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November 1-16, 2007
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Fri, 16 Nov
2007
Shy
Ed,
I am writing an email to market writer who I admire. I want to start a
dialogue with her to hear her thoughts on an idea. I sit here for about
an hour revising this short email. All the while I feel tension in my
jaw. Finally I say, f--k it, this is stupid, and cancel the email. I
feel severe discomfort, in my head, in my back. I feel a form coming on.
I close the door and think to myself, this will get ugly. I lay down and
I feel the most intense pain I've felt in years. I feel small, weak. I
make an ugly face. I think this is what proving myself to others feels
like. It is not fun and I avoid it all costs. But I want to feel it. I'm
going to attempt the process by myself to see how far I can take it.
The exact same chain of events happens as I finish writing this email,
only this time, I'm sending the letter and am I'm willing to experience
the pain. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider taking your
feelings of <intense pain> to Tribe.

Shyness
may serve to cover up
other feelings
Clip:
http://vortis.com/blog/archives/
2005/june/Shy%20II.jpg |
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Fri, 16 Nov
2007
Market Maker
Hello Ed,
Starting from Monday, I’ll be working in one of the largest banks in
[Country] in a market making / day-trading team. There are four people in the
department with assets in hundreds of mln USD allocated to this sort of
trading. I’ll be responsible for the futures markets and a couple of
liquid stocks. This is not exactly my long-term trend following dream
come true, but hey, I might as well replace my blitz on-line chess
gaming with speed trading executions. This is also a nice experience for
me to compare the pros and cons of this strategy related to LTTF.
The commissions are marginally low (few cents for one contract – say the
US equivalent is a just below a dollar per trade), so we do have an edge
here – even one point is a profit after round turn costs.
I wonder how I can combine some of the LT techniques to the day trading
aspect of market making. For now they seem like opposites to me.
Wish me luck. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider using the TTP
Polarity Process to reconcile the feelings of short term and long term
trading. |
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Thu, 15 Nov
2007
Update on my Mom
Hi Ed,
The last few days have been quite intense. After I
speak with you on Tuesday morning, I take the first
flight back to LA.
When I arrive at the hospital in the evening, my Mom
is in the intensive care unit. She is given a CAT
Scan which shows an intra-axial hemorrhage 6 cm in
diameter. The doctors diagnose her injury as AVM.
http://cpmcnet.columbia.edu/dept/cerebro/AVM.html
Emergency neuro-surgery is performed late Tuesday
night. The procedure is successful and the surgeons
are able to relieve the pressure, remove the clot, and
fix the blood vessels.
Wednesday, she begins her recovery. She is on a
ventilator. Later in the day, she regains consciousness. We are relieved when she opens her
eyes. She is able to write with her right hand. Her
left side suffers from paralysis.
Today, her health improves. The ventilator is removed
and she breathes with the assistance of a Bi-Pap. She
regains some feeling in her left leg. She continues
to have paralysis in her left arm. Vision is not good
in her left eye.
Family is the essential tribe. This horrible event
brings everyone together. We support each other in
helping my Mom receive the best possible care.
I will let you know how things progress.
Thanks for your support,
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Thank you for sharing your process -
and for being there to support your mother.

Family
is the Essential Tribe
Clip:
http://www.hospitalitynetwork.ca/
products/the-healthy-way-network/
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Thu, 15 Nov
2007
New Approach With Son
Transforms
Anger to Laughter
Ed,
Yesterday, my son became angry when I indicated that eating only ice
cream and pumpkin pie for breakfast, lunch and dinner was not good
nutrition and he would need to eat more variety to improve his
nutrition.
He began his childhood anger expression, pushing on me and telling me
how mad he was, “Bad Dad” his a favorite rhyme of his at this time.
I tried a different approach this time. Before, my reaction was to tell
him to not get mad or that I am not Bad (which usually just causes him
more anger).
This time, I accepted his expression, I let him push on me, I expressed
to him to get it out, feel his feelings, yes, yes, get them out.
An interesting thing happened. His anger subsided quickly and this
cycled to laughter.
Today, he seems to recognize me more, and it appears his listening is
more pronounced.
I sense this approach is working better. My wife is wondering about my
behavior. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
For another view of father and son
and pushing, see:
Video Link:
http://bluesequoia.multiply.com/
video/item/8/Father_and_Son
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Thu, 15 Nov
2007
Tribe
Meeting Feedback
"I don't
know"
Ed,
I'm awake much earlier than I intended, tossing and turning. Every time
I lay down to sleep I begin to feel forms coming on. A few are
straightforward, embarrassment and rejection, and I go with them,
explore them a bit. Because I understand the process and I know I'm
willing, I'm confident I will open up to them over time.
The one I'm
having trouble with I call "I don't know." "I don't know" is my response
to things I don't want to feel. If the feeling is intense enough, the "I
don't know" takes so much energy to keep up that I'll often fall asleep
on the spot, regardless of where I am or what time of day. "I don't
know" why I have so much trouble with "I don't know". I don't understand
how the process addresses a defense mechanism like this and I am afraid
of what happens without it.
Its easy not to feel painful feelings when you're making money trading.
This morning has been a steady drumbeat of pain. I'm the least net short
I've been in about a month. All day yesterday, I was thinking "what a
great place to sell" but I didn't do it. Actually I bought a little. I
feel like I'm using my trading to create a drama, like I need a drawdown
to feel all of these painful feelings. Although I feel strongly that a
bear market is just getting started, I'm peeling off all of my exposure.
The rational arguments I've made all sound great, but the truth is I
don't want to make money right now. I want to lose money so I can feel
pain. I want to miss out on a trade I saw coming so I can feel ... I
don't know.
I covered my long ES from Tuesday and am now short. I have sell stops in
every few points lower. I want to get short here and stay short until I
feel the fear. This selloff was bought every step down. I can't count
how many times I wanted to cover. A lot of people are trapped. Look at
the trick the NQ's played on everyone. Bonds? Screaming risk aversion.
Then there's the dollar. While everyone's watching Ben run the presses,
very few are taking into account the destruction of wealth caused by
this "little housing problem." Housing is sterilizing all the money
being pumped in. The dollar blew its load last week. |
Thank you for sharing your process
and for illustrating that willingness to fully experience <I don't know>
leads on to knowing.

I Don't Know
One of its positive intentions
is to motivate the process
of finding out.
Clip:
http://www.letstalkscience.ca/
main/science_at_home/ |
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Wed, 14 Nov
2007
Importance
of Self-Knowledge
Dear Ed,
I know for sure that you know because you taught me this but want to
share it with others:
You are the most important variable in the trading equation. Not you,
the set of technical indicators, or you, the fundamentalist with an
insight into economies and companies. I mean you, the thinking, feeling
human being. A good trader can make any strategy work, and a poor one
will lose money over time regardless of method. A good trader, like a
good parent, employee or lover, needs self-knowledge above all.
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Thank you for sharing your thoughts
about the importance of gaining self-knowledge.
I wonder what you are doing to gain
self-knowledge. |
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Wed, 14 Nov
2007
Select a
Candidate
Ed,
No matter which side of the fence you are on, this is a helpful tool to
see where you align with the candidates. Very informative. The following
is an interesting exercise ... You answer a few questions then click the
"find your candidate button" and the program selects the candidate whose
position on the issues is most like your own... You may be surprised at
what you find... I was.... Click the link below
http://www.wqad.com/Global/link.asp?L=259460 |
Thank you for the link.
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Wed, 14 Nov
2007
Report on
Tribe Meeting
Ed,
After mostly
just receiving at last week's tribe, I notice I am more willing to
experience emotions as they come up. I believe this may be because being
a part of the Tribe gives me more confidence in my ability to handle
emotionally intense situations. I am less afraid of the consequences of
my response to negative emotions and this helps me be more willing to
experience emotions generally.
I was not expecting a tribe meeting this week and as such, I have
previous obligations. I feel bad about this because I feel I haven't
proven to you my commitment to the tribe. I hope I have a chance to
prove myself in the future. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider taking your
feelings about <proving things to others> to Tribe.
If you find a way to do something in
the past or in the future, please let me know. |
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Wed, 14 Nov
2007
TSP
Good Day Ed,
I thoroughly enjoy reading your FAQ. I have a couple of questions for
you:
1. Are you planning to update your TSP page and create WebPages for the
link titles that are currently unavailable? I am most interested in
reading about those topics i.e. Dynamic Portfolio Selection, Pattern
Recognition, etc.
2. I found a posting from about a year ago where someone was asking how
the stock strength filters were calculated for stocks on the charts
page. Your answer was that these filters change from time to time. My
question is what is the current formula for selecting these stocks? Are
you still using calculations such as the %roc, cash flow, etc?
Thanks.
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Some of the TTP Associates are
currently assisting me in extending the TSP pages. |
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Wed, 14 Nov
2007
Short-Term / Long-Term Trading Cycle - #2
see previous
Hi Ed,
This FAQ sums up my situation. I want to thank the sender and you for
putting this up on the web. I think outlining the situations that result
in my ‘turbo-charging’ might help the sender recognize the situations
that bring this about for him.
I notice I try to ‘turbo-charge’ my account following conversations with
people my age that I went to school with who are now earning more money
than me, despite the fact I was scholastically equal or superior to most
of them.
This often comes on the back of a good trading time for me and the
conviction that if I keep doing what I’m doing but a little bigger size
and little more often I’ll be rich in no time. Of course the opposite is
likely.
I struggle to understand that my intention is to lose money.
I also notice I go ‘turbo-charged’ when frustrated at work and feel that
I am not doing enough to make money and get out of debt. Perhaps a day
spent doing jobs at work that don’t directly lead to money perhaps
tidying the workshop versus selling something.
I notice arguments with my Dad (who I work for and who divorced my Mom a
few years ago) lead to dreams about him ‘choosing his new life over his
old life (me)’ and me getting progressively angry and upset by this over
a few days until a trading blowout medicates these feelings away.
He has a good business and makes good money and all will be passed on to
me if I want it.
My problems with that are that are:
The wealth
from it won’t be ‘enough’ for me (although it’s a lot better than
what I have now)
It won’t happen soon enough (although I see all wealthy people are
much older than me)
I don’t want to be given anything, least of all from him.
I feel I can do ‘better’ and achieve more in business (this in turn
makes me feel guilty for looking down at what he achieved for me and
the family).
I want to cry now; I want a better relationship with him as I’m sure it
will dissolve a lot of drama for both of us.
Thanks for your thoughts.
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Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider taking your
feelings about <your father> to Tribe. |
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Tue, 13 Nov
2007
Cockatoo
System / Missing the Bus
Ed,
On Oct 31st, after the market closed I am upset with myself for not able
to buy a stock on a fast pullback. Then the next morning feeling the
market about to turn I reduce my existing positions to almost nothing;
now I am glad that I am not able to buy yesterday.
After the fall, same day, I buy back few stocks then I tell myself that
I have enough positions and force myself not to buy more. I cut (ctrl x)
my order text from order box so I can paste (ctrl v) it back when I want
to place the order later on. Then I leave my computer for few minutes.
When I come back, I notice my screen set-up changed a bit then I check
my order status screen and to my surprise the order I put away was
executed. Then I realize my wife's cockatoo had placed the order for me;
she likes to chew on the keyboard and accidentally presses some buttons
and send out the order. The trade is a good one for a day or two. Fred
engineers a drama through our adorable cockatoo?
The next day at [City] tribe meeting, my third attendance, during
check-in I mention I want to trade less so our tribe leader asks whether
I want to take that to the hot seat. I am on the hot seat after he
finishes his.
During hot seat several forms come up, rubbing hands together and on my
knees, tightening the whole body, etc. I enjoy the feelings emerge
during the process. I feel relax and less tense after the hot seat. I
feel I am not worrying about what is going to happen tomorrow. I want to
act accordingly whatever comes up and not afraid to start over.
During the process, I am thinking about an incident when I am a child.
My parents and I are in their work place, a factory. One day my father
and I are planning to go home and my mother is staying behind at the
dormitory. While waiting for my father to leave, I play by myself at the
wheat field. When he comes by and asks me to go, I am not following him
but instead keep on playing. And he keeps on walking and occasionally
looks back but never stops; it takes probably 15 to 30 minutes to bus
stop. As distance between him and I get further, I am hoping that he
comes back for me, but my hope is in vain. As he disappears into the
distance and I am left behind, I feel sad that he did not come back to
take me home and I wish I go after him instead of waiting for him to
come back to fetch me. At the end I go back to my mother's dormitory and
stay there overnight.
After I encounter TTP, I have been thinking whether this incident has
anything to do with my afraid of missing out on a stock move; which
makes me jump from one stock to another and buying and selling stocks
before they reach the point I have in mind. I always feel that if I wait
until it reaches my point the stock is going to turn and leaving me
behind.
I am thinking about this incident while taking the hot seat. Since I
already have this thought in mind before taking the hot seat, am I curve
fitting?
So far, I witness two hot seats before taking mine. One experiences a
trance state and the other has not and I have not either. I am wondering
whether there are ways to allow one to reach the trance state easier
when on hot seat; thus really pinpoint the problem deep within. It seems
one benefit the most if one can reach trance state during hot seat.
Thank you. |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Tue, 13 Nov
2007
Looking at
the Money
Dear Ed,
I realized that I am looking at the money I could make instead of
following rules ... my account has been flat for two years. Thought I
would share this in case someone else may in the same position. |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Mon, 12 Nov
2007
Associate
Meeting: Add-On Rules
Ed,
Here is a
recap or our meeting.
Ed asks me what I'm working on.
I reply that I'm working on my trading system software in C#. I'm also
trading gold and the DOW to get a feel for what its like to be a trend
follower.
Ed asks me what determines my system for trading gold and the DOW.
I explain that I start by using the TSP SR system. As an example, I
explain that I enter positions in the same direction as the long term
trend. I set my stop at the short-term support. As the price of gold
increases, the stops increase. As the price increases, I add to the
position twice. Gold rallies a lot since my entries and my position has
a lot of open profit. I decide to use a 3-ATR stop (20 day lag) to lock
in some profits. Today gold trades down over 25 dollars/oz. I'm a few
dollars away from stopping out.
Ed asks me how I come up with a 3-ATR stop.
I tell him that although I haven't tested it, I think it might be better
than waiting for the short-term support to stop me out of the position.
Ed asks me again how I come up with a 3-ATR stop.
I read it in a book.
Ed asks me yet again how I come up with a 3-ATR stop.
I tell him that I just don't want to give up all the profit on the
trade.
Then, Ed starts making points. He says that I'm unwilling to feel what
it would be like to lose all of the open profit on the trade. He says
that using an un-tested exit method is a way to medicate my feelings of
losing profits on the trade.
Ed points out the incongruent logic of my "trading system". Asking me
the same question repeatedly makes me think hard about what is behind my
decision; it puts a mirror in front of my actions. Unable to think of a
good response, it becomes clear that Ed's insight it correct.
Taking criticism is hard for me, but I know that it will make me a
better person and a better trader.
At this point,
I am working the the TSP SR with an ATR overlay. The point of the
exercise is to simulate trading an SR system, using an ATR as a stop. I
intend to finish the simulation soon and post my results. |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Mon, 12 Nov
2007
Post Workshop Feedback
Hi Ed,
I just have been speaking to a friend who noticed some positive changes
in my behavior. A second person also talks about it without being asked.
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Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Sun, 11 Nov
2007
Since the Workshop
Ed,
I share feelings verbally with family members when I feel we do not
communicate well. I feel SURPRISE that the conversations flow smoothly.
My son calls me from college to say that I am a good person and that I
raised him well (remote aha) so that he is now a good person (causal
system). He then tells me his feeling of anger and I receive him.
I feel my good feelings immediately using D.I.M. or with whomever is
nearby. I plan to feel my bad feelings at tribe meetings. (avoiding DIM)
1st tribe meeting after workshop, no one shows up except for me. I feel
LET-DOWN by the universe. I decide to DIM and I associate bad feeling
with a visualization and consciously "make the visualization disappear."
My wife says I feel my feelings and exhibit forms more readily
especially anger.
I drink beer or wine everyday and enjoy it. (Previous to the workshop, I
drank beer a only a few times per month.)
I spend a few minutes feeling loss in my equity drawdown of November
7th. I spend a few minutes feeling silly elation associated with my
equity "recovery" of the morning of November 8th.
I feel these are baby steps in a radically new direction in my life. |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Sun, 11 Nov
2007
Workshop Feedback
Dear Mr. Seykota:
I hope you are well. I thank you for letting us know you are working on
You Tube Project and new book. It would be the most precious thing
that any trader and other willing person could ever have on it's book
shelf, computer-mp3 etc.
Today we had our first local TTP meeting since the workshop. It was
great to meet fellow participant who attended the workshop as well other
committed members. There are so many aha's since the workshop and the
truth is I don't know where to begin.
I did not write FAQ immediately after the workshop
because for first two weeks I was feeling process of change and was sort
of flowing with it. I feel very fortunate to be one of the participant
in the workshop. I eternally thank you for your contribution.
Below are some of the great things I learned during the workshop:
Control. We are all guilty of this and we try to control weather in the
house, work, anything.
System model and Causal model. Preferably be Bilingual to maintain
harmony. I was actually judging the causal model hence going in circles
ending up loosing all my friend and creating major headache and drama.
Now I enjoy being bilingual and hence accepting everybody as is without
judgment and I feel I am experiencing Total Freedom and peace for the
first time.
Feelings are objects (at least some of it I think or feel?? ) In tribe
process we encourage people to feel our feelings.
I try my best to sum up my experience in the workshop and it's lasting
result. (Work
Shop Experience: Experience TTP, Listening to Ed, Listening to Banjo,
Experiencing Rock Process as receiver and role play, and Polarity
Process.
My issues:
Have no social life what so ever. Friend as well as partner (not being
able to relate to people nor have no interest in causal system)
Not communicating with my parents
Not being able to take meaningful risk to produce meaningful profit.
Dissolving what's between me and being Great.
Caught in the Middle, two sales assistants, two tribes, two cats, two
cultures, mixed race, etc.
Lasting Result:
Conflict and tensions at work completely disappeared and evolved into
genuine harmony without any effort. New Friendships emerge at work
place, exchange ideas in a very supporting atmosphere.
Looking forward to taking meaningful risks everyday in trading.
Entry and Exit point are unbelievably accurate.
Developed deep passion toward trading.
Spoke to my parents for the first time in 6th month and sent her 5% of
my income.
Shifting my focus and interests from raising assets(more clients) to
meaningful profits.
Naturally started to short from 10 days ago and entered multiple
positions. First meaningful and profitable shorting experiences and
naturally investigating further opportunities.
Aha from reading recent FAQ, that some form of Flirting, Sexual Taboos
are type of dramas we engage to avoid intimacy. I acknowledge it is my
deep issues and took the first step to target this issue today at our
local tribe meeting with support from my fellow tribesman. During
snapshot process member asks "should I judge your snapshot?" my reply, I
would appreciate your brutal honest view." He willingly gets in to
details especially the FUN and Relationship Snapshot, I develop some
forms during the snapshots.
After snapshots, we move on and I ask who is hot. One member raises his
hand and we shift our focus to him. (I was describing this entire hot
seat just now however I decided not to write because I feel I must
respect his privacy. I'm sure he will share his story one day. I am
shifting focus on my hot seat experience now )
After the hot seat we are happy with experience and feel that we are
making progress. I ask the members "who is hot now?" Other members is
not so hot and tells us he is fine. We are OK with that and we thank him
for his honesty. Although I didn't feel much hot, however I decided to
somehow tackle my issue of avoiding intimacy.
As the process began some how I started to say that my
new computer and recent DSL installment at home is making me feel weird.
I ask members to start drumming, I immediately develop forms rubbing my
face in to slapping my hand all over my face, head everywhere, it felt
like splash of fire works were all over my face and my head area.
Receiver and process manager are going " yeah go for it,
Internet!, Firewall! Virus! Porn! Spam! cookies! I get deeper in to the
form and bursting in to blast of laughter. The whole process takes about
5 minutes. We do the check out. One the way back home I had nice dinner
with one of the member and talked about our experience in the workshop
and was amazed how I missed what he saw or learned and vice versa. We
enjoy the evening with lots of laughs and was time for good bye for now.
We thank you very much for your contribution and sharing. Your thoughts
and feelings are always with us.
Sincerely, |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Sun, 11 Nov
2007
Wants to
Access History
Dear Mr. Seykota,
I want to ask you if you think that it is possible to remember incidents
buried so deep in the subconscious from such a long time ago.
Or could my
memories be the product of imaginations brought on by my unhappy past.
This question has huge implications for me as, if I have remembered what
I think I have remembered, then it explains so much about my life that
now makes sense.
ps. when I read your FAQ, I think of you as a kind of patron saint for
wanabee traders. or some kind of sage of the undisciplined stop takers.
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Whatever memories you have exist in
the now. Learning the origins of these memories may be less
important than learning how to deal with them in the now.
You might consider taking your
feelings about <unhappy past> to Tribe.

Dinosaur Bones
exist now or not at all.
The same goes
for memories
of dinosaur bones
and memories in general.
Clip:
http://comsewogue.k12.ny.us/~rstewart/
k2001/Themes/dinosaurs/skeleton1.gif
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Sat, 10 Nov
2007
Headache
Dear Ed:
i had a snapshot last week. objective=get rid of bad
headech started thursday morning 11/08 and did not go until next morning
,i take my sitution to the trib meeting ,the process manager ask who is
hot ?
i reply . the manager ask what is the problem? i answer
bad headech the manager ask what is the problem? i answer bad headech
the manager ask what is the problem? i recieve a phone call telling me
the stock (GooG) droped 60pt in one day,the manager asked what is the
problem,i answer i had my stop at $709.00, the manager asked what
is the problem?
i answer disappoointment market can go up or down one
trend will make for everything manager say your stop saved you a lot of
money ,market has no rules anything goes. process manager ask what is
the problem ?
the headech increase the moment i mention {GooG}.manager
said headech is good for you more headech ,more,more,more headech is
your friend from now HEADECH=INTENTIION=RESULTS. manager ask what is the
problem? headech move to different part of the head manager ask what is
the problem?more headech the headech is good, headech has good intention
the result will follow. thank you ed for all the suppport. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider consulting with
your physician to rule out physiological factors before pressing forward
with psychological methods.
You might notice that you do not
seem to recall the details of the Forms Process in which you go into
your headache, explore its contours, listen to it's messages, make the
sound of it's voice and develop some insights about how it fits in with
how you run your relationships.
You might recall your insights that
you regularly use your headache as a way to distance yourself from
moving forward in
intimate situations, such as with your girl friend.
When you develop these insights during your
process, your headache changes location and momentarily disappears.
Sometimes, when you get close to experiencing these insights, you create
an even bigger headache to avoid proceeding.
During the process you also recall
the phone call about the stock comes from your girl friend.
At the end of the process you
consume 650 mg of aspirin to treat your headache.

Google
The sender reports hearing
about GOOG declining 60 points
and then noticing a headache.
He omits the details
that he stops out at 709
and that the call comes
from his girlfriend.

Headaches
typically carry messages.
One positive intention of headache
is to motivate pro-active change.
Sometimes people use headache
medicinally, as a reason / excuse
to avoid intimacy.
Headache might also come to serve
as an organizing principle
for trading.
In either event,
we can gain information
by listening to the voices
that accompany the headache.
Once the headache communicates
its message
it tends to disappear.
Aspirin can serve
to medicate the headache.
In some cases, then,
we may meta-medicate
some of our forms of medication.
Clip:
http://www.uwstout.edu/studenthealth/
peerhealth/Headaches4207-4907.html |
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Sat, 10 Nov
2007
Breath Work
Ed- Real interested in learning more about breath work. I've researched
it on
my own, but only found poor quality information. Nothing profound.
If you have the time; would you point me in the direction of some
valuable
resources for information on the subject. It would be greatly
appreciated. |
You can likely find a wide variety
of Breath Work practitioners; many types of groups employ Breath Work as
a part of their disciplines.
Trading Tribe Breath Work emphasizes
group process, willingness to experience whatever comes up during the
process and pre-loading conscious concerns as emotional analogs. |
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Fri, 9 Nov
2007
Doesn't Remember Doing the Funky Chicken
Ed,
I show up at Ed's with the idea of working on my snapshot, which is
straight forward: Do the Exponential Average Crossover exercise from the
TSP page, in Excel, to the penny. Ed asks what's standing between me and
completion of my snapshot. I explain that I have no computer, nor
software, but both are en route.
Ed repeats, "So what's standing between you and
completion of your snapshot?" Seems obvious to me. I say again that
I
don't have the tools, add that I've read the Dummies books on Vista and
Excel, and I'm ready to hit the ground running when the goods arrive.
Ed asks again, "What's standing...?," etc. I admit to
some apprehension about going through the learning curve, wanting help,
having doubts about commitment, all the usual suspects. A fourth time,
Ed asks the same question. I don't know what he's getting at so I give
him the I Don't Know What Else To Tell You look, with upturned hands,
scrunched shoulders and wrinkled nose.
Ed says, "Freeze that," and tells the tribe this is a judgment I have
about commitment and completion and needing help, then says, "Give me
that form again." I'm more interested in getting clarity tonight, k-not
in doing forms, but I give him another shrug. Now the tribe gets on
board with "Do more of that," and it's off to the races, though slowly
at first -- I 'm still skeptical that doing the Funky Chicken is really
the way to learn Excel -- but I stick with it, searching for "feelings,"
and go a little farther this time than in previous experiences.
[A Half Hour Developing Forms - Description Missing]
During my check-out the tribe congratulates me on my willingness to get
into the form, and I thank them for receiving me, but secretly I think
this is mostly a waste of time and I feel some regret at making a
long-term commitment to travel 2,000 miles twice a month for this.
(Yeah, I know, there's the Commitment issue again.)
Then an interesting thing happens. Over the next four hours, three more
tribe members take the hot seat. Their issues are my issues, and their
processes "work" for me, i.e., they do the work and I cop a free ride,
getting insights and ahas about my own Stuff. I feel connected to
everybody. It feels good.
The next morning I'm still feeling good and feeling connected to the
world, one cell in this multi-billion celled organism of humanity. I
call a long time friend that I haven't talked with for several years and
learn that cancer took his wife three months ago. We talk about
"processes" and "transitions" and commit to staying in touch.
The rental car lady spots some bumper rash when I return the car. I'm
sure it didn't happen on my watch, but My Bad for signing the inspection
form without doing the inspection. I decline the opportunity for drama
and sign the damage report, happy to let it ride. "Good on you for
taking the company insurance," say the lady. Funny how that works.
I know that's not how it really works. I know we're not all really one
big happy organism. I know I'm delusional, but for now it feels good and
I like it. I know it won't last long. In fact, I can hardly wait to get
back to Reality and start acting out more drama so I can feel bad again.
I wonder what it feels like to lose a wife. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
You might notice you do not seem to
recall much detail about the Forms Process in which you bring your form
[Funky Chicken] to term. In the process, your associating notion
[I don't know how to do it] disappears, leaving you with certainty about
how to proceed.
During the subsequent processes, you
seem to absorb substantial insights by observing others.

Taking Forms to Term
is an essential part
of the TTP process
and one which the sender
may not remember.
Clip:
http://www.animationplayhouse.com/
new/animals5.html |
|
Fri, 9 Nov
2007
Libertarian Questions
Ed,
I understand that libertarianism is the idea that government is
operating at its best when its role is minimal and exists only to
provide means to adjudicate disagreements between individuals and
provide services that may not be practical in the private market ie.
sovereign defense.
In addition, private individuals are free to associate in
anyway they wish as long as they do not harm others. Ed, where do the
libertarians stand on the issue of "potential harm to others".
I was curious to know what the libertarians think about
drunk driving for example; prior to an accident occurring nobody is hurt
yet, but their seems to be a great "potential" for harm to occur (lol,
sounds like a trading fundamentalist).
In my mind, these types of issues are the gray areas that government
uses to extend its power through propagating fear, but does that mean a
libertarian government has no role in these areas at all? |
I do not know where
Libertarians stand; the notions of libertarian collective and
libertarian government seem incongruent - like trying to apply the
causal model to understanding systems.
You might consider these notions:
Libertarian Party:
A small pot-luck gathering of people who meet to
celebrate the free exchange of ideas.
Adjudication: The law itself is a private matter; people
can retain agreement assurance firms as part of the contracting process.
Drunk Driving: People drive on a system of private roads, each with its
own local laws, customs, agreements and methods of enforcement.
You might consider taking your feelings about <government> to your
Tribe and to notice if you conduct your personal relationships more like
a government or a community.


Government
A government is a body that has the power to make and the
authority to enforce rules and laws.
Government tends to become self-aware and then
self-aggrandizing. It typically grows by promising to help people and
winds up stifling them.

Community
A community is a body that operates according to customs.
Community requires active participation - absent which it may evolve
into government.
Clips:
http://www.wsfa.org/journal/j92/1/
jan92government.gif
http://www.ci.carbondale.il.us/Government/
organizational_chart.html
http://www.the-deception.nl/seditio/index.php |
|
Fri, 9 Nov
2007
Short-Term / Long-Term Trading Cycle
Ed,
Thank you for sharing your wisdom and experience in FAQ's. I have learnt
a great deal from you over the years.
I trade my own simple long-term trend following system, using moving
averages. I have made good profits following my system.
But typically, after a few months of successful long-term trading, I
then decide to take some short-term trades, and I lose most or all of my
recent profits, taking me back to square one.
I tend to begin this process by looking at a chart at tick level. I
observe the fractal-like similarity of long and short-term charts, and I
see buy / sell signals which I believe present the opportunity for
larger, faster profits. To me, these signals appear identical to the
ones I would normally respond to on a daily chart. And so I begin. I
lose on trade after trade, and hand back my hard-earned profits.
I resolve not to day trade, and then a few months later, after the pain
has become a distant memory, I see some short-term signals one day, and
I make the same mistake again.
I know that the proportionately larger spreads in short-term trading
account for some of my losses, because I reach my stops more quickly
when the trend reverses. But I feel this can't be the entire
explanation.
I don't understand why my long-term trading usually results in profits,
with a high proportion of winning trades, but when I attempt the
"turbo-charged" short-term version, I make losses and most of my trades
are losing trades.
I would be very grateful for your thoughts on this matter, Ed.
Best regards, |
Short-term trading suffers from an
unfavorable
Transaction_Cost / Profit_Potential
ratio. It is vulnerable to surprise price moves that jump over
close stops. It incurs the risk of evolving into frantic,
obsessive wrestling with the markets.
Simulation studies show a
substantial risk-normal profitability roll-off for trading frequencies
below the once-per-month range. See TSP, above.
Successful day-traders seem to know
when to refrain from day-trading. They may have
a long-term overlay filter that informs them when to day-trade and when
to avoid day-trading. In this case, the long-term filter may work better
by itself, without the day-trading.
Many day-traders have an official
intention to make money and a senior intention to engage in market drama
that medicates (distracts attention from) deeper issues relating to
right-livelihood.
You might consider reviewing your
trading history and noticing what events occur around the points that
you switch from ST to LT and from LT to ST.
Your pattern is consistent with an
agenda to limit the profitability of your trading account.

In Our Increasing Medicinal Society
day-trading can be a drug of choice
for affluent people
who wish to become less-so.
Clip:
http://www.societyforqualityeducation.org/
newsletter/1054.html |
|
Wed, 7 Nov
2007
Sees an Up-Trend
Hi Ed !
Here are some up-trending stocks in the Uranium sector.
URRE
USU
EMU
CCJ
URZ
FRG
Boone Pickens said to be buying. |
You might
consider taking a look at your charts from the point of view of someone
who is not already in them.
You might consider re-writing your last sentence in SVO-p
to determine who is doing the saying. (Likely, Pickens says it himself
on Bloomberg.)
See Optical Illusion,
below.

USU |
|
Wed, 7 Nov
2007
Rocks
Process Notes
Ed,
I write up notes on the Rocks Process from the Reno workshop for my
tribe. Here is a copy. Thanks for a great workshop!
Trading Tribe Rocks Process
Reno Workshop Oct 2007
Objective:
Allow Fred to re-experience pivotal life situations and learn responses
that are more useful than those the subject habitually employs in
situations which evoke similar feelings.
0. Check-in.
1. Subject says they have a problem (or displays a signature
form).Process manager (PM) drills down to get Subject to take ownership
of the core issue. PM repeats question: "So what is the problem?" until
statement and/or irritation displayed by Subject.
2. Subject gets into the feeling. PM may catch them in a gesture and ask
subject to do more of it. Subject develops form and gets to signature
form (if known).
3. Subject makes the form as big as possible then remembers and
describes a time in early childhood that feels the same. (It's nice to
get the first time but not strictly necessary. Look for something
that makes a child fear for survival, and that includes spanking or fear
of exclusion from family) Subject also describes 3-4 other situations
where they exhibit the same feelings and reactions, some childhood, some
adult.
4. PM assigns tribe members to play the roles in the dramas described in
step #3. Key roles are:
a) Provoker: person who initially brings on the situation and emotion
(e.g. father beating, mother berating, bullies)
b) Donor: role model for Subject's response to the Provoker and others
c) Messenger: neutral person who records the new strategic responses and
brings them to the subject
5. Tribe members enact the initial situation.
Subject supplies details to make the role play as accurate as needed to
bring up the feelings. Its not necessary to be 100% accurate to bring up
the feelings. For example, if the situation involves father spanking
with a belt, the father-actor actually uses a belt but hits only hard
enough to sting. Use the same words and tone as the subject recalls.
Tribe member/actors watch Subject closely to see when they're hooked
5.5 For the initial role play, the subject experiences the situation
without the protective rock. PM encourages subject to just experience
the confusion and terror appropriate to the age of subject at the time
of the initial event.
6. At the end of the initial role play, the Donor presents the Subject
with a Medicinal Rock that fits the hand. Donor says "Take this
Rock. It will help you in these situations. You don't have to feel this
way. Do <maladaptive behavior> instead and it will help you feel
better."
7. Role play 2-3 additional dramas with the Subject clutching the
Medicinal Rock in hand. Subject responds as usual, i.e. with the
maladaptive behavior indicated by the Medicinal Rock. Again, tribe
members play roles as closely as needed to get the Subject deep into
their feeling and signature form.
8. PM asks subject to put down the Medicinal Rock
As Subject goes to release it, PM reminds Subject that without that
Medicinal Rock, Subject has no protection for these difficult
situations. Expect Subject to take a few minutes and put down the rock
with difficultly. I imagine that if a Subject is ultimately unwilling to
put down the rock, the process ends with the Subject keeping their old
behavior.
9. Tribe members suggest 4-5 new, more useful resources (behaviors) that
Subject can use in these situations. Messenger takes notes. Suggested
resources:
a) Stay awake
b) Share own feelings
c) Ask about the other person's feelings
c) Ask for support
d) Form an alliance
e) Be open for more new resources not covered here
f) Take a deep breath
g) Use medicinal rock (Ed says as a 5% solution, meaning 95% use new
behaviors but sometimes the old is appropriate. e.g. if old behavior is
submissive, it may be appropriate during a robbery.)
h) Ask for more information
i) Ask about the other person's intention
j) Develop a win-win solution
k) Use humor
l) Say "no"
10. Messenger brings Subject a new palm-sized Resource Rock. Messenger
reads the customized list of new resources from step #9, says they are
in the Resource Rock and Subject can use it to help in difficult
situations.
11. PM leads group in re-playing dramas with Subject clutching the
Resource Rock. This time, PM asks Subject if willing to use each new
resource and Tribe helps Subject work out how to do it, if needed.
During the role play, Subject uses the new resources and gets to feel
how that plays and see how the drama ends or turns out differently.
Subject squeezes the Resource Rock to help remember how to use the new
resource.
12. Re-play original incident, yet again. This time, the Messenger holds
the Resource Rock for safe keeping. The Provoker initiates the
situation.
Once it gets intense, the Donor brings Subject the Medicinal Rock.
Subject refuses ("forgives") the Medicinal Rock. Donor keeps pushing it,
Subject keeps refusing, ultimately Medicinal Rock falls to the floor.
13. Replay all dramas with Subject holding and using the Resource Rock.
Subject keeps the Resource Rock and never touches the Medicinal Rock
again.
14. Check-out. Subject goes last and verbally releases tribe
members from their roles in the dramas.
|
Thank you for sharing your notes.
I do not always stick to an exact
sequence.
Attempts to follow a strict formula
may inhibit the process. I prefer to trend-follow the subject in
whatever direction he goes.
Some essential parts of the process
are:
The
subject discovers medicinal responses to his own emotions that
entrain recurring problem situations.
The
subject rejects exclusive reliance on the medicinal responses and
invites supplemental pro-active responses.
The
subject links the supplemental pro-active responses to his emotions
on a deep, automatic level.

Making Love
and
the Rocks Process,
rarely follow
a logical,
mechanical,
reasonable
or repeatable
path.
Clip:
http://www.interiors.intendo.net/
magritte/lovers.jpg |
|
Wed, 7 Nov
2007
Getting
Nervous About Attending Tribe
Hey Ed,
When I asked about the turnout for the last Incline Tribe meeting you
said 7 people came, 3 worked and 4 supported. This got me to thinking
about my own efforts to 'work' during the last workshop. I must admit
that I had a difficult time really getting into it when I was in the hot
seat. I really tried to engross myself in the process, but my mind kept
running off in tangents and I could not help but feel self-conscious and
almost embarrassed.
Perhaps it was that I had just very recently been introduced to the
Tribe and its methods, or I had never been to any other Tribe meetings,
but I was kind of disappointed in myself that I did not have a more
dramatic experience in the hot seat. Another recent thought I had is
that my intimacy issues also played a role in me not getting as involved
as I wanted to.
I remember reading somewhere, cannot remember if it was the book or your
website, that one of the prerequisites for attendance at the Incline
Tribe meetings is a willingness to work. I have that willingness, but I
am becoming nervous that I will repeat my hot seat experience from the
workshop.
I am not sure what it will take for me to overcome my nervousness about
working. I am hopeful that a more intimate setting with fewer people
will enable me to get into it more. Or perhaps attendance at a few Tribe
meeting as a receiver / supporter will help.
Do you have any suggestions?
|
Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider taking <nervous>
to Tribe and allowing yourself to become even more nervous.

Stubbornness
can sometimes indicate
deep nervousness.
TTP can help illuminate
the positive intentions
of both.
Clip:
http://www.fablevision.com/
education/clipart/stubborn1.gif |
|
Wed, 7 Nov
2007
Finding a System That Fits
Hi Ed,
I am reading the book for the 2nd time. I very much enjoy it! Also, I am
reading FAQ from the start and very much enjoy it! I include an update
of my system work. I tried and tried to get my trailing stop tighter,
especially with huge open risk, it just did not test out. So I stick
with the wider trail.
MM is wider
than my former work by about double. The entry is a 50-day breakout,
nothing special, I added a few things to filter out some false
breakouts. I tested many ideas that would complicate it, but simple is
better and an entry the next day at the open seems to test out.
I feel that this type of trading is easier and less stressful. What
is happening is, I am learning to create a system that fits me well.
Also, that it
is possible to take market data and back test a system and get a
positive expectancy. Then show what kind of result you might expect now.
The reply you gave about
missing the bus
on Sat, 27 Oct 2007 was, as always, fantastic and right on target.
After reading the book from cover to cover I wonder about your feel,
Guitar player or Banjo player?
Thanks to you and all who join in on FAQ! |
Thank you for sharing your process.
I like playing both banjo and
guitar. |
|
Wed, 7 Nov
2007
Human Brain - Interesting Lecture
Ed
You might enjoy this 25 minute video on The Human Brain Journey to the
Center of Your Mind, as it relates to phantom limbs, synesthesia and the
Capgras Delusion.
http://www.spikedhumor.com/articles/
130759/The_Human_Brain_Journey_
To_The_Center_Of_Your_Mind.html |
Thank you for
the link. |
|
Wed, 7 Nov
2007
Gisele Dumps Ben
Ed,
I remember reading somewhere that when shoeshine boys and hotel porters
start giving away stock tips then it's time to sell up.
Could Top model Gisele Bundchen be providing a variation on a theme by
refusing to be paid in $USD?
According to the WSJ, Gisele is concerned that the USD is losing value.
http://online.wsj.com/article/
SB119431747214683561.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Basic Translation: Gisele says, SELL!!!
Does she know something? (after all the trend IS currently down) or is
this 2007's version of shoe-shiners & porters?
Any thoughts Ed? |
Thank you for
link. So far, I don't see the dollar, dollar/yen or gold showing up on magazine
covers.

In This Photo
and in the Markets
preoccupation with identifying
tops and bottoms
may interfere with noticing
which way the horse is heading.
Clip:
http://fitblog.wordpress.com/ |
|
Wed, 7 Nov
2007
Rocks
Process Feedback
Hi Ed,
I purposely delay sending you my feedback re: my Rocks process at last
month's workshop purely and simply because I do not want to confuse the
effects (if any) of the Rocks process with the ‘natural afterglow’ of
the workshop itself.
With nearly 3 weeks having lapsed since the workshop, I can say that the
aforementioned ‘afterglow’ has now well and truly dissipated.
So are there any changes/effects that I notice that can be attributed to
the Rocks process?
Before I comment on this, I will briefly mention that the issues I take
to the Rocks process involve feelings of injustice and unfairness and a
particular signature form that I display at every hot seat session.
These seem to contribute to a built up anger within, as well as
resentment and an inability to express myself in ways other than to
bottle it all up or lash out. (depending on the person involved)
During my process I discover (with tribe help) a new set of productive
resources that I can use if situations associated with the above
feelings arise.
One such resource is; “Tell other people how I feel about the situation”
This is used to good effect about a week ago, when someone is
deliberately trying to provoke me with a particular sarcastic comment.
Rather than seethe with anger (and/or tell them angrily to F-off) I am
able to calmly say that “I feel as though that comment of yours was
designed to deliberately irritate me and perhaps engage me in a
confrontation that I don’t want to engage in, how do you feel about
that?”
The other person, upon thinking about it, agreed that the comment was
confrontational and offered apologies. The situation quickly becomes a
non-situation.
Other similar situations involving people trying to ‘ruffle my
feathers’ are tackled in a similar fashion (or by using a different
resource such as “Stand up, look people in the eye and let them know
that I’m not going to be pushed around on this occasion”)
My old methods (i.e grumble & stew about it) of dealing with these kind
of minor dramas were not used on these occasions.
I also feel a lot more at ease & relaxed in these situations.
So to answer the above question re: have I noticed any changes since the
Rocks process, I will say, Yes.
However I must say that changes noticed are very subtle, a sort of blink
and you’ll miss it type of change.
Sometimes I’m not even aware, until much later, that I have reacted to a
situation in a manner different to how I would have reacted
pre-workshop.
My partner comments that I seem to be a lot less cranky & grumpy and
that perhaps the Nevada air has had a calming effect on me.
Now there's a thought. Cool, clean, calming NV air . . . . . If only it
were that simple.
|
Thank you for sharing your process
and reporting on results from the Rocks Process.
The Rocks Process can help identify
medicinal response patterns and supplement them with pro-active response
patterns.

One Response to Provocation

Another Response to Provocation
Clips:
http://www.alexross.com/
angrydonaldbrownmiddle.html
http://www.tvsquad.com/2006/06/03/
the-five-bugs-bunnys-greatest-moments/
|
|
Tue, 6 Nov
2007
Guest Visitor : Uncertainty
Ed,
I attend the [City] tribe as a guest. I tell the tribe that when God
admonishes Adam and Eve not to eat from the Tree of Knowledge, it isn't
really a command, it's a friendly warning, like "You'll be sorry!" Once
the appetite for knowledge is whetted, there's no respite. The more we
get, the more we don't know but want to.
I tell the tribe that "I Don't
Know" is a signature attitude of mine. I don't know how I'm supposed to
do this TTP stuff, I don't know if it will really work for me, I don't
know if I can push through to "get it," yada yada.
The Process Manager
says, "Show us that feeling." I say, "I don't know what that means." I
ask if I'm supposed to locate a real physical sensation in a particular
area and when the Process Manager says, "Yes," I identify the
constriction in my lower back, right side, as a product of the
uncertainty of not knowing.
The tribe encourages me to feel the back pain, to intensify it, to
experience the feeling of uncertainty and I Don't Know.
I do some stretching and twisting and rubbing and the tribe spots some
other forms. Soon I am flailing my arms, violently shaking my head back
and forth in an I Don't Know posture while yelling "I don't know,"
shrugging my shoulders, throwing my arms up in despair at not knowing.
My face is drenched in sweat and I'm feeling very nauseated. I announce
that I'm bringing the process to a halt because I'm so close to stomach
sickness.
The Process Manager tells me that I'm doing a perfect job and that the
tribe supports vomiting and do I want to continue? I say I Don't Know,
then catch the irony: I don't know if TTP till work for me and I don't
know if I'm willing to get into my forms enough to let it. With the
tribe's assurance that it's okay to be sick, I get back into my forms
and the nausea quickly returns. Just as quickly I halt the process
again.
I think about Ed's statement that it takes a lot of hard work to change.
I wonder if hard work means doing the Whirling Dervish to the point of
puking. I wonder if I'm a quitter for not pushing it to that point, for
not doing Whatever It Takes. I wonder if there are any right answers. I
wonder why God let that Tree grow there in the first place.
I don't know. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
Sometimes a form appears to resist
the process.
The skillful Process Manager may
continue the process by encouraging the resistance.

In Martial Arts, In Trading
and in Process Management
the master aligns with
the positive intentions of resistance,
Clip:
http://www.aikidoedintorni.com/Stili%20di%20Aikido/Aikido%20style%202.jpg |
|
Tue, 6 Nov
2007
Associate Program:
Exponential Crossover System: Success
(Exchange between Associates)
Good job on finishing the first TSP.
You might consider completing the TSP SR and Trends in "R" first. The
TSP SR includes techniques not in the TSP EA, such as trading with the
long-term trend and stop-specific position sizing. You might benefit by
completing all the TSP's before starting to write a program in C#. Once
you understand how all the TSPs work, you will have an easier time
designing a robust C# program.
The C# program might have the flexibility to back-test more than one
strategy. I am happy to discuss on the phone.
-----
Thank you for your suggestion. At this point it is a small step to
implement SR strategy and execution in my "R" system. However, I don't
want to implement optimization in "R" because of very slow execution,
(each run takes about 1 minute to complete, and with hundreds of
parameter permutations I see my patience run out quickly). I also can't
get "R" to output decimal fractions consistently, and until I solve that
I can't verify that my results are accurate. Thus, EA 15/150 run results
match to the penny, while EA 85/325 results match to the nearest dime. I
intend to investigate this a little further and then decide how to
proceed.
-----
I agree that trying to run the optimization on "R" could be frustrating.
The first version of the TSPs I build are with Excel & VBA. The
calculation time necessary to run the back-test are significant, so
running the optimization takes too long. To optimize and add more
parameters, C# might be the way to go. I only suggest building the SR
strategy in "R" to get comfortable with the way it works. My experience
is that once I build a system in excel, it is much easier to think about
how to code it. I find it helpful to understand all the inputs and
outputs for my system before writing the design document.
Which ever path you take, let me know.
-----
The EA 325/85 run matches to the penny, the picture of
report is attached. I'm going to implement SR system and bliss
calculation in "R".
-----
Nice Job! |
Thank you for sharing an example of
working together. |
|
Tue, 6 Nov
2007
Tribe, NLP, EFT, PK & Hypnosis
Dear [Tribe Leader]
I am contacting you again after several years of being away from the
Tribe. You probably do not remember me, but we met when ... I attended several sessions with Ed in Lake Tahoe.
I had made a huge breakthrough doing the tribe work that I had not been
able to make through NLP, EFT, Psych-K or hypnosis.
I am very much interested in rejoining a group. I have reread Ed’s book
on the tribe.
Are you accepting additions to your group and if so, how do ... I
proceed?
For 20 years I could not hold a job. I was regularly laid off or down-sized or something (not fired for incompetence or bad habits). It was
not that I was mean and nasty, I just had the obsession to please people
and I suppose that I appeared weak. My father was an aggressive
alcoholic and my way of dealing with the uncertainty was to obsessively
try to please him so that he would not be angry. I also never felt that
I could ever be my own person. I had built in tremendous problems around
this issue. I had an explosive temper, upon which I kept a very tight
reign.
By the time I went to Ed’s meetings, I had tried NLP, EFT, Psych-K, and
hypnosis, as well as several other techniques. I had been searching for
a break through for nearly eight years, actively.
We found out about Ed’s sessions and were invited to
participate. We went to several sessions and on one of the final session
that we attended I made my final breakthrough on the issue. As a matter
of fact, Ed mentioned that I was he star example of what could be
achieved in the tribe setting.
As a result, I have kept a contract Technical Writing job for over three
years. I am much happier with myself and I do not seem to be having the
temper issues that I had had.
I am however, at the point where I really want to take my whole life to
a new level and have identified the fact I have new issues that I would
like to address and resolve so that the path to this new level will be
easier. The Tribe played a huge part in helping me before and I see no
reason why it should not help me now.
My quality of life is not what I would like it to be and I know I can be
far more successful financially, personally, and emotionally, than I am
now. I used to be a commodity trader, but I never found the right
balance in trading. I was far too emotional. Part of the reason I want
to get back to the tribe is that with some small breakthroughs, I think
that I can be an excellent, consistent trader, with a better ability to
handle risk in a manner appropriate to me.
I am also finding that I probably need to rebalance, readjust, and
refocus my life.
I would like to join your group, because I think that I can get a lot
out of the session, as well as I think that I can contribute to the
sessions.
Note to Ed:
I hope that this email finds you happy and healthy. Thank you again for
all that you and the tribe helped me to accomplish. The tribe is of
immense value to so many people, you must be very proud of your
contribution to their lives. |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Mon, 5 Nov 2007
Optical
Illusion
Dear Ed,
Just received this interesting presentation from a friend. We see
what we want to see.
Observation.pps |
Thank you for the link. |
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Mon, 5 Nov
2007
Max and Min
see:
uncertainty
Ed,
You posted the following link:
http://telstar.ote.cmu.edu/environ/
m3/s6/09management.shtml
which depicts Cost vs Risk.
At first glance I thought it was a radial momentum post.
It is exactly the same as the diagram for Lift vs Drag. The point
depicted as optimal risk is the same as the point for L/D Max (L over D
max) - the point where you get the maximum amount of lift with the
minimum amount of drag.
Left of that point you get increased induced drag from
flying a slower speed. Right of that point you get increased parasite
drag from flying faster speeds.
I find it interesting how the mind processes information. Also the
parallels between L/D Max and Bliss. Flew a 4 v 4 this weekend. It was
nice. Is the snapshot process defined anywhere? Thanks for your help. |
Yes.
Finding maxima and minima in many
areas of life is the basic business of calculus.


Mastery of Infinitesimals
Clip:
http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Mathematics/
18-014Calculus-with-Theory-IFall2002/
CourseHome/ |
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Sun, 4 Nov
2007
Progress Report:
Health,
Strength, Relationship
Dear Ed and fellow tribe members,
I wanted to report on a remarkable series of events that have occurred
in my life as a result (I feel) of my work with the tribe and some other
complementary efforts.
I processed some emotions I was having about the loss of a friend who
just abruptly stopped calling and offered no explanation for withdrawing
from my life.
I missed him terribly and was confused and saddened by
this loss. I had neither seen nor heard from my friend in 3 months when
I arrived at tribe ready to work.
While experiencing this sadness, a scene entered my
consciousness. I was as a small child, less than school age. My parents
were fighting, and my mother hysterically imploring my father not to
leave the house. (In later awarenesses, my father was a self confessed
alcoholic who drank in binge fashion, the leave-taking in question was,
presumably, to go off and get drunk).
As the scene escalated, my mother grabbed my fathers
shirt in an effort to physically prevent him from going out the door. A
button was ripped from his shirt, and flew across the room, coming to
rest in front of me as I crouched next to the dryer. I scooped it up and
held it tightly, feeling that if my father never returned, at least I
would have this small token of him.
Feelings of fear, sadness and anguish washed over me.
Like my mother, I wanted him to not go away, to control his behavior, or
at the very least tell me where he was going and when he would be back.
A huge A-HA came then!
When my friend left without an explanation, and gave me no idea if or
when he would be back, I recreated this scenario internally. I
anguished, I suffered. After role playing this event with tribe members
and using the rocks process, the tribe came up with several alternate
solutions to the suffering that occurs in my life when friends or family
leave. I recreated a couple of these and immediately recognized the
shift in feelings that occurred. I had new tools.
Upon arriving home from your house in the wee hours of the morning I
checked my email. There was the first email in several months from my
friend. Nothing in the way of an explanation, just including me in an
email sent to all in his address book.
At times over the next few months, I fell back into despair. You
encouraged and even promoted this feeling, wisely seeing it's positive
intention. You allowed me to emote.
Over the next month my friend slowly returned to my life. I recognized
the presence of another woman, but ignored this (none of my business)
and just kept up my end of the friendship as cleanly as I could.
After several months, he explained his absence and his
relationship with this woman. And, while I did not get the sense that it
was over with her entirely, his focus returned to me full time. Since
then, we have discussed the form our relationship will take, and it has
been decided that I will move in with him, and we will look for property
in an area that we both love. We have established some common goals, and
his attention to this other person seems to have dwindled away.
I used several techniques to remain calm and comfortable during this
time. Jealousy, a bugaboo of mine, reared it's ugly head. I acknowledged
and felt this feeling without judgment and recognized it's usefulness. I
used it to steel my resolve to fight for what I wanted. It became my
friend. I remained positive, exercised regularly all the while
visualizing the end result that I wanted and both my weight (20 lb
loss!) and my spirit were positively impacted.
I came out of this summer feeling happy, healthy and strong. I have the
presence of my friend / lover in my life, but also know that if he
leaves again I will be okay. All of these changes happened, I believe,
as a result of doing the internal work -- starting with my work with the
tribe. For that I am grateful. Thank you for all you do.
Love, |
Thank you for sharing your processes
and your successes.

Popping Buttons, Popping
Pills
and Popping Out a Favorite Drama
can all serve
to medicate feelings.
Forgiving the medication,
and experiencing our feelings
can set us on a pro-active path
toward realizing our dreams.
Clip:
http://bargainbox.com.au/index.php?cPath=29
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Sat, 03 Nov
2007
Speaking in Haste : Not True
see: Significant
Dear Ed,
I wrote "What a pain." - This is not true: I feel good. Should go into
realization instead exaggeration.
I wrote "Enlightenment who needs that." - This is not true:
Enlightenment is a good thing to have or better be. |
OK.
You might consider taking your
feelings about <telling the truth> to your Tribe.

Miscommunication
is another form
of communication.
Clip:
http://www.taproot.com/blog/FindX.jpg |
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Thu, 1 Nov
2007
Rocks Fit Together
Ed, I notice you often have to tackle the issue of intimacy in FAQ. This
seems to be a very common issue nowadays. One thing I find interesting
as we understand it in the Trading Tribe is that one rock always fits
the other in a given pattern. So I see that as far as I don't resolve my
own intimacy issues, I am likely to attract partners who have the same
problem. For instance, today I was browsing Yahoo! and found this
article:
http://dating.personals.yahoo.com/
singles/gettingstarted/63/five-dead-end-
dating-patterns-and-how-to-break-them
The article seems to be geared towards women who have
dating problems. I have already myself engaged several times in patterns
like those described by the author with women who, at least on my point
of view, are seemingly drama queens.
Over time I came to realize that I also might have been
to them a kind of drama king and that our rocks fit nicely.
What comes to my attention is that once I resolve my own
issues I am likely to replace my prospective partners with a significant
one that fits my new rock, and reflects my intention. The only problem
as that I don't see any shortcut to the gem other than experience. |
Thank you for sharing your
insights.

Gridlock
People sometimes lock
into mutual stagnation.
The associating feelings of anxiety
may serve to medicate deeper issues.
Clip:
http://www.laobserved.com/archive/
2007/01/real_gridlock.php
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Thu, 1 Nov
2007
Compliments
On Wednesday, 24 October, I buy a Halloween costume. Called "Tequila
Popper Dude," it includes a wide-brimmed straw hat, a striped shirt, a
belt with two holsters, and two bandoliers. The holsters are designed to
hold bottles of tequila and the bandoliers have loops designed to hold
shot glasses (included in the package).
I complete the costume by buying two bottles of Jose Cuervo Especial and
a black false mustache.
On Saturday, 27 October, my wife and I attend a Halloween party for
adults. I offer tequila shots to various guests and enjoy it.
Late in the party, the hostess comes to me and says, "You win the prize
for most original costume!" She also pins to my shirt a ribbon stating
that.
In response, I smile weakly and think (but don't say) 'it doesn't
deserve the prize, anyone could have bought it.'
Wednesday, October 31, I take <don't deserve compliments> to the hot
seat of my Tribe meeting. I stand in the middle of the circle and tell
me Tribe members, "Compliment me."
They do so: "Nice pair of jeans you're wearing." "You have a Ph.D." "In
trading, you were up 14% for October."
I verbally deflect the compliments: "I spilled coffee on them a few days
ago and haven't washed them." "Anyone could have gotten a Ph.D." "I just
followed my rules and got lucky this month." Meanwhile, I raise my left
shoulder, turn my head down and to the left, and look at the floor.
My Tribe encourages me and I develop the form. I windmill my left arm
for several minutes. My left hand tingles from pooled blood and I sweat.
I also verbalize a number of things. "Well, it wasn't just a costume
from a package; I had to buy the fake mustache."
One Tribe member says with playful sarcasm, "Oh, that makes it
original."
His response reminds me when I was a child and other children would
tease me when I proudly expressed things they either didn't understand
or disagreed deserved pride.
I soon grow tired and feel tempted to check-out, but instead, I ask my
Tribe to test me.
Our Tribe leader says, "I wish my hair was as straight as yours."
"Thanks," I say, "but it's just the genes I got from my parents..." From
my Tribe members' facial expressions I read what I've done and smile.
"Okay, more of this s---," I say light-heartedly. I resume wind milling
my left arm. I enact the form so vigorously that my left hand slaps my
lower leg four or five passes in a row before the pain that arises in my
hand leads me to stop. I return to my seat.
Our Tribe leader says to me, "You're a good receiver. I sometimes zone
out while receiving others, but I'll hear you say to the hot seat 'just
like that' or 'more' and it helps me regain my focus. You add a lot to
the Tribe and I've never said that before."
"Thanks," I say. I keep my gaze on him, but I feel slight hesitation in
my voice and a judge trying to pull my gaze down and to my left.
One Tribe member speculates I deflected compliments to avoid teasing as
a child. It occurs to me he may be right, but if so, it didn't prevent
teasing and may have encouraged it by making me appear weak and
tease-able.
Between my hot seat and the present moment of writing this message, I
also have a number of mini-ahas:
Not accepting compliments may make others think I don't value their
opinions.
Whether others give me compliments honestly, as a conscious lie, or as
medication for their k-nots, is irrelevant. I can accept a compliment
from someone without lowering my defenses to him or taking a role in his
drama.
I am reticent with what I think and feel for fear of being teased. If I
don't tell anyone that I'm proud I bought the fake mustache, no one can
laugh at me for my pride.
The two ex-girlfriends I miss the most were the ones who were most
affirming to me. My unwillingness to be affirmed may
be part of the drama I engaged in to justify breaking up with them. |
Thank you for sharing your
process and your insights.
You might consider taking your
feelings about <the positive intention of compliments> to your Tribe.

Judgments About Compliments
may appear as embarrassment
and may excite self-deprecation
as a medicinal response.
A medicinal response typically shows up
as a re-appearing "signature form"
in
a series of TTP sessions.
In TTP we use the Rocks Process
to identity the nature and source
of medicinal signature forms,
and to supplement medicinal responses
with pro-Active responses.
For example,
an alternative response
to receiving a compliment
is to smile and, from the heart, say
"Thank you for the encouragement."
Clip:
http://www.blueskyresumesblog.com/
2007/06/index.html
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Thu, 01 Nov
2007
Significant
Relationships
see:
Flirting
Dear Ed,
Thank you so much for you thoughts about significant relationships of
Oct 27, 2007. I did my best to be more significant with a friend.
She offers me
a sexual relationship. That was the reason of our break-up. This time I
try it. I hold her, feel her heart pounding and realize that this is an
average affection between two human beings which has no expression in
our western civilization. We talk about it and sort it out.
I like hugging and touching quite a lot and am not "always on". But, in
western civilization the loving human touch between grown-ups seems to
be linked almost exclusively to a sexual love.
What a setback. I mean: I
hate it. |
Thank you for sharing your
process.
You might consider taking your
feelings about <friendship, intimacy and sex> to your Tribe.

Sometimes Engaging in Sex
(or in Day Trading)
provides a way to medicate
feelings about intimacy.
Clip:
http://www.kkk.bz/women.jpg
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