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Thu, 20 Apr
2006
Wondering
Hi Ed,
I had a tribe meeting on Tuesday, and I was on the hot seat. I find
myself consciously holding my breath till I cannot hold it anymore (it
feels VERY intense and painful). I do that for about ten times, and then
it feels so tiresome and painful that I choose not to do it any more.
I am concerned that maybe it is all just DIM, as I can consciously think
of whether or not to continue with this
"hold-my-breath-till-I-can't-anymore" game.
Despite
intense feelings (suffocating pain), I think it isn't quite the "follow
whatever feeling that comes up" that TTP teaches, because I am
"directing" it.
I am wondering
if it's DIM, even when there's a receiver. Yes, he cheers me with all
his might, but many time I find myself thinking, "Hmmm OK, I think I
should crank it up and try to freeze it ... Do I like this feeling?
Hmmm, no? OK, can you feel the not like this feeling?"
So maybe the way out is to go with the flow, "OK, keep doing this
thinking in my head. Keep 'directing' the process. More of that."
But
then it just means getting myself more DIM and even more DIM. At this
point, I think "OK, the way out is to feel how it feels like to keep
DIM." But that's precisely the problem, as I'm still "directing" what I
"should be" feeling!
May I ask for your insights? Thanks.
P.S.
After I finish the "hold-my-breath-till-I-can't-anymore" game and
feeling very uncomfortable and desperately grasping for air, somehow I
think about Breathwork. |
You might consider taking the
feeling of being stuck in self-directing your own self-reflection to
your Tribe as an entry point.

DIM (Do It Myself) Processing
is like taking a picture
of yourself
taking a picture of yourself
doing the above.
Clip:
http://wvs.topleftpixel.com/photos/
self_reflection_school_bus.jpg
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Thu, 20 Apr
2006
Hot Face
Hi Ed,
At the most recent tribe meeting, we make a concerted effort to log in
our feelings upon conclusion of the snapshot process. We intend to take
these feelings into the tribe meeting that evening. My feeling during
the snapshot process is very familiar to me. I feel hot in the face,
anxious, sweaty hands.
That evening, I take the hot seat and get into the feeling of heat in
my face, heavy breathing, and anxiety. I go through these forms and
begin to crunch up into my legs until I have difficulty breathing and my
face feels like it’s going to explode.
At first, it’s uncomfortable and scary. After a time, I
begin to really enjoy doing this. I like the heat in my face and the
crunching … I feel strong and powerful. I realize that these are just
feelings that I have in certain situations. The more I experience them
the more I like them and see their benefits. I feel them slowly
integrating back into me in a positive way.
Thanks for all you do, |
Thank you for sharing your process.

Heat in the Face
might be embarrassment
or simply the feeling
of being strong and powerful.
http://www.graphics.com/modules.php?set_album
Name=album315&id=fire_face1&op=modload&
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Thu, 20 Apr
2006
Intention
and
Result
Ed,
In order to say A = B, one must measure A and B independently,
and in units having the same dimensions.
One can measure Intentions, in as much as one can "measure" them,
only by measuring the Results.
Thus two
Intentions are comparable, two Results are comparable,
but an Intention and a Result are incomparable.
I propose that the statement:
"Intentions equal Results"
is imprecise and that we write it more precisely as:
"Intentions manifest as Results."
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Here is my pollinator report, (for
Mon, Oct 17, 2005) as per commitment:
Last Thursday, I visit Incline Village Trading Tribe. Wow! Being there
is akin to stepping into a different world altogether. A world where
things just are, and time stands still.
Unsure whether
NV is an hour ahead of CA (it is not), I actually reach well ahead of
2pm, Ed is in great health and good cheer. I ask him if I am early or
late; he responds, characteristically, "You are here in the now". We
chat for half an hour, mostly about his TSP precision issues and about
my research.
Then people start filing in, we begin just after 2 PM with "15min
Snapshots", where everyone updates their previous Snapshots and on their
progress toward them. I get feedback on my two Snapshots, relating to
lack of clarity in my motivation and emotion.
We have dinner
watching a beautiful sunset on the lake. TTP session begins after dinner
and goes on until close to 3 AM. Some very intense work from all the
participants. Great commitment, great support, great insights. I learn
to manage a hotseat by doing one and watching many in action.
I take the hotseat early and everyone is fresh and enthusiastic in
supporting my forms. My issue is with procrastination, and I have
various forms, only some of which I remember, like beating myself and
humming and screaming, but I get an Aha out of it that the positive
intention of my procrastination is to get me to fully experience my
feelings of loss and sadness, which I intend to take to my next hotseat!
Listening and talking to Ed, especially after the "w-----" TTP, I also
get an insight into how the process works in dissolving issues that
seemingly do not relate to what one takes to the hotseat. I make a
mental picture of various forms being magnets beneath a sheet of thin
cardboard and issues sticking to them above the cardboard like little
pieces of metal, and TTP demagnetizing the forms, and the issues fall
off. Above the surface one sees no correlation between the hotseat and
the issues resolving almost like magic.
Anyway, this is the first time I have been in a trading tribe this big
and after participating in 11 hot seat sessions in a row, many of them
highly intense, I sleep like a log well into the morning and find I am
the last person still there! Ed and I chat for a while about various
topics, and I watch him unload his dishwasher for the 4th time in 20
hours (Does he even load the dishwasher? When? I only notice him
constantly removing the clean dishes. Hmm.) and then I leave.
I get back home and notice a change in my reaction to procrastination. I
no longer feel bad or guilty about not doing what I "should". In fact,
as soon as I let myself procrastinate all the more without judgment, I
find that I no longer want to! Well, maybe I just want to put off
putting things off, as someone says during my TTP. I wish to thank Ed
and the IV Tribe for this experience of "the simple support and
[no] resistance system".
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Intention = Result.
The thing you state as your
intention may not be your real intention. In that case, you intend
to not manifest your statement intention as part of a larger (secret)
intention.
For example, you promise to
show up on time and show up late. Your intention may be to gain
attention by making people wait for you.
I notice your pollinator report
(from 6 months ago) has many references to procrastination and time.

Sometimes the Intention
of stating an intention
and not fulfilling it
is to gain attention
Clip: vhttp://ulsterproject.celtic-twilight.com/
kids2005/up2005_11.jpg |
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Wed, 19 Apr
2006
Cruising
Through Conflict
Dear Ed,
I write to share my snapshot, hotseat and results.
During the snapshot process, after I present my first drawing, I
understand from others in the group that right livelihood is about
focusing on the positive, on the outcome I want and the one that brings
good emotions, and that is not detrimental to anyone.
I understand
that if I focus on the positive, on something good, any negative issues
take care of themselves.
So instead of focusing on the treatment
certain bad people deserve, I make a snapshot of a motor boat in the
tropics and I’m on the motorboat with my girlfriend and another couple.
On round 2, I change my snapshot to a sailboat, still in the warm sun of
the tropics.
During my hotseat, I bring up an issue I have with some bad people, a
situation that makes me very angry. I go through my form, I kick, I
pound, I hit, I scream. After some time, I feel light, relaxed, at
peace, at the zero point.
The
negative energy is gone, I am centered. One week later, I have a meeting
wherein I confront my opponents. My thoughts are clear, my voice is now
loud, imposing, a change from the past. I feel imposing, authoritative,
I am on point, I feel relaxed and I leave the meeting satisfied that
I’ve stated my position, I am content to accept the outcome whatever it
may be. This is a change from the past, a nice change. What a change!
One week later, I get a call from a family member who offers me a
cruise to the arctic (?). I did not recently, or in the last year or two
express any desire to anyone aside from my tribe to go on a cruise. I am
speechless.
The following day, during another negotiation, my partner obtains a
first win for us. |
Thank you for sharing your process.

Snapshots
tend to materialize
Clip:
http://www.hungaryteens.com/gallery/
180-girl-boat/01_beautiful_naked_girls.jpg
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Wed, 19 Apr 2006
Riding the
Waves
Ed says: "Traders and Surfers both have to deal with feelings of missing
out on the small ones, until the big one comes along. They also have to
deal with feelings of staying with the big one."
Here is parts of an interesting interview ... :
One of the
things I noticed about the boards when I was watching The Ride / The Day
is they seem to work unreal except when you're dealing with chop. It
seems like chop is the main issue for board design.
Laird Hamilton: And speed, speed, speed! You know, speed makes chop more
exaggerated. The faster you go the sooner you get to each one, so the
more choppy it seems. You know if you're going slow, each chop comes
slower and you're less effected by it and also chop comes in a few
different ways. It comes in from the wind, it comes in from refractions
off of the mountains, cliffs, jet skis. There are a bunch of factors
that create chop and each chop acts differently. There are boils on the
face that create bump. Everything has a different characteristic, but in
general chop, yeah chop, that's our biggest issue with going fast and
trying to keep it together.

Source:
http://surfermag.com/features/
onlineexclusives/lairdintrvu/index.html
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Yes.

In surfing, in Trading
and in life in general,
the limiting factor is often
our willingness to deal with chop.
Clip:
http://iwave.rsmas.miami.edu/surf/
gallery/photos/ygp6e20.jpg
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Wed, 19 Apr 2006
Finding a Programmer
Thought I'd share about what's happening on this end.
Intentions Equal Results
With vision and clear intention, I start at the
beginning. This time is different. This time I’m willing to succeed, and
this time I’m willing to allow life to direct the course, while I take
responsibility for my intentions.
TSP, Resources, Exponential Average System, System Math …
I feel my breath shorten, my chest tighten, my stomach become sick.
My thoughts explain, “I don’t know the math. I don’t
understand computer systems. I know nothing about programming
Life speaks, “Call somebody."
My thoughts continue, “ I want to do this myself. I’ll
never be able to find someone I trust. It’s important that I don’t rely
upon anyone.”
Life speaks, “You need a mathematician and computer
programmer, and they need you. Call somebody.”
With effort, I become willing to follow direction. I take
responsibility, and intend the result. Summing my energy and focus, I
clarify my intention. “I will find and develop a successful
relationship with a mathematician and a computer programmer who will
assist me in creating a Financial Trading System.”
My thoughts begin to act upon the subatomic particles in
the quantum micro world. Recognizing that there are an infinite number
of possibilities that exist for life, and that I have the power to
choose which possibility becomes reality, I take responsibility for my
existence and intend the results.
Within hours, I recall a childhood friend who graduated
with a degree in Computer Science. I pick up the phone. Directory
assistance connects me with his aunt, who puts me in touch with his
father, a retired Naval Admiral. I briefly explain that I am an old
friend and that I have a business idea that I want to run by his son.
Without question or emotion, he recites the number. I hang up wondering
about his thoughts and feelings? I call the number and receive an
answering machine. “This is Robert…. leave a message.”
Clarify Your Snapshot
Life has a way of asking you to do things that you just
don’t want to do.
“Clarify your snapshot.”
With effort, I become willing to follow direction: a
helicopter; a jet; a house on the beach with enough land for privacy and
horses; a yacht; one million dollars in cash; multiple stacks of gold
bars and bullion; a Taylor guitar; and my wife and I happy, healthy and
whole, sunbathing on the sandy beach beneath our home, peacefully
resting after having acquired all of our dreams… spiritually, mentally,
physically, emotionally, and financially. Snapshot complete.
“What’s going on” the voice on the other end of the phone
jabs? “It’s good to hear from you.” We talk briefly about our lives,
and I explain my intention. “I’m looking for a mathematician and
computer programmer who are interested in collaborating on the
development of a Financial Trading System.
I explain that I have been fortunate enough to develop a
relationship with one of the world’s greatest traders and that although
he won’t tell me where to enter and exit markets, he has agreed to teach
me how to build a successful trading system.
I explain that I cannot do this alone, and that to be
successful I must rely upon the strengths of others, and that is the
reason I am contacting him. I emphasize the importance of working with
someone I can trust. He expresses his appreciation and interest, and ads
that he has another person in mind that he thinks can help us.
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Thank you for sharing your process. |
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Wed, 19 Apr
2006
Trading
Process
Hi Ed,
During your
long and prosperous trading career have you ever implemented a trailing
stop into your trading process? |
All use stops and all stops trail
the price. |
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Wed, 19 Apr
2006
Breathwork Weekend
I'd like to attend the next Incline Village Breath Work |
I am currently still in planning. |
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Wed, 19 Apr
2006
Removing the Brain
My wife of seven years, also my best friend, has interests in shamanism,
ancient tribal practices, and what she terms the real story behind
Egypt. I find it very interesting when she notes the following:
Ancient Egyptians believed the heart was the center of feelings and
intelligence.
They thought so little of the brain that during
mummification, they removed the brain entirely from bodies. |
In TTP, we integrate heart
and mind.

Politicians are Living Proof
of being able to survive
without connecting from the heart.
Chip:
http://www.restoreliberty.com/
ch8religion.htm |
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Tue, 18 Apr
2006
Knowing
"Why" Helps Suppress Feelings
Dear Chief,
Hmmm, according to this researcher, more information helps us to
suppress our emotions enough to justify a beating.
Perhaps if the cops
and bystanders went on the hotseat at a tribe meeting they would realize
that even alleged criminals deserve due process of the law.
Mirrored
Emotion
from U of C Magazine, April 2006
"...This year Decety probed the crucial role self-control plays in
empathy. “One way to regulate emotion”—and therefore ward off the
paralyzing effects of personal distress—“is to get more information,” he
says.
“If you see a cop beating a guy in the street and you don’t know
why, you feel distressed. It’s overwhelming.”
This happened to Decety
once. He was waiting for a bus in Seattle when five police officers
began thrashing a man in front of a store across the street.
Decety
never found out why. “But,” he says, “if you know that guy was stealing
something from an old woman, or being aggressive, it’s less
distressing,” even though the beating is no less severe.
“That’s why we
care about justice.” The same idea—that pain is more bearable if it
accomplishes some particular good—also holds true, for instance, for a
mother watching her crying child get a flu shot..."
Source:
http://magazine.uchicago.edu/
0604/features/emotion.shtml |
Yes, having a reason can help to tie
feelings in k-nots.

Police Brutality
In this sorry case, the officer,
after restraining the suspect
in her apartment,
goes out to the kitchen for a beer,
and settles into the couch
to watch the football game,
Clip:
http://www.sonnerie.net/logo_coul/
112x112/handcuff |
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Tue, 18 Apr
2006
World Wide
Tribal Network
Dear Ed:
How are you?
I am a Workshop Graduate from May 6-8, 2005 in
Reno.
Almost 9 months after attending the TTP workshop, I found a place where
we could have a regular meeting. ([Asian City] office space is very
limited, and difficult to do the drumming exercise).
So far, I can only identify (including myself) 3 people who are joining
the TTP on a regular basis. Having said that, I met up with [Name]
when I was in NY last August, and there is a guy from the NY tribe who
recently came to [City] for a visit. |
Yes, Tribe members from all over the
world seem to be connecting more and more frequently. |
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Tue, 18 Apr
2006
Wants to Trade Links
Dear TT 95,
I've visited www.seykota.com
today, and really like it. I run a site similar to yours, and I was
wondering if you would like to trade links with me?
I will give your site a prominent listing on my page. |
I post links to other sites (1) to
credit pictures and source data and (2) if I feel the site might be of
particular value to readers.
I do not "trade links" merely to
increase traffic.

Results of Trading Too Many Links
Clip:
http://www.chris.com/wilkinson/
images/queen.jpg |
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Mon, 17 Apr
2006
Snapshot
Ed,
I'm trying to put together a digital snapshot.
My computer skills are about as good as my system development skills.
ROAR!!!!!
I know where I want to be ...
This snapshot is a picture of my wife and me enjoying life after having
acquired health and financial wealth. In this moment, time and existence
are ours to enjoy to the fullest extent ... free, healthy, peaceful, and
in love.
I don't know how to manipulate the pictures, but I like how my the
intention to create a "digital" snapshot has begun to take shape.
I love playing the guitar and making music. It's interesting that the
picture of the guitar is front and center, larger than life.
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You might consider evolving your
Snapshot by presenting it to your Tribe during the
Snapshot Process.
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Mon, 17 Apr
2006
TTP in Law School
Dear Ed,
Hello! I hope this email finds you well and in good spirits. It has been
awhile since we've last communicated, and I wanted to keep you updated
on the path that I have taken thus far.
I am currently finishing up my first year of law school in [City].
So far law school has been interesting, very useful, entertaining, and
sometimes frustrating.
We discuss concepts like "intent", "fault", and
how to "allocate fault" between parties. Though most of the time the law
makes sense, there are times when it makes absolutely no sense.
There
were times when I found myself thinking "What would Ed think of this
case?". Though all students are required to take the basic law classes
(contracts, property, torts, etc.) I am leaning towards specializing in
Intellectual Property law.
As for Trading Tribe I have not attended a TT meeting since classes
began last fall. Prior to school I never missed a TT meeting for the
year and a half that I was with the [Other City] Trading Tribe. I still keep
in touch with them though, and was invited to attend the wedding of one
of our members next month in New York.
I hope things are going well with you and your children in Incline
Village. Please keep in touch.
Sincerely Yours |
Thank you for the update. TTP
and Law are a little like oil and water.

Oil and Water
can mix
Water is a polar molecule and dissolves other polar
molecules; oil is non-polar and dissolves other non-polar molecules.
Soap, a large molecule, has a polar end and a non-polar end.
TTP practitioners can assist mutually insoluble people by
demonstrating a variation of the polarity process in which the
participants learn how to receive each other.
Clip:
http://www.snark.com/~woody/
photography/images/oil-and-water.jpg |
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Mon, 17 Apr
2006
Chicago Politics
Ed,
Jury Finds Former Ill. Gov. Ryan Guilty
By MIKE ROBINSON,
AP Writer
Mon Apr 17, 7:25 PM ET
CHICAGO - Former Gov. George Ryan was convicted of corruption Monday in
the scandal that ended his political career in 2003 at the same time he
was winning international acclaim for commuting the sentences of
everyone on Illinois' death row.
He was convicted of steering state contracts and leases, including a $25
million IBM computer deal, to political insiders while he was Illinois
secretary of state in the 1990s and then governor for one term. In
return, he got vacations in Jamaica, Cancun and Palm Springs, and gifts
ranging from a golf bag to $145,000 in loans to his brother's
floundering business ...
The jury in the state's biggest corruption trial in decades found Ryan
guilty on all counts, including fraud, lying to the FBI and racketeering
conspiracy, which alone could bring 20 years in prison at sentencing
Aug. 4.
His co-defendant, Chicago businessman Larry Warner, 67, was convicted of
racketeering conspiracy, fraud, attempted extortion, and money
laundering.
Prosecutors also want the two men to forfeit the $3 million they say
Warner raked in through state business. The judge will rule on that
request later.
Ryan was the third former Illinois governor in the past three decades to
be convicted of federal felonies. Otto Kerner was found guilty in a
racing stock scandal; Dan Walker was convicted of corruption involving
bank loans. |
Yes. Taxation forces citizens to
surrender their money for things they don't want. It is a form of theft.
A system with taxation as a fundamental basis is fundamentally corrupt.
If you don't like that basket of
apples, you might consider taking your feelings to your Tribe as an
entry point to this core issue.

How To Tell if a Politician is Lying
See if his mouth is open.
Clip:
http://www.mouth-cancer-symptoms.com/ |
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Mon, 17 Apr
2006
Intentions
Hi Ed,
Your quote from 19 Feb 2006 FAQ response:
"Injuries are the result of the intentions of both the shooter and the
shoot-ee to send and receive at the same time and place."
I agree. I also find it very incredible when applied to massive events
such as the dropping of the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. I imagine,
say from a statistical standpoint, what the odds could be of that many
people all having the exact same intention of meeting a violent end at
precisely the same moment in time.
It also reminds me of the intentions of the masses in the booms and
busts in the markets, for richer or for poorer. I just find it
incredible.
I am very encouraged by the same principles in regards to
intentions of success and goodness to ourselves and to others.
Just
thought I'd share. I'd be very interested to hear any comments that you
may have.
Thank you. |
One of my snapshots is a world full
of children who like to smile.

A Smiling Child
is your own reflection
in a clear mirror.
Clip:
http://www.gloucestershire.gov.uk/media/
images/t/k/happy-child.jpg
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Mon, 17 Apr
2006
Rolling Stone Interview
Ed,
1.
After you've done the work, do you get tired of waiting for results ?
2.
How much time do you spend each day doing things you would rather not?
3.
Would you rather have financial wealth and be working on your health, or
would you rather have your health and be working on amassing financial
wealth?
4.
And since it's the season, do you know which came first: the chicken or
the egg?
One day we're gonna see your picture on the cover... |
1. Doing the work is the result. 2. Yes,
sometimes I'd rather do things I pretend I'd rather not. 3. Either-or
==> both and more. 4. C&E come at the same time.

Clip:
http://www.cartoonstock.com/
directory/t/the_chicken_or_the_egg.asp |
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Mon, 17 Apr
2006
For Beginners Only
I want to share my experiences as a beginner of TTP. I am skeptical by
nature and feel initial hindrance to believe in TTP.
Due to 2 reasons I
join a tribe;
1. Ed Seykota believes in it. 2. It's connected to trading.
My intentions are not sincere; "I will accept the psycho stuff in order
to discuss trading system ideas with skilled people".
At the first real TTP meeting some interesting things happen. I find
sending very easy. I just catch a body feeling and stay with it until it
cools down and a new one gives a signal so I can focus on that and so
forth. I find receiving a lot more difficult, but I give it my best
shot.
During the 3 following weeks after the 1st meeting more happens in my
life than previous 2 years.
I feel excited about the effects from the
1st meeting and try to repeat the process by myself at home. It doesn't
work. I think that not much happens at the 2nd meeting.
At the 3rd I
believe I reach the zero point, I feel deep stillness / peace. I think the
feeling of stillness is connected to accepting the flow of life. The
feeling of "this is pointless" that I have before the zero point might
be connected to fighting the flow of life.
I come to the meeting
stressed and worried about a pretty serious problem. I leave the meeting
calm. I feel ready to face whatever comes along.
I think that I am collecting more than contributing to the tribe. I feel
bad about it and want to be a better receiver.
The stocks I have are trending up and my trading is doing fine.
Thank you Chief for creating TTP. Now I believe. |
Thank you for sharing your process.

Part of TTP
is learning to celebrate the fact
that we are always
beginners.
Clip:
http://away.com/images/ski_channel/
best_for/beginner.jpg |
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Sun, 16 Apr
2006
Weight Loss Follow Up
Re: to April 8th: Chart Too
Big
Ed, some of the same feelings and emotions exist in downsizing the gif
file and downsizing myself. I feel frustrated that I do not know how to
create a chart in gif format and even after I figure out how to create
the file I again feel frustration in being unable to down-size it.
I
also feel overwhelmed in attempting to downsize and create the file.
Overwhelmed in the sense of feeling I don’t have the time to figure out
how to downsize the file. These are the same feelings I have in
attempting to downsize myself. The feeling of frustration in not
progressing as quickly as I would like and the feeling of overwhelm in
not having enough time to exercise and complete the every day tasks of
life.
Regarding rewriting my
proclamations in SVO-P:
Ed I am having difficulty rewriting my proclamations in SVO-P. I have
consulted your book and website however I find it difficult to write a
proclamation for the non existent future in SVO-P. Would you be able to
provide some examples or thoughts on my reworked proclamations below?
Below is my attempt to restate my proclamations in SVO-P.
1) In order to create a healthier lifestyle for myself I intend to lose
60lbs and follow the Bill Phillips Body for life program for the next 12
weeks. I will email my weight each Saturday to Ed.
2) In order to be able to back test my trading models I intend to
continue learning visual basic at the local community college.
3) I intend to improve my relationship with my wife by attending
marriage counseling and becoming a more loving husband.
Attached is the weight loss file in 250 X 250 format. It is quite
difficult to read.

Thanks |
You might consider these:
1) ... I
now commit to mailing my weight every week for the next X weeks.
2) ... I
commit to mastering at least X chapters in the VB book every week.
3) ... I
commit to attending counseling sessions every week for the next X
weeks.
Also, you might consider taking your
feelings of wanting to have a good-looking chart and a good-looking you
to your Tribe as entry points. |
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Sat, 15
Apr 2006
Losing a
Daughter to College
Ed,
Since the last meeting, my daughter decides to go to
college at the other end of the country. In many discussions over the
past couple of years I support her in making her decision.
Now it
becomes clear that she leaves in a few short months, essentially
forever. As this reality seeps into my consciousness, I experience
several episodes of deep sadness and I cry.
My family hasn’t seen me
cry much, but since I have been in a tribe, I have tried to allow myself
to feel whatever comes up rather than stuff it down. My older daughter
seems to understand, but the younger, fourteen year old tells me to, “Be
a man. Buck UP!”
I hope one day she gets it. It is clear that I have an
entry point for TTP, and I am thankful that I have a tribe to help me
get through this.
During the snapshot process, I discuss my snapshot and
commitments to achieve it, but it is not directly related to the sadness
I feel. The feeling of sadness begin to pour out anyway, and the tribe
urges me to stay with the feeling.
In the tribe meeting, I take the hotseat and I begin with
crying. Soon I feel a feeling in my lower chest that rapidly develops
into nausea and retching. I vomit several times. The retching
continues for quite a while. I freeze the feeling at maximum many
times. I reach the zero point rather quickly in prior hot seats, but it
takes longer tonight. During several of the freezes get very
close to losing consciousness. I try to stay as long as I can in that
lonely place just before blacking out.
At the zero point, we check out. I thank the tribe for
their support. I really need their help on this and deeply appreciate
it.
My sadness ebbs. I feel the need to tell my daughter
that I love her, and that I respect the decisions she makes. I commit
to have a discussion with her to formally give her her freedom. |
Thank you for sharing your process.

Our Own Childhood Sadness
can re-appear
as sadness about our own children.
Clip:
http://www.amywcook.com/photos/
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Sat, 15 Apr
2006
Father
Deals with Son Lying about Pot
Hi Ed !
The expanded snapshot process flushes out an issue, which I take to the
hot seat. I feel frustration when I see my teenage son acting just like
I did when I was a teenager.
After some preliminaries,
I am on the floor (on a mat) pounding with my left fist. This feels good. I pound with my left forearm, and head, over and over.
This feels good. I take this past the
edge and a large lump in my lower abdomen moves up and out. This is the
conglomeration of knots iI created as a teenager. For all these years
since, then those knots have filtered my perception, affected my
thought, speech and actions. Now they are resolved.
* * *
I take the hotseat at [a subsequent] Tribe meeting to work on the pain
in the butt - an excruciating pain in my right hip
specifically. I go into it and the pain
goes up the right side of my back and down my leg. After the hotseat, I
don't feel the pain anymore. The next day when I go for a 30-minute walk
the pain is about half as intense as it was the day before the hotseat.
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Thank you for sharing your process.

Fathers and Sons
often have much more in common
than either are willing to admit.
Clip:
http://www.thetoque.com/030121/
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Fri, 14 Apr
2006
People Seek Plastic
Surgery to
Feel Better
More ways to avoid the feelings ...
<http://www.neworleanscitybusiness.com/
UpToTheMinute.cfm?recID=3658>
People seeking plastic surgery to feel better
after devastation
by
Amy Ferrara Contributing Writer
2006-04-14 2:30 PM CST
NEW ORLEANS - After Hurricane Katrina, it's not
only the destructed areas seeking cosmetic changes
but also the people who have come back to rebuild
Louisiana.
"People lost so much, so they say, 'Why put it
off?'" says Dr. Penelope Treece, a cosmetic
surgeon at Southern Aesthetics in Metairie. "You
think, 'I could be dead next year.'"
According to cosmetic and plastic surgeons in St.
Tammany and Jefferson parishes, business has
increased since people returned from evacuation.
It isn't just one procedure Louisianans seek from
surgeons. Options include facelifts, tummy tucks,
liposuction, breast reconstruction and
augmentation, and Botox injections.
And some people want it all.
"I was talking to a lady to find out why she
needed (cosmetic surgery)," says Treece. "She
said, 'I lost everything so I'm going to get
everything.' She needed to feel better."
Dr. David Metzner, an aesthetic plastic surgeon
with offices in Covington, Metairie and Vermont,
has tried to understand his industry's boom in the
wake of Katrina.
"Part of it is realizing the future is
unpredictable," Metzner says.
He speculates cosmetic surgery was an investment
some people were considering before the hurricane
and since Katrina proved life is "unpredictable,"
they don't want to delay making personal changes.
Metzner says the industry's increase in business
can also be attributed to people wanting to feel
better and investing in themselves to do so.
Dr. Elizabeth Kinsley, a plastic and
reconstructive surgeon in Covington, says her
business has increased by 50 percent from last
year. "The North Shore has a larger population,"
she says. "Business in general is better, and that
makes plastic surgery a consideration for people."
Kinsley says she talked with a patient who lost a
new house on the Mississippi Gulf Coast a week
after she moved in. She wanted Botox injections.
"I may not have anything," the patient said,
according to Kinsley, "but I'm not going to have
wrinkles." |
Thank you for keeping me abreast of
the situation in Louisiana.

Before Katrina
. . . . .
After Katrina
Clip:
http://www.cosmetic-plastic-surgery.info/
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Thu, 13 Apr 2006
Hot Air
about Gas
Congressional action urged on gas prices
SPRINGFIELD, Ill., April 14 (UPI)
American consumers are demanding
congressional action to slow down skyrocketing gasoline prices, Sen.
Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said Friday.
"Oil companies are living in the fast lane and consumers are being left
on the side of the road," he said in a release in which he cited cases
of extraordinary profits. He urged action on his proposal that he says
would ease the problem.
Durbin's Windfall Profits Tax bill would impose an excise tax on
integrated oil and gas companies equal to 50 percent of their profits
over a baseline price of $40 per barrel of oil.
Part of the revenue would fund a consumer rebate and a low income
assistance program.

Senator Richard J. Durbin
November 21, 1944 -
J.D. Georgetown University 1969
Source:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/
wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/21/
AR2005062101654.html
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Penalizing producers
tends to restrict, rather than expand production.
You can't
legislate a barrel of oil or a bar of gold into existence, nor can you
legislate someone to stop wanting to buy these things.
The only law that works to regulate
prices is the law of supply and demand.
-----
The basis for all the drama about
trying to legislate prices has to do with deep societal k-nots about guilt
and fear. When the left and right hand versions of these k-nots
become willing to to receive each other emotionally as well as than
fight it out legally, we might have a different society.
Of course, we might then need a
place to warehouse unemployable ex-politicians - and the jails are
already full.

Sending Politicians Off to Washington
helps reduce overcrowding
in the prison system
Clip:
http://www.prisonwall.org/exposures.htm |
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Thu, 13 Apr 2006
Music and Emotion
I would love to hear your thoughts on the relationship between music and
emotion.
Personally, I find electronic trance music, which emphasize drum beats,
exciting and euphoric. I always find it supports my focus and
concentration.
I only like my own mixes. |
If you want to know about how I feel
about music, come on over to my place for Tuesday Evening Jam.
Bring your instrument.

If you Want to Learn
how others feel about music
jam with them.
Clip:
http://www.savoymusiccenter.com/
jam_session.html |
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Thu, 13 Apr 2006
Hot Seat
A new experience for me -- a hot seat with another person -- I call it
"getting things clear".
I am surprised that it is so easy to share the
substance of "my" relationship blocks / issues with this person and with
the tribe.
Usually no one wants to hear any disagreements between
people but here at tribe everyone encourages the emotions that come up
as we "discuss" our points of view / status of relationship.
With inventive process managers, our process evolves
to the point where we switch roles, and then switch bodies, and then
switch heads.
Eventually getting clear both in thought and in
feelings. I still recall the shock I feel -- like an electric earthquake
going through me when I hear the very thing I do not want to hear -- but
as I accept this feeling I feel the honesty, support and clarity of the
process.
I note that I still feel a little unsettled - not sad so much as
just unsettled. A feeling I can explore at the next tribe meeting.
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Thank you for sharing your process.

When We See Our Partners
as they really are
in addition to how we want to see them
we can move toward intimacy.
Clip:
http://www.computappoint.co.uk/
images/wallpapers/Agent%20Client%20
Relationship.jpg |
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Thu, 13 Apr
2006
Resolving Father Son Issues
I take the hot seat in a roll playing setting by becoming my won dad
while one of the
other tribe members roll plays as me. We get into the recurring drama
that I have had with my father for years in which I really get to
experience it from his point of view.
We start bickering back and forth putting each other
down and one upping each other. The tribe encourages us to do it more
and really get into it. As this is happening I realize that I (as my
dad) am feeling numb and that all the things that my dad says to me he
does not feel. I realize that he is not actually angry at me. This is
just all he knows and what he does to keep control of everything in his
life, including me.
It is obvious to me that my perception of the drama is totally off base.
My frame of reference is completely wrong. For years I could not figure
out why he would try to hurt me. It all makes sense now. He does not
know that he is even doing it and he is not actually feeling anything.
I now understand that the only way to win is not to play. My feelings
about him and his actions are different now. I see him as just another
person and not just my dad. This is somewhat sad but I am ok with it. I
accept him the way he is.
I thank
my process manager and my tribe for their encouragement and support. |
Thank you for sharing your process

When You Resolve Your Fight With Your Father
You resolve your need to fight
with authority in general
Clip:
http://www.edc.org/hec/pubs/cara/
images_cara/11.gif |
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Thu, 13 Apr
2006
Amazing Hot Seat
I went to the hot seat two weeks ago with a long standing issue that I
had never talked about. It was terrifying and painful to talk about, but
I had been having feelings coming up about it for months.
It seems like my process lasted a long time. In the end I
was exhausted and kind of surprised that I didn't have any immediate
AHA's.
During the next week I'm not sure what happened but I had
lots of AHA's. I can now think about the incident without fear and self
blame.
I've been on my eating plan for 2 weeks with no bad or "wanting
to hide" feelings coming up. That one hot seat made an incredible change
in how I feel about myself. I thank my process manager and my tribe for
their encouragement and support. |
Thank you for sharing your process.

Willingness to Experience your Feelings
sets you free.
http://www.homestead.com/
myjourney/michelle3_op_540x398.jpg
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Thu, 13 Apr
2006
ISBN
What is your book's ISBN ?
Thanks |
ISBN 0-930-08319-9 |
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Thu, 13 Apr
2006
Looking for Soul Mate
In a recent Tribe meeting, I bring up my wanting a soul
mate as an entry point. My forms include on in which I am standing
in the middle of the circle while everyone drums. I experience the
warmth and support of others and notice I do not often feel that kind of
warmth in my relationships.
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Thank you for sharing your process.
TTP can help you untie the k-nots
that subvert your search for a soul mate into a drama.

Eve Hands Adam a Piece of Judgment Fruit
(the fruit of the tree
of the knowledge
of good and evil)
and they loose their lease on paradise.
Next time,
they might consider sharing
feelings and forms
instead of judgments.
Clip:
http://asklynn.net/members/tools/
pagebuilder/clipart/pictures/Photos_Culture/
religion_adamandeve.jpg |
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Thu, 13 Apr
2006
Couple Wants to Stop Fighting
I want to know how to handle fighting with my girlfriend.
We seem to get into this pattern and can't stop it even though we say we
don't want to do it.
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Thank you for sharing your process.
If you are both willing, you might
consider taking your fight pattern to your Tribe as an entry point - and
further develop the form. This might be particularly effective if
your Tribe has other couples who can receive the form.

When Both Parties Fight Willingly
and receive each other
they may see the positive intentions
such as expressing feelings,
defining boundaries
and promoting intimacy
Clip:
http://www.seattlest.com/attachments/
seattle_david2/arguing.JPG |
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Thu, 13 Apr
2006
Soon
Ed,
I'm having a blast interacting with the quantum micro world and
manifesting things in the natural macro world.
Intentions
(energy, focus, thoughts, words) really do equal results. I am a little
sad and angry that I have to be patient while life lines up the people
and events to bring about significant financial changes, but I know the
results of my intentions are on the way because I see the progress
daily.
I'll get to
a tribe meeting soon to address my feelings. It's become quite clear
to me that the DIM stars never shine as brightly as the Galaxy. |
Thank you for sharing your process.

Soon is a Point
in the Non-Existing Future
Clip:
http://www.metlabsolutions.com/
PHOTO%20COMING%20SOON.jpg |
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Thu, 13 Apr
2006
Swamped
I cannot
attend Tribe tomorrow. Friday is an important day (hearing) and I am
swamped since last weekend. I miss the meeting already.
PS: I email my hot seat
write-up from last week soon. It is working great.
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OK. Have fun
in the swamp.

The Western Legal-Political System
rests on the causal model.
Here, the witness, Tasmanian Devil
tries to distract attorney Daffy Duck
while judge Bugs Bunny
observes attorney Foghorn Leghorn
presenting some briefs.
Not showing:
various politicians and their backers
that play golf with the judge
who all have an interest in building condos
to house workers that manufacture
the blue shorts.
Clip:
http://www.cartoondepot.com/pages/
img/wb/le/CC1227%20Legal%20Briefs.jpg
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Thu, 13 Apr
2006
Please
Articulate Your Intentions in Priority Order
Chief Ed,
Re:
Wed, 05 Apr 2006, Communication Trading: Ed Says:
"You might consider providing a personal example of your theory along
with how you feel about it."
I do consider providing a personal example of my theory, along with how
I feel about it.
Upon considering the above, I decide to provide a personal example of my
FAQ-communication theory, along with how I feel about it, subject to one
simple condition.
I ask that you clearly explain your intentions in 'asking' for these
items.
I notice that your response is in fact not a question, nor is your
response a request for any information items. Nevertheless, I choose to
see, hear and feel that it is indeed a question and a request, for more
information about "a personal example of my theory, along with how I
feel about it".
I notice that you rarely suggest or otherwise ask the author of incoming
FAQ content to express any feelings to you in writing, via FAQ. Almost
always, I notice that you remind the writer to simply bring feelings to
Tribe, as an entry point.
This response of yours, strongly divergent from the norm, reminds me to
probe for intent now. Might you please articulate all your
intentions, in priority order?
Secondly (and not a strict condition of me providing a personal example
of my theory along with how I feel about it):
I wonder if you might suggest which segments of personal experience in
FAQ-communication trading I may want to choose to provide, along with my
feelings about them. I write to your FAQ over a period of years, and I
have many documented FAQ-communication trades to choose from. |
Your sends typically ask for lists
of logical structures, and do not reveal much about your feelings.
In response to my suggestion that
you put more emotional juice in your sends, you reply with the item on
the left, that feels like a compliance document.
Your sends are consistent with
someone who demands reasons as a way to avoid sharing feelings and
connecting emotionally.
My guess, reading between the lines,
is that you are afraid of feelings, and emotional connection.
TTP does not cure unwillingness.
If you are currently unwilling to engage your feelings and currently
unwilling to join a Tribe, our best move is to wait until you are
willing.

At The Logic / Emotion Interface
the robot launches an algorithm
to determine the properties of the human
while the human notices the robot's hand
feels cold and metallic.
Clip:
http://www.core77.com/materials/
uploaded_images/vanbezooyen_core77_
electronicskin-737642.jpg
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Wed, 12 Apr
2006
I'm
Unwilling to Attend
Reason: The
Tribe is Holding Me Back
Hi Ed,
I am unwilling to attend the meeting tomorrow as I feel it is dishonest
to myself and the tribe presenting a snapshot that I actually work
against rather than toward.
I do not want
to take the hotseat or feel obligated to put on a performance for the
tribe. My desire is not to turn things up and GO FOR IT with a field of
acknowledgment, but to turn things down and look inside myself for
responsibility. I take responsibility for my own actions.
I appreciate that an entire chapter in The Trading Tribe book seems to
be about me as an incorrigible person. I intend to complete my FIT
snapshot.
Through the
support of my family and an increased awareness of feelings both good
and bad I work on no longer being incorrigible.
It is a difficult decision to stay away from the IV tribe. The bi-weekly
trip up from San Francisco starts as a chore, but quickly changes into a
pleasant experience as I approach the Sierra foothills.
It is a
wonderful feeling seeing the mountains, Lake Tahoe and being welcomed
into your home. I am able to untie plenty of k-nots with my IV hotseat
experiences.
Since first
discovering your FAQ, attending the Oct '03 and May '05 workshops, 2
Breathwork weekends and the London and IV tribe, I see vast improvements
in my personal life and in my trading. However, I am at the point where
I feel IV tribe visits hold me back.
You and I are
well aware of my issues of accountability, the stuffing of feelings,
comfort and anger. Eating and the use of food are my personal weapons to
drive down the feelings I do not enjoy.
Hotseat
sessions make me more aware of this, but the snapshot process and its
extreme accountability plays to all my weaknesses.
I do not
want to be held accountable to anyone except myself. The requirement to
take the hotseat and display willingness backfires on me as I feel a
need to perform for you and the tribe in order to stay an active member.
The only way for me to address this is by no longer attending.
I feel a lot of frustration and anger as a result of the intense IV
snapshot sessions. I present the same snapshot since last May yet make
no progress. The straw that broke the camels back so to speak and
makes me realize tribe meetings hold me back occurs at the last
meeting I attend.
I proudly
check-in with a hard copy display showing I keep my commitment only to
receive a 'no-pass' from several members of the group. I cannot tell you
how disappointing it is when from the bott | |