emotions that bother me seem to be the ones that I am unwilling
or unable to experience in the moment of now.
The Tribe and the Healing Field of
Acknowledgement are essential support in working through the resistance
and in converting feelings to insights.

The Tribe Can Help Convert
Resistance
to insight
along the path to

A Place They Call Aha
Clips:
http://www.chesskids.com/level2/defend.gif
http://36chambers.wordpress.com/2006/12/05/a-trip-to-the-schluchtsee/
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August 13,
2008
Liquid
Capital Flows
Dear Ed,
when reading the quarterly report of bank of int'l settlement basel then
I think of a scheme of international capital flows.
Have you ever worked with such flow scheme or do you use such scheme as
visual for imagination?
I think of a limited basin of water. The bottom of the basin is flat.
Always when one "region of asset class" grows then the bottom gets
deeper and allocates more water as it takes the flow from other regions
of higher ground level, from dryer regions. The model has the advantage
that through volume it displays the 3 dimensions of space. |
One approach is to identify all the levels and all the flow rates
between them. Then define the rates as a function of the levels.
You can develop your model by recursively
simulating the behavior and checking against the real world.

Feedback Model
for a bucket with a hole in it.
If Rate = Level / Time_Constant
Level decays exponentially. |
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Tuesday,
August 12, 2008
Early Warning System
re: Uncomfortable
Feelings
Ed Says: Pain is a function of resistance to
experience.
An early warning system, like the lump in your throat, could be saying
beware pain may be on the horizon.
Check out the "Fight or Flight" reaction --- when feeling
threatened adrenaline increases in the body causes physical feelings of
nausea (throw up food just eaten so blood is not pooled in the stomach
for digestion so can use all the energy reserves to run or fight) or
needing to urinate / deficate (diarrhea & gut wrenching feeling) so can
run.
Abuse or Trauma (PTSD) in the past can intensify these
feelings when threats are perceived.
And this quote by Edison...
“There is great value in disaster. All our mistakes are burned up. Thank
God we can start anew.”
What is a mistake? If life is experience in the now what could be a
mistake? |
Yes, in TTP, we hold all feelings have positive intentions.
In my own case, I am dealing with sadness, disorganization, denial,
anger, longing, feelings of worthlessness and lack of joy.
In experiencing this process, my family,
friends and Tribe are invaluable.

Dr. Elisabeth Kübler-Ross
Learn to get in touch
with the silence within yourself
and know that everything in this life
has a purpose.
There is no need to go to India
or anywhere else to find peace.
You will find that deep place of silence
right in your room, your garden
or even your bathtub.
--- Dr. Elisabeth Kubler-Ross

The Kübler-Ross Grief Cycle
Denial, Anger, Bargaining,
Depression, and Acceptance.

John Bowlby
formulates Attachment Theory
and identifies the ebb and flow
of processes such as
Shock and Numbness,
Yearning and Searching,
Disorganization and Despair,
and Reorganization.

John Bowlby's Attachment Theory
Attachment is a special emotional relationship
that involves an exchange
of comfort, care, and pleasure.
Bowlby describes attachment
as a lasting psychological connectedness
between human beings.
Bowlby claims
that early experiences in childhood
have an important influence
on development and behavior later in life.
Our early attachment styles
are established in childhood
through the infant / caregiver relationship.
Bowlby also claims
that attachment has an evolutionary component.
It it aids in survival.
The propensity
to make strong emotional bonds
to particular individuals
[is] a basic component
of human nature.
-- John Bowlby
Clips:
http://www.chiffandfipple.com/
cf8-2-03/elisabeth.jpg
http://www.nobullyforme.org/
images/kublerross1.jpg
http://www.psychotherapyconsultants.co.uk/
orientation.html
http://psychology.about.com/od/
loveandattraction/ss/attachmentstyle.htm |
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Tuesday,
August 12, 2008
Dealing with Loss
see: The Day After
Ed,
I just read your post on August 8th regarding how you
felt the day after your birthday and I just wanted to send you my best
wishes.
Dealing with loss and separation can be difficult even if
you ultimately learn lessons from the experiences.
I know you have many friends and tribe members to support
you, but if there is anything I can do please feel free to ask.
Take care and I wish you well. |
Thank you for your support and willingness to assist. That is the
essential attitude of TTP.
My friends, family and Tribe are providing
precious support in staying in the moment, experiencing this passage,
noticing AHA's and staying in the flow of right livelihood.

Grief - The DIM process

Grief - The Sharing-Feelings Way
Clips:
http://www.phpc.org/clientimages/
29712/diaconate/grief210s-w.jpg
http://bbsnews.net/bbsn_photos/
Israel_Palestine/corrie_friends_grief
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Sunday, August
10, 2008
Choices and Making Decisions
Dear Mr. Ed Seykota,
I am contacting you because I wish to join your Associates Program to
gain a deeper understanding on the development of trend following
mechanical trading systems.
I hold the bachelor degree in electronics engineering and I graduated on
June with the Ph.D in microelectronics engineering from [University]. In
addition to working toward my Ph.D, I have been using my entire spare
time to educate myself on the financial markets using the economist,
financial times and financial literature. Also, I have your Trading
Tribe book and plan to read it in the next 1-2 weeks.
Having traded unprofitably my first mini-FX account, loosing $500 out of
$770, I realized the need for rules in trading and I investigated
trading systems. I have been heavily influenced by the Market Wizards
and I abandoned academia to pursue my passion for the markets and
mechanical trading systems. Recently I programmed in Matlab the
exponential average crossover system, the support-resistance system and
I have attached the results in this e-mail. Unfortunately, at this time
I am not trading and I do not have a database available to complete the
'Trends' exercise, and the copper and crude oil data to complete the
'Diversification Study'.
I wish to improve my knowledge on trend following mechanical trading
systems and I want to join your Associates Program. My goal is to become
a professional trend-following systems developer/trader and I need your
help and guidance.
At the moment I have the option to attend a 12-month ... risk management
and financial engineering programme starting on October, and gain formal
qualification that would allow me into interviews and hopefully a job as
quantitative analyst. However, the [course] will cost $47,000 and there
is no guarantee the job market will be in better condition when I
graduate on September 2009.
Finance has been too fashionable and there may be
oversupply of finance graduates to fill the available positions
presently and in the near future. I could defer the [course] for
12-months (or not do it at all) and focus on self-education and the
development / optimisation of trend-following and possibly intra-day
mechanical trading systems. Then I would trade the systems with my own
capital and make a track record. Alternatively I could get a position at
a proprietary trading shop and perform research and trading to gain some
practical experience. These are my thoughts.
I would be grateful if you could point me to a path; how would you
proceed if you were in my position? Thank you for your time and
consideration, I need you help and I hope to hear from you. |
You might consider taking your
feelings about <choices and making decisions> to Tribe.

Conundrums
may indicate resistance
to experiencing uncertainty.
Clip:
http://www.wittysparks.com/
2006/08/23/confusion-within/
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Sunday, August
10, 2008
Uncomfortable Feelings
Hi Ed,
What is the positive intention of uncomfortable feeling? Thanks. |
In TTP, we hold that all feelings
have positive intentions.
Discomfort indicates a judgment
about the feeling and unwillingness to experience it.
In Tribe meetings, we can assist
each other to dissolve our judgments, experience our feelings and
harvest their positive intentions.

Pain is a Function
of resistance to experience
Clip:
http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/
news/923/gene-responsible-pain-discovered |
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Sunday, August 10, 2008
Moving On
Hi Ed,
I am no longer the owner of my retail Italian Gelato store.
Ed,
with your help and support, I manage to sit tight and wait through 1.5
years of my business being up for sale; the deal finally closes on June
1, 2008 : ).
I am now enjoying a 2+ month sabbatical from working 7 days
a week which refreshes my mind and re-energizes my soul. I am now ready
to continue with my ultimate intention of creating a world class
investment company.
Ed, I am now comfortable with the equities trend
following system that I design and am ready for the next step of
creating an investment vehicle, getting licenses, contacting
professionals in the industry, and begin raising money.
Ed, at this
point I feel that something is holding me back. I draft an email that is
to be sent to [Name] at [Firm] and it sits on my desktop
unsent. [His] office is relatively close to where I live, and I
wish to follow your advice with respect to beginning in the business by
"hanging out with traders" and contact him and include some of my
equities research in the email.
I know that deep down in my heart that
right after I "start" things will progress nicely, right now I feel at a
crossroads or roadblock. Up until this point I have been thinking about
trading for years, trading my own account which is undercapitalized, and
testing, this next step seems to feel more real and I do not wish to
re-experience the last 3.5 years of getting stuck in my retail business
that I could not get out of.
I then think to my self that this email I
have unsent in my computer is similar to risking a lot of my equity on
one trade or even putting to much thought on the next girl that I wish
to go on a date with, I feel that this email I am going to send out is
make-it-or-break-it for some reason.
I attempt to undo this stuck-ness
pattern by thinking about the large number of years I will be in the
investment business and how this initial email will only be 1 out of
thousands of communications I send out, this somehow calms my gut and I
now see the parallels to system trading many numerous smaller positions
instead of the one big trade strategy.
Lol, even after writing this paragraph I feel better.
Thanks Ed for all your help, your work helps me get through 3+ years of
a painful franchise operation with an irrational franchisor of low
integrity. I feel much freer to take control of my own life now. PS. Ed
I will forward some of my recent equities research to you ASAP. |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Saturday,
August 9, 2008
Marathon Project Update
Dear Supporters,
I did meet my distance goals for the Marathon last month. My goal for
this month is to add an additional 1.5 miles to my distance.
The weight loss has been slower than I would like. I've lost 11 pounds
in 3 months, versus my goal of 15. Most of that weight was in the first
month. Up to this point I have not been dieting; but now I've made a
commitment to my local tribe to cut out sugars for a week. I will likely
cut refined sugars for a larger time, but will probably have some
'wiggle room' in a longer term plan.
I also think that my running schedule has not been as regular as it
should be for continued success. This will need to improve for me to
continue to reach my goals.
Thank you all very much for the support. |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Saturday,
August 9, 2008
Wants a Free Book
Dear Ed Seykota,
Can I please get a free copy of your book. I now this sounds lame but I
am
only 20 and I only have 700 dollars that I am investing in the stock
market
right now.
I feel that If I have your book I could become a better
trader,
because once I heard about you in the Market wizards book I
automatically
became a fan of your trading style. |
You might consider taking your
feelings about <not enough money> to Tribe.
You might also consider investing
what money you have in your career. |
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Friday, August
8, 2008
Aviary Aphorisms
Ed,
Something for you.
BirdsandSayings1.pps
(2441KB) |
Thank you. The last one seems
curiously applicable. |
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Friday, August 8, 2008
Happy Birthday
Ed,
Here are some things for you.

Black Mountain Rag
Eddie
Adcock, Sam Bush, Vassar Clements, Jerry Douglas |
Thank you for the eye and ear candy. |
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Friday, August 8, 2008
The Day After
Hi Ed,
How do you feel on the day after your birthday?
I am thinking of you and
sending love and support. |
I am still experiencing emptiness,
sadness, frustration, remorse, guilt, nausea and anger, among other
things.
I am willing to keep experiencing
these things, and to learn many lessons from them. I am
implementing many new resources.
I am also developing great
compassion for people who are in process of separating from primary
relationships.
I am also deeply grateful for all my
friends and Tribe Members who are supporting me on this path.

Separation With Unwillingness
Let me RUIN your LIFE.
Let me BREAK your HEART.
Let me RIP your WORLD into LITTLE PIECES.
Let me DESTROY who you THOUGHT you were.
Then I'll ask you why can't
we be friends?

Separation with Willingness
Clips:
http://x59.xanga.com/
9eac7b13c4333136439940/z92283574.jpg
http://img2.travelblog.org/Photos/
13426/121158/t/833069-Moving-On-0.jpg |
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Thursday, August 7, 2008
Reflections the Essentials Workshop
I thank Ed, Charles, and all
workshop members for the learning I experienced at the Executing the
Essentials workshop.
I really like the Fredian Psychology chart and am quite intrigued and
amazed how my mental experiences follow it very closely.
My mind
"functions" more clearly and efficiently now as I let each part of my
mind do its component part of the mental "flow" or "mental system". I
spend much less time medicating myself or asking a part to do a job it
is not designed to do.
I consider this knowledge of myself very
valuable, the result of years of close observation and study of myself,
and all confirmed and extended by a simple investment into the
Essentials Workshop.
I now easily try to achieve fully every moment and my intentions are
easy results more often. Life is grand.
Thanks again to everyone, I wish you fulfill your own personal bumper
stickers! |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Thursday,
August 7, 2008
Last Night's
Tribe Meeting -
Fighting In Front of Kids
I sent you a FAQ on July 18
2008 about an abusive father. I read my entry and then glanced over to
the picture you posted of a man and woman and felt an immediate
sensation of fear and anxiety.
I planned to take these feelings to my
tribe meeting the next day. At the tribe meeting I had a desire to
experience these feelings but during the first hot seat another member
was doing all of a sudden I had an ah ha during his session about those
situations I experienced as a child.
I had always blamed my dad for
coming home drunk, starting trouble and causing turmoil in the home -- the
old cause and effect he is the one to blame thing.
My ah ha was that
this was not something he did alone. He liked to get drunk but when he
came in the front door mom would not leave it alone. She would start in
on him and then the fight was on with us kids just hoping it would stop
soon and no one would get hurt too bad.
As one member pointed out there
was a system in place where he would do his thing and then she would do
hers escalating the fighting. After I realized this a big smile came on
my face and I felt free again.
I had never thought of these situations
before as a system where each one played their own part in the build up
and final explosion of drama. As I look back now a response that may
have worked more to her advantage could have been to just let him sleep
it off and then have a conversation with him the next day about how she
felt about his staying out late without a phone call and then coming
home drunk. |
Thank you for sharing your process.

Couple Who Do Not Receive Each Other
tend to Fight
Couples who fight in front of kids
train them to do the same.
Clip:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/property/
graphics/2008/02/23/pdivorce123.jpg |
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Thursday,
August 7, 2008
The Positive Intentions of Failure and Loss
Ed,
I work on
feelings of lack of courage in a TT session. I have some AHAs to share
with FAQ readers. Failure and Loss normally bring people negative
feelings, such as pain, anger, frustration, and so on.
People also are
unwilling to experience those feelings, so they regard failure and loss
bad and try to avoid them.
But negative feelings of failure and loss have positive intentions:
They tell us that something is not working or doesn't function properly
any more, let it go.
We might be able to learn something from our mistakes that cause the
failure and loss.
We might study more in the areas that we are undertaking.
Failure and Loss are the part of a process. We might embrace them.
Willingness to experience feelings of failure and loss gives us the
courage to trial and error and can help us to learn from failures and to
grow.
A Chinese saying that I like: Failure is the mother of Success.
Best wishes to you and your family. |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Thursday, August 7, 2008
Happy Birthday
Hi Ed,
Happy birthday! Hope you're doing well with everything.
Hope you and the kids are well and that you enjoy today to its fullest.
My best, |
Thank you. |
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Thursday, August 7, 2008
Happy Birthday
Happy Birthday Ed.
I hope all is well and you enjoy
the day with family and
friends. |
Thank you. |
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Thursday,
August 7, 2008
Happy Birthday
Special Treasure
Dear Ed,
Happy Birthday, Special Treasure
God gave a gift to the world when you were born—
a person who loves, who cares,
who sees a person’s need and fills it,
who encourages and lifts people up,
who spends energy on others
rather than himself,
someone who touches each life he enters,
and makes a difference in the world,
because ripples of kindness flow outward
as each person you have touched, touches others.
Your birthday deserves to be a national holiday,
because you are a special treasure
for all that you’ve done.
May the love you have shown to others
return to you, multiplied.
I wish you the happiest of birthdays,
and many, many more,
so that others have time to appreciate you
as much as I do.
By Joanna Fuchs
Happy Birthday Ed! |
Thank you. |
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Thursday,
August 7, 2008
Happy Birthday
Chief
Hi Ed,
If there's something that
you're dreaming of then may it all come true, because you deserve it
all ... HAPPY BIRTHDAY.
Your birthday is a special time to celebrate the
gift of 'you' to the world. Hope your Birthday gently breezes into your
life all the choicest of things and all that your heart holds dear
Have
A Fun- Filled Day, because Birthdays Bring Along A truly wonderful
chance to leave aside every care and simply enjoy.
Have An Extra - Special one.
PS: Whatever with the past has gone, the best
is always yet to come. |
Thank you. |
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August 6,
2008
Happy Birth Day
Ed,
Happy Birth Day.
Wish you happiness, long healthy life and continuing
prosperity |
Thank you. |
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Wednesday, August 6, 2008
Meditation as
Cause
Hi Ed,
Ed says, "In the Extreme, Meditation can become medication and
interfere with trading." (Meditation and Hypnosis, 7/16/08)
Ed says, "I do not have any evidence that Meditation is the "cause"
for "good" or "bad" trading." (Meditation as Cause, 7/21/08)
I am not sure if I follow your statements. The first statement seems
to suggest that, in some (extreme) cases, meditation may interfere
with trading.
Interfere, according to American Heritage Dictionary, means to be orcreate a hindrance or obstacle. If something interferes with your
trading, I suppose it isn't "good"?
Do you have evidence how meditation may interfere with trading?
Also, please note that in my original question (7/21), I never mention
that meditation is a "cause" for "good" or "bad" trading. My question
merely asks if you've practiced meditation, and if so, what are the
results you notice.
This is similar to you asking people the results in their life after
practicing TTP. I don't think you mean that TTP is a "cause" for
people for "better" or "worse" trading, do you?
Thanks. |
Causality has different meanings
depending if you are viewing it from the System Model or the Causal
Model.
In the Causal Model, brakes cause a
car to slow down.
In the System Model, brakes cause a
car to go faster along a winding road.
Interference with trading can
produce "good" or "bad" results depending on if the trading is going
"well" or "poorly."

The Function (Purpose) of a Thing
depends a lot
on your point of view.
Clip:
http://www.bira.org/images/qqpic2.jpg |
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August 6, 2008
Jet Flies Upside-Down
Would the jet fly into the ground w/ the traditional Bernoulli
explanation?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XScqNPU9uGs
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Planes that fly upside down provide
more evidence against the curvature = lift theory. |
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August 6, 2008
Hi Ed,
I want to share a situation that happened between my wife and I. We were
in bed for the night and I could sense that she was frustrated and
upset. I asked her if she wanted to share her feelings and it seemed
that she was frustrated. I did not just go to sleep and let her figure
out her issue alone. Likewise, she did not say "leave me alone" or
"don't worry about it." Instead, she shared her feelings of being upset
and frustrated. She also said that her neck and shoulders hurt so bad
that she probably wouldn't be able to get any sleep.
I thanked her for sharing. I didn't try and fix her. I didn't try and
make her feelings go away. I just wanted to be there for her.
Once our exchange was over, I relaxed and realized that this time was
different than the countless other "going to bed and wife is upset"
situations. This time I realized I would sleep better, she wouldn't cry,
etc. At that point I noticed my wife was already asleep.
Thank you for your help,
Rich |
Thank you for sharing your process.

An Ounce of Receiving
is worth a ton of fixing.
Clip:
http://att.iparenting.com/preconception/
nowwhat.htm |
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August 6, 2008
Wants to Attend Breathwork
Hi Ed,
Happy Birthday Ed!
I hope my email finds you in good health and whipping gout out of your
system.
Its two years since the Breathwork weekend, probably one of the most
amazing and memorable weekends I have ever had, an experience I think
about almost on a daily basis. It opens me up to many Aha’s and personal
insights since then. I want to truly thank you for that Ed as you have
put me on a personal quest to discovering myself and what it is I truly
want out my life - a confusing and difficult journey.
Do you plan to have another Breathwork weekend?
Thank you for being a great teacher and role model. I wish you all the
best on your birthday.
Regards, |
I host Breathwork Weekends in
response to demand from Workshop Graduates. If I hear from a few
more people that they would like to attend, I can announce one. |
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Tuesday,
August 5, 2008
Dear Chief Ed,
Hope all is well with you and the family...
Wish you a very Happy and Healthy 62 in advance of 7th Aug.
Sincerely |
Thank you. |
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Sunday, August
3, 2008
Workshop Feedback #2
Confusion
and Humor
Ed:
At the TTP
Workshop, my bumper sticker is "Decide, Commit, Do."
When working
on that intention through the TTP process, I experience extreme feelings
of anger. After the anger is expressed, I experience strong feelings of
confusion.
As I
experience those feelings of confusion, I recall an instance in first
grade when I cannot learn how to tie my shoes. The other children have
figured it out, I cannot, and the teacher is moving on to the next task.
I am embarrassed that I do not know how to perform the task. I do not
ask the teacher to stop and explain it again. I pretend like I know how
to do it, but I do not.
When I
return home from the Workshop I recall other instances where I
experience the same confusion.
When I am very
young, perhaps between the ages of 5 and 8, I recall on several
occasions striking myself in the head with a short wooden rod after I
"make" my parents angry.
When I am 10
years old I suffer a concussion while playing a game with friends. When
I am 11 a baseball strikes me on the side of the head during little
league practice. At age 12 I suffer another concussion while playing
with some friends at recess.
During all
of these instances I have the same feelings of numbed confusion.
As I grow
older the moments of confusion seem to center around school work and
professional challenges, rather than head trauma. However, the feeling
of confusion is the same, as are the feelings of anger that attend such
a state.
Upon returning
home from the Workshop, I first notice that I view the feeling of
confusion differently. Instead of dreading it, I now see it more
positively as a feeling which is alerting me to an opportunity to figure
something out. I am curious by nature, so the opportunity to learn
something new is fun.
Confusion is
seen as an ally now, and not as the jailer it once was. For example, my
home is quite messy when I return from the Workshop. Typically, this
would produce tremendous confusion, often expressed through angry
outbursts at my wife. This time, however, I react in a more productive
manner.
Though I still
experience tremendous confusion, I now share my sense of confusion with
my wife and begin cleaning the house. My confusion then dissipates. My
wife and I do not argue. In my professional life, confusion still arises
as I manage the day-to-day activities of my business.
However, I
do not get angry. I view each task as less dire, I take action, and the
feeling of confusion reduces. I get more done, and with less anger and
drama. Moreover, I notice that I feel happier, generally. If I decide
not to do something, it now feels like a matter of choice, and not the
result of foregoing action due to the confusion that will result.
Incidentally,
I believe that a critical step in this transformative process was the
injection of humor in the TTP process. If you recall, about halfway
through the process I was swinging my head in wide arcs to express the
confusion I was feeling.
You and
other Workshop participants began receiving my feelings with respectful,
good-natured humor, at times commenting that my form looked really fun.
I agreed, and at that moment my prior associations with the feeling of
confusion changed forever!
I believe this
was essential to my progress, as it allowed more than mere expression to
occur; it also created new and more preferable associations with the
feeling of confusion. I intend to use this technique in my own TTP
processes, and would encourage others to experiment with this technique.
Best, |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Saturday, August 2, 2008
Workshop Feedback
Hi Ed,
I want to thank you for the workshop and report what I notice.
At the
workshop I notice feelings come up in my body that are new. At one
point, I am doing a feeling exercise, my hands seem to turn into blocks
and become so heavy I cannot lift them, I allow it. I also remember the
feeling of floating above the ground just after the workshop ended; it
is like I am above the crowd looking down and feeling “spaced out.”
I leave the
workshop feeling lighter, like I leave some baggage there. Now I notice
people communicating with me in new ways. I find myself experiencing my
feelings and genuinely receiving others feelings. This is really showing
up in my relationship with my wife and children.
Thank you Ed!
Another thing I notice, I am thinking about a question you ask me before
the workshop, “ what is the positive intention of a dysfunctional
digestive system?” Answering this is most beneficial to me, Thank you!
At the workshop I point out that you may have swapped one medicine
“food” for another “gout related” you thank me.
I remember
later at the workshop watching you struggle with the gout and then I ask
you “what is the positive intention of gout?” I remember your answer
feels like a definition. I wonder if you will tell me, for you, what is
the positive intention of gout?
Thank you Ed, the TTP workshop works! |
Thank you for sharing your process.
At this point the Workshop gout is
gone.
As far as I can tell, its positive
intention is to inform me of internal chemical imbalances, particularly
in my purine / uric acid system.
On another level, it may have to do
with reminding me to "take a stand" on issues.
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Gout is a name
for the deposition of monosodium urate crystals in poorly perfused tissues,
including bursae, ligaments, articular cartilage, and synovial
membranes.
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Saturday, August 2, 2008
Workshop Feedback:
System Thinking and Awareness of Emotion
3000-Day Weight-Line Penetration
Ed:
For a 15-year
period prior to attending my first TTP Workshop in January 2007, I
struggle with diet and weight gain. I try numerous diets, ranging from
low-fat-high-carbohydrate diets, to low-carbohydrate-high-fat diets.
The unspoken
principle guiding every diet is a seemingly simple cause-and-effect
proposition: if I consume less "bad" calories, and exercise more
consistently, future weight loss is ensured.
Despite those
efforts, my weight continues to increase along a steady, upward trend
punctuated by intermittent reversals where weight loss occurs, but is
not maintained.
I attend my
first TTP Workshop in January 2007. At that workshop I am introduced to
systems thinking; i.e., thinking about the world and ourselves as
interrelated, complex systems where everything affects everything else,
and where simple notions of cause and effect are no longer looked to as
primary sources of truth, blame, prediction, or control.
I also learn
that every feeling we experience is a functional element of our design,
and that our judgments about these functional feelings often cause
harmful, recurring dramas in our lives.
After the
Workshop I focus less on controlling my feelings, and more on
experiencing them. I also study systems and complexity theory. I have
profound insights about the role of systems and complexity in many areas
of my life.
One such area
is my health and diet. I abandon my search for a diet based on simple
cause and effect and requiring a predictable diet and exercise regimen.
Instead, I find a health and fitness plan based on systems theory, and
advanced by a systems-thinker and scientist.
As with TTP,
where we learn to embrace the chaotic yet functional nature of feelings,
his health plan similarly teaches an appreciation for the chaotic yet
powerful design of our metabolism and overall physiology.
I adopt the
plan. I lose 12 pounds. I feel stronger. I feel energized. Along the way
I experience cravings for certain foods. I experience feelings of loss
and confusion. At times I feel hungry.
I use what I
learn from TTP to work through those feelings. I maintain the weight
loss while increasing muscle mass and stamina. The combination of my new
fitness plan with TTP results in a fitness "bliss."
I attend the
most recent TTP Workshop. During the weekend our group explores the
principles of systems thinking. I feel energized by the discussion. At
the Workshop I also work on experiencing several feelings associated
with my bumper stickers: anger, confusion, disgust, and dread. I have
two very productive TTP sessions.
When I return
from the Workshop, I am at zero-point. My mind is quiet. I am
experiencing feelings fully and freely. I am energized and at peace. I
also notice that I have lost an additional three pounds over the course
of the weekend. Soon after, I set new benchmarks in various exercises.
Though my bumper stickers have nothing to do with weight loss or
fitness, I achieve a weight that I have not experienced since 1996 -- a
roughly 3,000 day downside breakout!
Thank you,
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Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Saturday, August 2, 2008
Measuring Drawdowns
Dear Ed,
I wrote to you
in early January telling you how I had commenced trading my own system.
You asked me to let you know how it was going, with particular reference
to any draw-down periods I may encounter.
I am pleased
to say that so far the system has performed well within the bounds of
what was expected from the testing i did. I have generated positive
returns thus far, with a volatility that is very much in line with what
I expected.
I have been
busy researching improvements to my system. Until recently I had found
only minor advances, however in the last week, I have found something
that significantly improves the performance of the system.
I look forward
to implementing this as soon as possible. As for draw-downs, the largest
I have encountered is 16.4%, during July. This occurred after a sharp
run up in equity during June. The drawdown was the result of several
profitable positions unwinding at the same time.
So far I
haven't recovered much of this draw-down, as the system hasn't generated
many trades lately. I consider a draw-down that comes about from the
unwinding of profits to be different to a draw-down that is from
numerous consecutive losing trades.
To get a
better feel for what the expected draw-downs from losing trades (as
opposed to the unwinding of winning trades), I have begun measuring 2
versions of the maximum draw-down. The first version is a simple peak to
trough maximum draw-down, while the second measures from a set number of
days prior to the peak.
For example, I
can measure the draw-down from the equity level 1 month before the peak.
I use the second measure to attempt to remove some of the effect of
unwinding of profitable trades, leaving a measure of the draw-downs due
to consecutive losing trades.
This is by no
means an exact measure, however, it does give me a better understanding
of how the draw-downs occur, thus when they come I will be better
prepared for them. I am still working for a bank, and not enjoying it
very much.
Once I have
grown my capital to a level that will allow me to leave the bank, I will
be handing in my notice. At this stage, I think the quickest way to
bring that about is to continue to trade the system, and wait for it to
produce the goods. I look forward to having more time to dedicate to
trading and other things I enjoy.
I hope this
finds you in good health.
Regards,
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Thank you for sharing your process.
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Saturday, August 2, 2008
Tribe Update
Dear Ed,
Thank you for being a firm support for
many of us around the globe who want to grow. Our tribe has been
running for 3 years and we recently took in a third member who seems to
contribute a lot. After the initial take off (2 years ago) with a lot of
good things happening at the start of the tribe everything has calmed
down with the trending of many small improvements.
For instance I have
been using tobacco 25 years and never wanted to stop. So one day I woke
up and just didn't want it no more. It really is easy to quit things you
don't want.
Been off the s--- for 10 months now. One of my tribe
buddies woke my interest for training so I made an investigation ... and
found out [many things] It's close to amazing. Another role model I have
is Clarence Bass ... he passed 70 but man what a body he has!
Trading-wise I'm down 10% this year but that is to be
expected considering
the erratic trading stock markets. Sooner a later a new stock trend will
come along and then we will rock again! Also I have learned to cope with
traumas and sorrow in a better way, my son was diagnosed with autism and
man that did hurt. However he has a lot of strengths that we develop,
he loves computers and math. It could be worse.
Thanks chief! |
Thank you for sharing your process.

People Pretty Much
do whatever they do.
Clip:
http://megab.blogspot.com/
2007/08/cigarettes.html |
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August 2, 2008
Wants to Know Why
Hello Ed,
You wrote:
"Honesty is variously useful, depending on whether you are in alliance
or in
competition. You might consider taking your feelings about <competition>
to
Tribe."
That makes the assumption that in such an alternate universe, where
everyone
could read everyone's thoughts, that there would be no competition. Is
knowing everyone's thoughts the same as omniscience? What leads you to
believe that there would be no competition given the premise? Couldn't
people disagree on the method of accomplishing a goal even if they could
read
each others mind?
I believe that competition is overall a pretty good concept. Why should
I
take that feeling to Tribe? |
FAQ does not ...
make up reasons for things
or
answer "why" questions. See Ground Rules.

The Sign that Points the Way to
Going-Around-in-Circles
Clip:
http://www.negotiationlawblog.com/why.jpg |
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Saturday, August 2, 2008
Reporting In
Ed,
I am reporting from [City]. Our tribe has been meeting for a year, once a
week, every week. We have missed one meeting, the rest has happened as
planned. The work is going great, our tribe is small, but consistent.
I hope you are well.
Thank you for inventing the Process, it works just fine.
All the best, |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Friday, August 1, 2008
Doesn't Know Where to Start
Ed,
First of all thank you for making the sharing of all this information
possible.
My question is a very basic one. I've been spending a lot of
my time recently understanding systems trading and trend following,
reading through Wizards, Trend Following, as well as many articles and
your own website.
Now I want to start putting a system together myself
but I don't know where to start.
I've been a relatively successful
"fundamentally-based" trader for the last 10 years but feel that in the
last few months I have been "awakened" to the reality of trend
following.
So while I can analyze a company to death (but still can't
tell you where the stock will go), I have no idea where to start when it
comes to systems based trading.
There are, of course, hundreds of
systems and databases for sale, but without having any experience in
this space it seems impossible to sort through them all.
How would you
go about it if you were just starting today?
Thanks
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You might consider taking your
feelings about <wanting someone to help you> to Tribe.
Aside from that, you might just keep
waiting around until the moment of now arrives.

It's Always Now
Clip:
http://www.ineedmotivation.com/blog/
wp-content/uploads/2008/03/img_3561.jpg |
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Friday, August 1, 2008
Workshop
Feedback
Dear Ed,
Thank you for your unflagging commitment to helping
others.
Thank you for experiencing gout, a lack of sleep, and a
whole host of feelings in pursuing that end.
Thank you offering yourself to anyone who is willing.
Thank you for another incredible workshop weekend.
Though quite different from my first, it was uniquely
magnificent in its own right. The two weeks since have been replete with
change. I intend to share those observations in subsequent posts.
Best, |
Thank you for your encouragement. |
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Friday, August 1, 2008
Ed,
You might like this,
from 3-rd Serving of Chicken Soup for the Soul
Great Value in Disaster
Thomas Edison’s laboratory was virtually destroyed by fire in December,
1914. Although the damage exceeded $2 million, the buildings were only
insured for $238,000 because they were made of concrete and thought to
be fireproof. Much of Edison’s life’s work went up in spectacular flames
that December night. At the height of the fire, Edison’s 24-year old
son, Charles, frantically searched for his father among the smoke and
debris. He finally found him, calmly watching the scene, his face
glowing in the reflection, his white hair blowing in the wind.
“My heart ached for him,” said Charles. “He was 67 – no longer a young
man – and everything was going up in flames. When he saw me, he shouted,
“Charles, where’s your mother?” When I told him I didn’t know, he said,
“Find her. Bring her here. She will never see anything like this as long
as she lives.”
The next morning, Edison looked at the ruins and said, “There is great
value in disaster. All our mistakes are burned up. Thank God we can
start anew.”
Three weeks after the fire, Edison managed to deliver his first
phonograph.
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Edison is a master at finding
positive intentions. He views his first thousand attempts at
finding a material for his filament as successful researches in finding
out what doesn't work.

Edison, Contemplating Phonograph
Clip:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/11/business/
yourmoney/11edison.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
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