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February 1 - 14, 2007
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Wed, 14 Feb
2007
War on a
Feeling
Hi Ed,
I noticed while walking past a London Police Car, this message written
on the side of the vehicle, “Working to reduce fear of crime”.
I recall thinking hmmm ... Fear - that’s an emotion, attempting to
reduce fear is another way of creating a K-not about Fear, in fact fear
of crime is a very healthy feeling!
This message also appears on the official Thames Valley Police website:
Our Aim
Working with our communities
to reduce crime,
disorder
and fear of crime
Site:
http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/
news_info/info/aims.htm |
Yes, one positive intention of fear
is to maintain risk control.

Burglar Responding to Sign in Yard
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Attention Burglars !
We are not afraid of crime.
Come on in.
Help yourself.
Mi casa es su casa. |
Note: A police campaign
to reduce fear of crime
might entrain even more
burglar business
for the police.
Clip:
http://www.cusu.cam.ac.uk/welfare/
safety/crime.html |
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Wed, 14 Feb
2007
Wants to
Fix Son
I think my “Fred” is still processing everything that happened over the
weekend there in January. There are things in my life that are changing
slowly, which is fine with me…the trend is in the right direction with
my trading and my life.
I have a situation with my son though that I want to ask your opinion.
My son just turned 20. He had a 4.0 in high school, skipped his senior
year and went to college.
He had plans
when he entered college to become something in life. He found alcohol
and parties on campus his first year in college … started drinking the
first time about November of his first semester. He still maintained a
4.0 even though he was getting stoned almost every weekend.
Since his
first year has has moved on to benzo’s, cocaine and marijuana and other
prescription drugs. He has now had 2 dwi’s … totaled 2 vehicles. He went
to rehab and got kicked out because he was caught using there … got
drugs from someone in with him.
How can I
apply TTP to this situation … I know he has a mess in his
subconscious mind and a lot of pain. How can I as his father help him to
get in touch with these feelings?
I never really
saw this coming with this child … he was the perfect son through
high school…perfect grades, responsible, reliable … all that is out
the window now. He can’t be trusted with a $5 bill now. I am ready
to get on the hot seat myself about this situation. What can a father
do? |
You do not apply TTP to a situation
- or to another person - you apply it to yourself.
You might consider taking your
feelings of wanting to control your son to the hot seat.
So far, your son seems to be doing a
pretty good job of controlling you.

Sons Typically Turn Out Like Fathers
including using the same medications
like, say, the need to control others.
Clip:
http://www.madd.org/docs/
LikeFather_LikeSon_lg.jpg |
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Wed, 14 Feb
2007
Fear of
Brain Washing
Dear Ed!
To tell the truth, first I was concerned about the idea of attending a
rocks process as it is evocative of “brain washing”. Though my concerns
are not completely gone I begin to realize that my concerns come from
the fear to change the person who I am, but I also realize that we are
changing through our whole life and that without change I would always
stay the same what isn’t desirable either. Another fact is that I seem
to react with a weird feeling in my stomach in several situations.
On the one hand I feel anxious about using this process but on the
other hand I see it as an opportunity to learn more about myself and to
improve my life as well.
I bought your book “trading tribe” and found it quite interesting.
Currently I am reading “Emotional Intelligence” from Goleman which is
also very interesting and includes many aspects of your trading tribe
book too.
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The Rocks Process is a method
through which you can wash your own brain.

After The Wash Cycle
be sure to replace brain.
Clip:
http://www.forcesitaly.org/italy/
immagini/brainwash.jpg |
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Wed, 14 Feb
2007
Apprentice
Program
Dear Ed!
Now I come to the question, when you are planning to
conduct the program and how long the time-span for each apprentice is
planned. First I thought that the coordinator will arrange the dates and
I am also busy in learning for the assignments that take place within
the next three weeks and so I decided to wait for another reply. I know
that I will have vacation from mid-September to mid-October. Is it
possible to conduct the apprenticeship in this time-frame? I also would
like to know what things I have to bring along (laptop and so on?!) and
if we are able to use the internet and telephone?!
As I am only at the beginning of the system development there are many
topics I have to work off, like a computation of the expectation value,
implementing margin calls, better position sizing, dynamic portfolio
selection, pattern recognition and so on and so on. I will resume
working on the trading project after my assignments. |
Please address your scheduling
concerns to the Program Coordinator. See
this. |
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Wed, 14 Feb
2007
Building
the New Rock
see
previous
Thank you Ed.
I did not realize this aspect of the Rocks process and I will make every
effort to "assimilate and conquer", with the help of the tribe.
I mentioned in my earlier email to the tribe that I do feel 'some'
conflict, one that I am not able to describe well.
I have noticed
(just yesterday actually) that I was again reaching out to my old rock
by hitting the fear response button, so to speak.
I became aware
of it almost immediately and clenched my left hand to form a fist, as if
holding the new rock. The fear did not die down but I was very aware of
my fist and remembered some of the instructions from the new rock. It
was not an automatic response for me but a conscious effort. |
Be sure to assimilate the positive
intention of the Medicine Rock into the new Response Rock.
Otherwise, you may find yourself
"reaching" for a valuable response you no longer have.
If you are making a conscious effort
to "force a response," you may be holding the new rock as a
conscious idea, like advice.
At the IV-TT we make sure the sender
fully develops his form before continuing - so the learning occurs on an
emotional level as well as intellectually. We also make sure to
assimilate the Medicine Rock into the new Resource Rock.

Reaching for a Response
may indicate you no longer have it.
Clip:
http://www.reachingupforair.com/
onevoice.htm
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Mon, 12 Feb
2007
Magazine Cover
Here's a recent magazine cover that proclaims low
interest rates are here to stay.
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Thank you for the catch. |
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Mon, 12 Feb
2007
Reminiscences of a Trading Tribe Member
Dear Ed,
I want to thank you for creating the Trading Tribe organization.
I have found the TTP process tremendously beneficial and
useful. I have been a regular attendee of the [City] tribe since your
presentation at the local technical society chapter over a year ago. My
original intent for attending the Tribe was to improve my trading
skills.
I have discovered that the quality of my life has
improved and the goals I have set have been more easily attained. I also
feel that Tribe has helped me to become more supportive and less
judgmental.
I know my family has benefited from my growth. I seek
less drama in my life and am more conscious of my k-nots and judges. The
snapshot process has especially helped me focus on the important issues
in my life. When I receive a no-pass on a snapshot commitment, I know
that there may be an insight about myself to be found.
Tribe members can also be helpful in this discovery
process. I have found the snapshot commitment process useful for
strengthening the commitments I keep with myself. The hotseat forms help
with the acceptance of previously denied feelings.
I also find I enjoy the supporting of other Tribe members
in their quest for development as well. The Tribe meetings have helped
me discover insights into myself I might never have otherwise known.
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Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Mon, 12 Feb
2007
Valentine's Day
Ed,
I just wanted to be the first to tell you I Love You! Happy Valentines
Day.
As far as reminding each other who we can be ... feel like I'd be
trying to telling a star how to shine. You're doing great ... keep on
shining. I'm riding the wave of intention. Thanks for showing me how to
surf.
By the way, I recently finished reading Trump and
Kiosaki's book, and a lot of it coincided with your philosophy. My
intention is for the three of you to meet and spend some time together.
Would you be willing? |
OK. Donald is certainly
welcome to apply to my apprentice program.
Speaking of lovely Valentines,
here's a recent photo of my daughter.

Aziza Seykota |
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Mon, 12 Feb
2007
Trend Detergent
I guess it all comes out in the wash.

Clip:
http://www.dialdmd.com/
index.cfm?page_id=50## |
Hmmm ... That may to be one way to
clean up while you clean up. |
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Mon, 12 Feb
2007
Super Cycle
G'day Mr. Seykota,
Great to be able to chat with such a legend!
I have been studying commodities markets and am convinced that these
markets are in a what people are calling a super cycle.
I am also convinced that trend following is the most
productive way to take advantage of these events. I have been
investigating a Mr. Richard Donchian trend following system. It
uses a 12 week break out system to filter non trending markets in
conjunction with a 40 week MA following method. Exits consist of waiting
for meaningful reversals in price, signifying the end of the trend.
An associated author suggests using low levels of leverage of 2 times.
I'm not greedy but I am sure there could be instances where greater
leverage could be used in this bull market.
Could you please advise of the effectiveness of such a
system and methods and study to improve?
Thank you for the use of your valuable time, sir.
p.s. Are indicators used in your systems? |
You can find information on Richard
Donchian at the the Chart Server link above.
FAQ does not recommend specific
trades or trading system parameters. See ground rules. |
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Mon, 12 Feb
2007
Moving On
Hi Ed,
Now that I am feeling better, I am drawing 2007 snapshots. I plan to
continue with the [City] tribe, and plan, with your permission, to visit
and pollinate on an as-inspired basis to IV and Austin, rather than
continue a regular bi-weekly commitment with the Incline Tribe.
I hope you accept this change of intention and allow this
pollination. This seems to fit with your intention to move to Texas.
I recall attending the Incline Village tribe for over three years, by
far the longest-attending member, helping you teach five workshops,
reviewing hundreds of FAQ contributions, and proofreading many versions
of your first book.
I recall sponsoring the [City] Tribe for over a year now,
with excellent results. I feel exceptionally well-trained in the TT
processes, and willing to continue supporting your overall Work as
needed by proofreading manuscripts, or if your business development man
in Austin needs an experienced tribesman to work in a certain place or
time, for example.
During this long association I'm aware of opening up many areas of the
mind and heart, and extensive learning about math, programming, testing,
trading, puzzles, music and magic. You inspire me. I have a permanent
heightened perception of the inner and outer world as a result of TTP.
And I have not forgotten your hospitality, so much so that your guest
room was known as my room for awhile. You practice true
generosity.
I plan to find magical and musical opportunities we can participate in,
and continue sending you stocks in up trends.
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Thank you for your support over the
years, musically, spiritually and Tribally.
All the best to you and your Tribe.
You are welcome to pollinate at any
time, particularly if you bring some of your latest magic tricks with
which to dazzle us.

Performing
at the Bowers Bluegrass Festival
Washoe Valley, Nevada, 2006
Photo Credits: Bob Piechocki and Doc Leary
Clip:
www.nnba.org
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Mon, 12 Feb
2007
Wants to Make Good
Dear Ed,
I apologize again for all the time and effort to make the arrangements
to come to Singapore, which fell through.
I sincerely hope that in time, I will be able to make it up to you.
PS. As I am no longer a part of [Firm], this is my own email address
that I can be reached at. |
I wonder what you are proposing. |
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Mon, 12 Feb
2007
[Firm] Tries to Deal with Volatility
(from an
announcement email)
[Firm] is pleased to announce that significant
enhancements have been made to the [Firm] trading program. Complete
details are attached, which we encourage you to read. Should you have
any questions, please contact [Name].
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Hmmm ... I see no "complete details"
attachment.
I do see some indications you are
trying to cope with volatility by trading 50 instruments rather than 29
instruments.
You might consider dealing with your
feelings about drawdowns and whipsaws.
If you think the answer lies in the
math, you might like to prove it by sending me:
1. Comparative performance
back-tests for the 29 and 50 instrument portfolios.
2. Comparative performance between your 29 instrument back test and your
actual trading. |
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Mon, 12 Feb
2007
More
Conflict after Rocks Process
see:
previous
Hello Ed,
When I find myself in situations where I feel
stuck / directionless / confused, I would go to the rock my mother gave me.
It says panic, fear and imagining the worst possible outcomes are the
best ways to deal with such situations.
We role played a moment from about 20 years ago, where I am studying
late into the night and am stuck with a physics problem for a long time.
I am studying for a crucial exam, one for which I have taken the whole
year off to prepare. My mother would always be sleeping close by to make
me tea, snacks and provide support. After many hours of being stuck, I
clearly recall being engulfed with the fear of failing the exam,
imagining my relatives mocking me and worst, seeing my parents,
especially my mother, saddened by disappointment.
The Tribe and I have found new resources and squeezed them into a new
rock. These resources are:
a) Ask for help if you need it
b) Go back to familiar problems where you were successful and use that
approach
c) Go for a walk
d) One problem does not mean a thing in the grand scheme
e) Stay with the problem without worrying about the consequences
f) Take a deep breath and meditate
g) Picture what a tribe member might do
h) Continue to feel fear
i) Realize you are not alone and that many people love you
j) Be open to other options
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You might consider making sure that
your new Resource Rock contains, as one of the resources,
the old Medicine Rock.
Your old Medicine Rock - "imagine the worst" - is a pretty good
resource
in some situations, say five percent of the time,
particularly when you are in real danger.
If you do not include the Medicine Rock as a "five-percent solution,"
you may subsequently feel a sense of dis-orientation and vulnerability
and / or an urge to go back to the old Medicine Rock
and / or host some kind of fight between the rocks.
In the TV series Star Trek, the Borg, a race of cyber-beings,
have a motto, "assimilate and conquer."
In the Rocks process, the new Resource Rock
assimilates the old Medicine Rock
as just another resource.

When You Create The Resource Rock
remember to assimilate
the Medicine Rock
Clip:
http://www.familyrightsassociation.com/
educate/borg/talons.gif
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Mon, 12 Feb
2007
Receiving is an Art
A man asks his wife what she'd like for her birthday.
"I'd love to be
eight
again" she replies.
On the morning of her birthday he rises early, makes her a nice big bowl
of
Coco Pops and then takes her off to the local theme park.
What a Day!
He puts her on every ride in the park:
* The Death Slide
* The Wall of Fear
* The Monster Roller Coaster
Five hours later she staggers out of the theme park. Her head
is
reeling
and her stomach feels upside down. Right away they journey to a
McDonalds
where her loving husband orders her a Happy Meal with extra fries and a
refreshing chocolate milk shake.
Then it's off to the movies: the latest Star Wars epic, a hot dog,
popcorn, all the Coke she can drink, her favorite lollipop and M&Ms .
What a fabulous adventure!
Finally she wobbles home with her husband and collapses onto the bed
exhausted.
He leans over his precious wife with a big smile and lovingly asks
"Well
Dear, what was it like being eight again?"
Her eyes slowly open and then narrow into a glare. "I meant my
dress size, you idiot.
The moral of this story: Receiving is an art. |
Don't you just eight it when that
happens? |
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Mon, 12 Feb
2007
Poker and Hiding Feelings
A friend of mine has started playing poker online in his spare time. I
notice the similarities to trading more and more the more I talk to him.
I have no knowledge of poker and don’t really have an urge to play even
though he seems to be doing well. I’m pleased I don’t follow him in
learning the game. I guess when I overcame my day trading addiction it
put an end to short term speculation for me and paved the way for
building a lasting system and life style.
I pass on ‘The Trading Tribe’ to him.
He reads the first few pages and comes into my office looking at me like
I’m mad; it doesn’t apply to him.
I know he’ll be back for it.
You can hide your feelings but you can’t hide the results of hiding from
your feelings.
I feel part of the TTP world although I still stop myself from becoming
further involved and joining a tribe.
To quote a TTP user ‘This stuff works!’
Thanks Ed for TTP. |
Thank you for sharing your
process.

Poker is a Game
in which you try
to hide your feelings
while you also try
to read the feelings of others.
Clip:
http://filebox.vt.edu/users/amadden/
eleanor/poker%20face.jpg |
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Mon, 12 Feb
2007
Dealing with a Bossy Sister
Hi Ed!
I have a sister that always tells me what to do. I get irritated by
this, but I don't want to get into her game of always telling her in
reply what she should do - like stop telling everyone what to do.
Instead I try to just feel the feeling when I feel hurt, but much too
often it affects me and in some "Karma-way" I often sooner or later
continue the drama by giving words to my feelings, trying to defend me.
Is it a matter of self discipline to learn live with hurt feelings or is
it more right to immediately respond to someone's negative behavior?
When
I write this I still consider the right thing should be to accept the
feeling without the need to defend me.
If I can do that, I will be more
free. If I let people think whatever they want of me without my need to
explain, I guess I will find some peace.
I will try to take this to the Trading Tribe and do some roll-playing. I
also think about the rocks-process when I write this but forget it
while it happens.
I now write up my rocks: They seems to be "The unaffected", "The Hard
Worker", "The Explainer" and "The Defender".
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You might consider thanking your
sister for helping you identify your issues with setting your
boundaries.

Brother and Sister
can transform their relationship
by receiving each other.
Brother can start it off
by receiving sister.
Clip:
http://www.cqcapd.state.ny.us/Danweb/
pastissues/oldissues/1998/Marcus.htm |
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Sun, 11 Feb
2007
TTP With
Mom
Dear Ed,
The reports from your workshop are very inspiring. Funny enough I had
some incredible serenity and contentment over here, too. No wanting any
more, everything was ok.
Status is gone when I have contact with a guy. Nevertheless I am very
grateful, that I experienced it.
Meanwhile, I have plenty of time to discover that I am the "day trader",
not my dear friend. You don't even need to day trade to do this sort of
addictive trading. Staring hours and hours at your charts, watch lists
and percentages of gains and losses is enough to get the effect ... I am
about to buy a faster computer, use your ten-percent-rule concerning
leveraged investment and find less time-consuming ways to select stock.
I also notice that I am still rowing around the more important issues of
life. It goes backward and forward. I am most inspired by your book then
again regress and frustration. I know ...
We have plans doing TTP and now I get the idea to move back to my
hometown. This idea of moving is in my head for years. Now it turns out
to be my hometown. I see that I really like the town and I have more
friends there than anywhere else. On the other hand it doesn't make me
content right now. Actually, this is it again, the form of pouting or
being not content as I see now.
Just wanted to say "hello" and now I am writing such a story.
Looks like we should try TTP here ASAP. Did it with my mother already
and loved the results.
Actually, I am really inspired by those lovely pictures of kids as of
January 19 and January 22. LAUGHTER. Fred likes them very much.
And I have ideas like: to get in contact with your inner child there has
to be something else in the head, some sort of grown up parts so to say.
Hmmm, what are the advantages of growing up? I found some, but also
suspect that our civilization is not always supporting this sort of
progress. But thinking about it seems to promote the process.
I hope you find your home.
With love,
PS: I like your book a lot especially the chapter about intimacy.
Not to forget the banjo joke :-)
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Thank you for sharing your
process.

Mothers and Daughters

Can Have Their Moments
Clips:
http://www.bridges4kids.org/lead-articles.html
http://www.artsforge.com/boris/motherdtr.html |
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Sun, 11 Feb
2007
Fractal
Video
Dear Ed
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPoRC_m7OgE
I come across this and your fractal poem immediately springs to mind.
Kindest regards,
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Thanks for the URL. |
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Sun, 11 Feb
2007
Visitor to
IV Tribe
Deals with
Emotional Hunger
Dear Ed,
I want to thank you and the IV Tribe for helping me with my recent "gut"
problem.
As you recall, I was experiencing a deep, gnawing ache in the center of
my body -- a kind of "super hunger" that felt like I hadn't eaten in
weeks. I was certain this was a physiologic state -- and I kept eating
to try to alleviate the gnawing sensation. No amount or type of food
helped.
I am one who finds it easy to gain weight, so my weight (which was
already at it's usual annual post-holiday peak ) went up another 6
pounds in a month. I overshot my stop!! Yet the ache continued.
Additionally, I was having difficulty finding my voice in my
interpersonal relationships. A close friend was trying to control a
situation that I was responsible for, and a person whom I was interested
in romantically seemed to be leading me on -- calling frequently, but
never arranging any face to face contact.
A month after
Christmas, he still had not been here to exchange gifts. I felt annoyed
at my controlling friend, and saddened by the reluctance of my new lover
to want to see me ... it was during this time that the "hunger" started
...
I relayed this during a tribe meeting, and thereafter took the hot seat.
After experiencing the hollow gnawing feeling at it's peak intensity,
The PM asked me to recall the first time I had experienced this. The
following scenario popped into my consciousness from my childhood:
At around age 9, I had requested and been allowed to take my sisters new
puppy across a busy street one late afternoon just prior to rush hour. I
wanted to show the dog to my playmates. The puppy had not yet been
trained and was wild and incorrigible. He was also quite strong. He
wrenched free from my hold on the leash, ran into the street and was
killed as I looked on in horror.
In the ensuing
drama, I was callously attacked and blamed for the dogs death by my
sister, and I watched as my father called the hapless driver on the
phone and yelled and swore at him for his part.
My mother, who
had set the drama in motion by failing to use good judgment and also
giving ownership to my sisters possession without her knowledge or
consent, watched passively as all this took place.
I relayed this scenario to the PM and with the help of another tribe
member we replayed it. I felt the pang of horror, sadness and guilt as
the puppy was crushed by the wheels of the car, and emerged bloody and
lifeless.
A tribe member
emerged at that point, and pressed a rock into my hand. He represented
my mother, first on the scene and who, it may be noted, was one who had
used food to medicate and stuff her emotions for most of her life. She
was, at this point, quite obese. "Take this rock and use it when you
feel like this" the tribe member / mother said. "It's how we do it. It
will work to take away that pain you are feeling." I took the rock.
We took a short break, and after resuming we replayed the scenario. The
role player asked me to relinquish the old rock, and instead gave me a
new rock. Into the new rock I had pressed a whole new set of tools to
use when I felt like this, such as:
1. don't
numb out - say how you feel.
2. allow
the other person to reveal their feelings.
3.
negotiate compromises.
4. ask for
help when you need it.
5. don't
allow others to decide how you feel - speak up
6. if need
be, remove yourself from the situation etc etc.
After taking
the new rock, we replayed not only the original scenario, but a number
of recent ones in which I was having trouble "finding my voice".
When the PM tried to role play a misogynistic middle manager at my job
and was swiftly and effectively dealt with, we knew the process was not
only successful but complete. We left to go to dinner, and my hunger
seemed appropriate. I had not eaten since breakfast. It did not seem
like the perverted "super hunger" that I had been experiencing.
Though impressed by the apparent change in my responses, I wasn't sure
how durable this would turn out to be. Imagine my surprise when, the
very next day, I let go out the trip I had been planning (and my friend
was trying to control).
I didn't
recognize that this was new behavior for me until after the fact. Two
days later, I wrote my lover, expressing my sadness at his reluctance to
put any sort of meaningful effort into seeing me and asking that he not
call me for now, so I could transition the relationship into a
friendship without being muddled by direct contact with him. The same
day, I sent back his Christmas and birthday gifts. I also changed the
reservations of a dive trip that we talked about going on together to
something that I could afford to do my myself.
I put a profile back up on a dating site, and went out on three dates
last week. Interestingly enough, I also met a man in the very same town
that my lover lives in, better educated, more available, great at
communicating, who has invited me there to ski next weekend. So, it
seems things have taken a 180 for me!
Frankly, Though I have gained benefit from TTP, I was skeptical of
ROCKS. But I have to quote an old adage that says: " the proof of the
pudding is in the eating." In that regard, my "super hungry"
feeling is gone.
Many thanks to you and the IV Tribe.
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Thank you for sharing your
process.

When Eating Medicates Sadness
dealing with the sadness
removes the need to eat.
Clip:
http://www.meltfat.org/index2.htm
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Thu, 08
Feb 2007
Sure Thing Trade #2
see: previous
If you got in on [Stock] when we called it for Wednesday
then you are Enjoying your 110% gains! Well done!
But the rally on this High Tech Winner is not over! What
we have seen is only the accumulation period before the
smashing earnings report is released!
Watch [Stock] easily run up to Fifteen cents. |
I include this letter as another example
of a FR/CT (Free Recommendation / Confident Tone.)
Notice the letter arrives well after
the move. Curiously, I don't recall getting any letter before the move.
I see no way of getting 110% gains, even by following the impossible
(you have to act in the past) instructions.

Stock Chart
Black circle indicates
date of arrival of recommendation.
Red oval indicates
date of claim to recommend.
Buying on this recommendation
results in about a 33% loss
over the next few days. |
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Thu, 8 Feb
2007
Feelings Coming Up
Ed,
Reno workshop is one month ago. I feel great within this month,
peaceful,
creative and energetic.
Intimacy with my love ones is getting better. My process in the trading
system
development moves
forward dramatically.
I learn a lot about trading by doing research,
coding and
testing. Even my
mediation practice improves quite much. I am able to go into a mindful
state,
neither awaken
as normal nor falling into sleep, after ten to twenty minutes deep
breath. I
can stay in the
mindful state for about thirty to forty minutes. Overall, I feel that my
life is
in a healthy uptrend.
But within recent a few days, I feel that both my physical and mental
state
shift dramatically. I feel pain
in low right side of my stomach. It is very tight and tense. It seems
that
energies amass there and
try to burst out.
My emotion is also not stable, easy to be angry. I am
totally
aware of this and try to
fully feel and experience it by myself, but I can't. So I try to control
my
emotion, it is even getting worse.
Finally, I act it out as a drama last night. It hurts my loves. I feel
guilty
and sad, very strong. I am so eager
to take a hot seat in a tribe. I feel that my life is now shifting to a
downtrend, I choose to find a way to cut loss
short. I try my best to stay with my feelings, expecting to experience
more.
I apply for the entry to a local tribe right after the workshop. The
process is
still ongoing. As a part of the process,
I join one session as an observer. I enjoy the experience very much. The
tribe
leader and its members are
excellent TTP practitioners. I wish I can join them soon.
Best wishes to you and your family. |
Thank you for sharing your process.
You might consider identifying the
positive intentions of your feelings.
Trying to "control" your feelings
may be like trying to "control" a person who is attempting to being you
some valuable information.

If You Try to Control Your Feelings
you might wind up
making them tighter.
Clip:
http://ifec.open.ac.uk/images/wrench.jpg |
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Thu, 8 Feb
2007
Rocks Process - "It's all Bulls---"
Hi Ed,
As promised I’m submitting my recap of the Rocks process we did two
weeks ago in Austin.
I can’t say I’ve had any real changes or Aha’s since then but am still
very grateful for your insights and help.
The recap is below. I'm not sure if I've got the complete sequence down
correctly (especially how we got onto the subject of Bulls--- but I'm
guessing it's not too serious because it's all Bull--- anyway :-)
Rocks Process – January 25th 2007, Austin, TX
The Process Manager asks me if I would like to do a hot-seat session. I
begin to ramble on about definitely being willing but not sure if I
would like to go ahead with a session now (this is not the first time
I've hemmed and hawed and hesitated indecisively when given the
opportunity to go on the hot seat).
When the process manager tries to
clarify if I have any feelings I’d like to take to the hot-seat I
immediately respond that I do have problems but defend my indecision to
go on the hot-seat. When asked what my problem is, I'm indecisive again,
saying that the problem is I'm stuck - I'm not moving forward in my
life.
Ed steps in and is persistent in questioning me, probing to find
out exactly what my problem is. He doesn't see any problem - he's not
buying into my drama. He asks for evidence of being stuck. I respond
‘I’m just not getting ahead, I’m stuck’ He asks me what I want to do
that I'm not doing. I respond 'there is so much I want to do'. I list a
few things. He picks one - 'travel to India' and asks why I'm not doing
it. I blame my stuck ness - 'that's my problem'.
We have a discussion about problems, about avoidance of problems and how
everyone has problems. Even Bill Gates has problems - he chooses to get
rich, follow his vision, move forward and deal with the problems along
the way. Ed likens my situation to a Mobius strip which feels very apt.
The mind feeds on the mind and gets into an irresolvable loop.
The conversation is moving fast and I complain that it's all Bulls---.
The tribe members agree. Yes, it's all BS. Everything is BS. As I
accelerate and get more animated about the BS my Tribe affirms my
feelings and agree with me.
Ed says 'you like to complain a lot'. I admit it. I'm asked who in my family
complained a lot. I see that it was my Mother. I see that my Father just
tolerated his 'lot', put up with the complaining and didn't do anything
about it. He just worked hard, sucked it in and tried unsuccessfully to
lessen the complaints.
I'm soon asking to take this 'BS' form to the hot-seat.
I take the 'Bulls--- form to the hot-seat. Twisting my hands, flinging
my arms out and shouting "It's BS, it's BS it's all BS". I'm encouraged
to turn it up. I really get into it. Shouting all the time "It's all
BS". At the peak I'm asked to freeze and then recall a time when I
am
young that feels the same. Although before I had started the hot-seat
session I had expressed my concern and anxiety about finding the right
'scene' to take to the rocks process (Ed cleverly reminded me that it
doesn't matter because it's all BS anyway) I have no difficulty at all
in coming up with a scene in the classroom.
My teacher is teaching us writing skills. I start to cry. I sob
uncontrollably. I calm down. I’m asked what I’m feeling. I'm 6 years
old. The sun is shining, the sky is a beautiful blue and I'm stuck in
this classroom doing this BS, writing 'l's over and over and over. I'm
bored. I want to be outside and instead I'm having to deal with this BS.
The Process Manager chooses some role players and we begin with me in
the classroom being bored, irritated and frustrated and the Teacher
droning on and on. I go home and my Father and Mother hand me a
medicinal rock.
My Father explains that there is no solution for these
feelings - the best is just put up with it and be a 'good boy'. My
Mother shows me how to complain - that's what she does to cope with
those feelings.
We role play later events where I'm stuck doing work that I feel is 'BS'
and that I'd rather be enjoying myself elsewhere. From real life
incidents such as moving hay bales, to shoveling pig s--- to being
trapped in a College classroom I consistently use my medicinal rock and
am a good boy yet moan and complain. I see the pattern clearly.
I'm asked if I'd like to let go of the medicinal rock. I open my palm
and there is a slight hesitation but I let it fall.
The messenger (Ed) then approaches me with a different rock and explains
we are going to charge this rock with some new resources. I will then be
able to use it in similar situations and be far better equipped to
handle those feelings of boredom and frustration. All tribe members
contribute with a variety of resources that include:
do nothing (put up with it)
complain (the old rock)
ask for explanation (seek understanding for reasons)
negotiate
ask about other persons feelings
relate my feelings
explain my point of view
ask for help from someone else
discuss / investigate alternatives
create new challenges
re-structure the work
use time effectively (do something more enjoyable during boring periods)
I accept the new resource filled rock (although I do show some
resistance saying 'this is BS' and accuse the messenger of being the
biggest BS'er).
We role play the scene in the classroom again but this time I put up my
hand and have an interesting dialog with the Teacher and I'm supported
by my classmates. I also have a useful discussion with the Principal who
agrees to talk to my Parents and Teachers and find more challenges for
me. Similarly, when re-role playing the later dramas I draw on my new
resources and have interesting and fruitful discussions with my Father
and College professor. I feel empowered and energized.
We all check-out and I release my fellow Tribe members from their roles.
Thoughts and Feelings After the Rocks Process
I’m writing this 2 weeks after the Rocks process and am not sure if
anything has changed in my life from a holistic or energetic perspective
(I guess I was hoping for some type of ‘shift’).
However, I am very
thankful and feel positive from an intellectual standpoint. I understand
my family of origin dynamics better now and am being alert and aware
about these old patterns playing out in my daily life. |
Thank you for sharing your process.

Complaining
can have a positive intention.
Clip:
http://www.funlol.com/funpages/
licensetocomplain.html |
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Thu, 8 Feb
2007
Austin Workshop
Even though I just finished the January Reno workshop last month I am
interested in attending the Austin workshop to work on more issues.
|
We are currently planning the Austin
Workshop. |
|
Thu, 8 Feb
2007
Feeling
Conflict after Rock Process
(Inter-Tribe Communication from [City] Tribe)
I am feeling some internal conflict. I have noticed this only in the
last few days and the intensity
-----
Your conscious mind may be uncomfortable and disoriented with your gut
reactions (your new rock) and is trying to force yourself to revert to
the reactions you are more used to (the old rock). At the same time,
your new gut reactions are saying “GET THE F--- OFF ME” to your old
rock.
I am recognizing the sense of conflict and disorientation you are
experiencing. I believe it is a sign of adapting to a lasting change. We
are used to the “medication” of TTP which can wear off sometimes. Do you
have your new rock with you? Put it in your pocket and/or hold it in
your hand. Recall the wisdom and caring of the Tribe and yourself that
was put into that rock to supplement your fear controlled state. If you
do not have the rock right now, go get it when you can and in the
meantime, reflect back on the last Tribe meeting and the sense that you
had after our role play at the chalkboard. |
I wonder if you can tell me the medicine in your original (medicinal)
rock
and the resources in your new (resources) rock.

Conflict Indicates
Objects not yet in settlement
Clip:
http://www.the-nextlevel.com/reviews/
ps2/def-jam-fight-ny/def-jam-fight-ny-b.jpg |
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Thu, 8 Feb
2007
Wants to Know the Cause of the Trading Tribe
Dear Ed,
I have read your book on the Tribe Meetings. I have a question: what
motivated you to start the meetings? |
In the system model, we hold that
all things influence all other things and co-evolve in the everlasting
moment of now.
In the causal model, we have an
isolating one-on-one cause and effect. The causal model finds use
in simple physics and in law and politics where one party wants to
establish another party as the "cause" or "guilty" and thereby gain
advantage. |
|
Wed, 7 Feb
2007
Dead Link
Ed,
the link that seems to be dead is
http://www.seykota.com/tribe/
Associate_Program/index.htm |
Thank you for the catch.
Try it now. |
|
Wed, 07 Feb
2007
More on Course of Miracles
see:
Previous
Ed Says:
If you follow Course of Miracles, you might consider examining your
feelings about the positive intentions of fear and guilt.
I've been mulling this over. From my understanding of "A Course in
Miracles", the ego's intention for guilt is to keep the mind focused on
negative events of the past. The ego's intention for fear is to keep the
mind focused on possible negative events in the future. In both cases
the ego's intention is to prevent the mind from focusing on Now. |
Thank you for sharing your process. |
|
Wed, 7 Feb
2007
Wants to Know what He Should Do
Dear Ed,
According to many traders, the systems that we develop should work in
all
markets in order to be robust.
But on the other hand, each market has
its own
characteristics and therefore it is very hard to come with a system
which works in
all markets. This is especially the case for the stock market
(individual
stocks).
At this point, should I use a different system for stocks in general and
another system for futures etc.
Thanks for your comments. |
To paraphrase your contribution:
1. Many traders say something
"should" work.
2. You have difficulties doing it.
3. You ask me what you "should" do.
FAQ does not tell people what they
"should" do. See ground rules.
You might consider:
1. asking "many traders" how they do
it.
2. taking your questions to your
Tribe. |
|
Wed, 7 Feb
2007
Wants to Follow the Rules
Hi Ed!
Now I have made my backtest on the system I have presented to you. The
risk was too high! I sold out everything and before I start all over
again I start with back tests. The results were +10% since the start two
months ago so I feel lucky. The system I closed is only one of my three
different trading models I am trading simultaneously and only around 10%
of my capital.
I have always wanted to be able to trade all markets but maybe my
ranking makes me trade fully when markets aren't that good for trend
following systems. I am influenced by the trading turtle program on that
point. I think it might be better to trade only a few markets and wait
for the signals in these markets.
One of my snapshots is: "I can trade any market profitably without even
knowing the underlying instrument". In my model I make a transition for
all markets so they can be measured equally and therefore ranked, but my
money management principle of always having 40-50% of my capital as
Stop-Loss risk was to high, both for the system and probably also for my
gut feeling.
There are so many things I want to test regarding trading and I really
love to do it so the ambition is all right. Sometimes I consider my
systematic approach is a little bit inefficient. I mostly use excel
nowadays.
My plan is to trade the best system I can come up with until I
find a better one. Then I wait for my system-change date, and change it
all. The end of this system was made after the system-change date but I
did addressed the issue if the risk was proven too high (with back tests).
I am trying to convince myself that I actually followed my model when I
closed all positions.
Further on I also have a plan of a new snapshot whenever someone wants to
invest "I can clearly present my model, show track record and offer a
way to invest." In my snapshot I plan to open up an account in which I
trade my model without breaking the rules. |
Thank you for sharing your process.

Sometimes, Following The Rules
may have associations
with deep feelings,
CLip:
http://theredletters.mlblogs.com/
my_weblog/2006/03/index.html |
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Tue, 6 Feb
2007
Trading Tribe Apprentice Program
Hi Ed,
Today I find out some very good news with regards to my work.
The last
year is an uphill struggle, tough and challenging but I stick it through
and insist on staying the course even though I have many thoughts of
jumping ship or running away.
What feels good is not the best thing to
do! I keep this in mind and persist. I notice how I stop running away
from situations and have built more confidence in rising up to
challenges that I would usually just walk away from.
I also stop
running / jogging a couple of months after the Breathwork. Doing this
comes naturally as I mull over [Name's] comments about me wanting to hurt
others and running away. I don't want to hurt anyone and I am clear
about my intentions towards others. I also retire my marathon snapshot -
no more running! Funnily enough I have picked up a new activity at the
gym - cycling / spinning. Staying put and sweating it out rather than
running away to no where. It feels good to stay put.
Ed I have yet to hear from you with regards to the Apprentice program
and wonder if this is still on and how I can get going with this. I am
very keen and determined to progress with TTP and personal growth. Are
you also open to discussing the possibility of an apprentice spending
some time with you in Incline at some point of the program?
Thanks again Ed for FAQ the insight and wisdom you provide to us all.
|
We are currently contacting all
apprentices, aligning interests and scheduling projects.
For more information, see
Associates Program. |
|
Tue, 6 Feb
2007
Loneliness Could Boost Alzheimer's Risk
Ed,
TUESDAY, Feb. 6 (HealthDay News) -- Being lonely may increase the risk
of developing Alzheimer's disease later in life, new research suggests.
Source:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/hsn/20070206/
hl_hsn/lonelinesscouldboostalzheimersrisk
|
Yes, one way to "medicate" sadness
is to forget about it.

Clip:
http://www.nevtron.si/borderline/forget.gif |
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Tue, 6 Feb
2007
Cold Winters = Move to Warm Climate
I hear you’re going cowboy, is it true?
|
Yes, I am considering a move to
Austin Texas.

Shoveling Snow
is a popular pastime
in Incline Village

Waiting For the Snow to Fall
in Barton Springs, Austin Texas
Clip:
http://www.biologicaldiversity.org/swcbd/
PRESS/barton1-26-04.htm |
|
Mon, 5 Feb
2007
Heart Disease
Results from Loneliness
Ed,
CHICAGO (Reuters) - Depression, severe mental illness and loneliness are
linked to illnesses such as heart disease and dementia, according to
several studies.
Source:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070205/
wl_canada_nm/canada_depression_heart_col
|
Yes, disease can "medicate" sadness.

Heart Attack is Generally Effective
in "medicating" loneliness.
Clip:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/
medical_notes/g-i/764015.stm |
|
Mon, 5 Feb
2007
Counter Trend Risk Control in Open Positions
Dear Chief Ed,
Ed says: Lightening up in response to your
feelings might be less of a counter-trend strategy than a
counter-risk-strategy. (and) I like the rule : manage risk. (and)
Remember to keep position size proportional to volatility.
So as the bull trend progresses, and tends to increase in volatility,
should the rules read,
Manage initial risk (and)
keep initial position size proportional to volatility ?
Thank you for your guidance in tackling these issues as they tend to
test the stomach lining - and dealing with these feelings whilst in a
trade, seem to be the real test of one's trading system ... |
FAQ does not tell people what they
"should" do. See ground rules.
Another set of trading rules:
Buy some good stock that goes up a
lot and then get out near the top and if it doesn't go up a lot then
don't buy it in the first place. |
|
Sun, 04 Feb
2007
Trading Tribe Book - Wholesale ?
Wholesale on a book is 40% of the cover price.
There are no copies of the book for sale on
www.Amazon.com . If you wanted,
you
could sell the book there. If you don't want to deal with the hassle; I
could buy wholesale and see if some copies could be sold there. |
Yes, you may buy the book wholesale,
at the same price as retail.
The book continues to sell nicely. I
expect it to sell out soon. I am working on another one. |
|
Sun, 4 Feb
2007
New US
Emblem

New US Government Seal
Official Announcement:
A bi-partisan committee announces
effective immediately,
the country's emblem changes
from the Eagle to the Condom
since it more accurately reflects
the spirit in Washington.
A condom allows for inflation,
halts production,
destroys the
next generation,
protects a bunch of pricks,
and gives you a sense of
security
while you're actually being screwed.
|
You might also consider "wrapping
the rascal" in red tape. |
|
Sat, 3 Feb
2007
The Liberal Mind:
The
Psychological Causes of Political Madness
(book review)
Certain neurotic themes are dominant in the radical liberal mind’s
perceptions of the world. All of them portray the citizen as a suffering
child who is victimized, helpless and in need of rescue. All are evident
in various liberal platforms. They represent the liberal mind’s
transference of childhood dynamics into the world of adult
relationships. As expressed in his most passionate political
pronouncements, the radical liberal mind believes that:
A very
large portion of the population is suffering; from injustices inflicted upon them.
They are helpless to stop their suffering.
Bad people, such as capitalists and the rich, cause the victims to
suffer by depriving, neglecting, exploiting and abusing them.
The bad institutions supported by the villains are economic, social and
political in nature; they include free market capitalism, basic property
rights, strict moral and ethical accountability, reasonable social
decorum, personal and financial responsibility, individual sovereignty,
and justice based on merit and desert.
Modern liberals are heroes whose mission is to rescue the victims from
the villains.
Most citizens need a powerful liberal government to direct and manage
their lives.
The Modern Parental State is the answer to problems created by the
villains.
Much of the suffering of the victims comes from too much freedom in
economic markets, which allows the villains to exploit the victims for
unjust gain.
They are the liberal’s projections of a painful neurotic disorder; they
are the legacy of his childhood.
They represent his desperate longings for attachment, attention,
affection, empathy, significance, esteem, adoration, recognition,
indulgence, relatedness, guidance, direction, belonging and love.
They represent his desperate efforts to heal real emotional wounds that
he suffered when he was, in fact, significantly deprived, neglected,
exploited or abused.
-----
Lyle H. Rossiter, Jr, MD receives his medical and
psychiatric training at the University of Chicago and serves for two
years as a psychiatrist in the United States Army. He is currently in
private practice in the Chicago area. |
I feel that extreme liberal and
extreme conservative views are both forms of medication for sadness.

Modern Politics
has less to do with finding solutions
to underlying problems
than with finding
ways to medicate sadness.
Clip:
http://www.burningchrome.com/
mt/stan/Politics.html |
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Sat, 3 Feb
2007
Alcohol and Drugs and Addiction and TTP
Something I am thinking about is "alcoholics" and "drug addicts."
Something
that seems frightfully ridiculous is the forceful use, in some groups, of the
acknowledgement of
I am an "Alcoholic" or "Drug Addict."
I heard someone say I am an
alcoholic and
I felt so much sadness immediately and felt no release from them.
I still maintain it is all about sadness and this yet another dose of
medicine
and most likely why the rehab ratio is no better than 3 percent.
If you look at the actions of drug addicts and alcoholics as they
venture down
the path it is obvious it is about losing, or sadness that they are
trying to
feel. The further they get into it the more they lose people, money,
possessions, and health.
I think this is potentially one of the most amazing breakthroughs of our
time
that has the ability to change the lives of tens of millions of people. |
The human emotional processing
engine sits on top of an organic servo-system that regulates our
internal state.
As servos, we respond to an "error
signal" or a delta change from normal. When we are too dry, the
error signal generates "thirst" and we find water with which to
"medicate" the feeling.
When we sense loss, the "error
signal" appears as sadness. Some forms of loss require complex
remedies, or in TTP parlance, an effective Resource Rock. The
Resource Rock responds to the sadness and provides a number of effective
strategies for dealing with the situation precipitating the loss.
Sometimes, during our formative
years, an important role model gives us a Medicine Rock. The
Medicine Rock responds to sadness with ways to mask the sadness, without
dealing with the underlying situation.
The TTP Rocks Process helps identify
Medicine Rocks and to replace them with Resource Rocks.
In some cases, the Medicine Rock may
indicate consuming drugs and / or alcohol as a way to mask sadness.
TTP provides a way to re-program gut responses to sadness so that we
have many other healthy ways to respond to sadness.

Too Drunk to Send
One of The Main Concerns
with using TTP (or other methods)
to treat substance abuse
is how to keep the user
from sliding off the chair.
Clip:
http://www.duncancumming.co.uk/
photos.cfm?photo=398 |
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