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April
27-30, 2004
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Questions
(Quotes
from Ed in Red)
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Answers
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Fri, 30 Apr 2004
Passing AHA
"Ed's intention for TTP is for people to experience it, and for it to
disappear and become just another passing AHA."
What a joyous experience!
No Way as Way; No Limitation as Limitation. |
What
isn't - defines what is.

Fractal
Yin-Yang
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Fri, 30 Apr 2004
CM Tricks
Receivers
I go on experiencing feelings to perhaps dissolve an issue regarding the
feeling of me not wanting to experience a business and personal “Black
Swan”.
I decide to pursue this issue for the week as I don’t need this drama to
play in my life.
Set-Up: As my tribe begins to discover and untie the knots, my feelings
regarding this Black Swan manifests in the form of my stomach churning, my
fingers tapping, and toes & heels tapping as well.
Act 1:
After a good while experiencing, I feel an urge to get off the hot seat and
CM tries to trick my receivers by telling them that I am “done”
experiencing my feelings.
I pronounce “Hey
guys, I am done! ... thank you … let’s get each one of your reflections.”
At the same time, my legs stiffen up in the air and I hold my hand behind my
head as if everything is ok perhaps to hide the tapping from my receivers.
After the others reflect on their experience of this issue, one of the
receivers immediately says “No pass, I don’t think so!”, when his turn
arrives. Everyone agrees and starts laughing and focus back on the feelings.
I burst out laughing and admit to the attempted foolery. We go deeper and
unravel another layer of the onion discovering that my reluctance to
experience a Black Swan involves a girl that I am dearly attached to that I
don’t want to let go as we have known and passionately admired each other
all our life since childhood: I only think about this woman.
For a year now, I
refuse to accept the fact that I may have lost this girl forever having had
no contact for a year after I sabotage the communication. I am unable to
move in for other opportunities presenting itself in front of me as I don’t
want to be with anyone else.
At first I bury my head between my legs then in a few moments I lay down
face flat on the floor as I feel burdensome heaviness in my entire body. I
experience this for about 30-40 minutes (maybe more, I don’t know) just on
the floor.
I get up after the Process and this time around, my tribe gives me a pass.
As part of my commitment to myself and my tribe, I write a personal letter
to her and open a line of communication to warm things up again and
eventually find out and share my intentions to her and if it turns out a
loss, I get to cut it fast, experience the feelings that come up and move
on; on the other hand, if I get lucky and her intentions match mine …
fabulous!
I feel much better about taking action instead of wondering for the rest of
my life and not knowing.
The lesson I learn: DIM TTP (Do it myself) restrains progress as the
trickery demonstrates.
I thank my Tribe’s sincere support for me.
Next issue: a knot about the dependency of having a relationship or money;
only one or the other but not both. |
Senders
typically use wiggle-out methods, while working on commitment issues.
The
implicit contract at a meeting is to do the work, so if the Sender tries to
wiggle out, the Receivers respond with "Good - now locate the feeling
of wanting to wiggle out."
The
session is done, and the Sender gets off the hot seat, when he gets a
"pass" from the Receivers.
One
hot seat session completes one "knot" or "issue."
This may include completing several intertwining threads, each with its own
somatic location and properties.
There
are always more feelings, a Sender is never "done," once and
for all.
Detecting
when a Sender is complete with one knot - is an art form, a cooperation
between Sender and Receivers. Good Receiving balances motivating the
Sender forward and also respecting the sender's sovereignty.

Surrender
Implicit
in Attending Meetings
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Fri, 30 Apr 2004
FAQ ++
Hi Ed !
[The System 1 development on the Chart Pages is] raising the level of
serious trading knowledge by a quantum. This is FAQ ++.
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FAQ
does not offer instrument - specific trading advice, or recommend specific
trading system parameters.
Ed
is not recommending any type of system - he is coaching another trader -
helping him to clarify his system.

Tom
Landry
A
coach is someone who tells you what you don't want to hear, who has you see
what you don't want to see, so you can be who you have always known you
could be.
~ Tom Landry
http://www.dallascowboys
fanclub.com/landry1.gif |
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Fri, 30 Apr 2004
The Trader's
Window
Dear Mr. Seykota:
As a follower of your writings (e.g., The Jademaster) over the years, I
would like to send a book to you written by my partner and me. Have you
published The Trader's Window, or is it still a work in progress? If so, we
would be honored to read it.
Sincerely,
P.S. I drive by MIT every day and think of your system trading experiments.
We actually spent several years on a universal system to switch between
trending and anti-trending price movement. |
I
wonder what the difference is between: "would like to send the
book" and "sending the book."
The
Trading Tribe address appears on the Workshop page. |
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Fri, 30 Apr 2004
Job is no Fun
Hi Ed
Congrats again on such a loving website.
A 'life' trading question about a situation please (and I know TTP does not
tell others what they should do about specific situations):
I work about 90-100 hours a week in investment banking, but don't
like it.
I want to leave, though
only have about $20,000 (I paid off all my business school debt, that is why
I have so little).
I do not have a
green card, so it is difficult to find other work here, but more to
the point, it is hard to have time to apply and interview as I work so much.
My heart ('Fred',
say) has told me for about a year to leave. I have not, as my rational brain
says I need another bonus (Jan 2005) as I would have little financial
'cushion' if I quit.
The question is: What does TTP suggest when a rational mental desire for
more money and for not voluntarily becoming temporarily unemployed overrules
the heart and the feelings?
Does that go
against TTP, or is the conflict something to live with? (I think one year is
a long time for a conflict however).
Thanks |
You
might try changing "but" and "though" to "and"
and notice how it feels that way.
The
way you have it set up, one part of the sentence takes responsibility for
the other, rather than you taking responsibility for both parts.
Fred's
is not the feeling in your heart that wants you to leave.
Fred
is the imperative for you to experience all your feelings.
To
the extent you are unwilling to experience your feelings, Fred sets up
situations for you, such as conflict between what you call your heart and
your mind.
You
might take your feelings about your conflict into the process.

Kokoro
Heart,
Spirit, Mind
Clip: http://www.mearns.org.uk/
shoen/images/kokoro.jpg |
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Fri, 30 Apr 2004
Experiment
copy of
Inter-Tribe Communication
Thanks for your write-up, the following is a narration of my experience.
As you know my wife that night went to the theater with some of her friends,
and alas I have to stay home with our six month old daughter, she is just
too young, and we are not setup for babysitters. However I have a strong
desire and solid intention to be there with the group. So as planned I
decide to do TTP on my own during the time we normally meet.
I start at 8:34 PM after our daughter went to sleep; I immediately felt
myself in the conference room where our TTP meetings take place. I can sense
myself being part of the circle. I felt your presence, [add other members'],
however I for whatever reason just could not feel [Name1] and [Name2] being
there with us. I very clearly recall saying to myself, you know [name1]
missed the last meeting and he very rarely misses meetings so he must be
there, he has to be there, but I just cannot feel his presence. Anyway I
just made a mental note of it and set it aside.
Then I heard [name3]'s voice saying 'what stands between you and peak
performance' and off I went ... immediately I felt cold silver steel beam in
the back of my head, then it elongated and went down my spine all the way to
my bottom of my feet.
Then this steel
beam seemed to have sprouted rods that encircled my entire body holding me
in place. I felt very stuck, so I intensified this feeling of being stuck. I
felt these metal rods encircling my head, holding me in place. I am
feeling stuck, locked in, in a straight jacket. The best way to describe the
feeling would be if you recall a scene from this movie Silence of Lambs,
towards the end of the movie when they are transporting Hannibal Lecter,
they have him in that iron cast so he can't even lift a finger.
So I am here feeling very stuck, I feel metal plates starting to press
against my chest, my breathing becomes shallow, I am not even able to move
my diaphragm when I breath. So I kept on intensifying the feelings of being
stuck. The pressure just builds on my chest more and more, pressure in my
neck, in my throat, of being stuck, of being held in place.
Perhaps this is a point where good receivers keep you in place. In my
case I launched into sensory imagery, I felt my self in the apartment I
lived as a child, I felt every room, room after room, felt every detail;
then I felt really being stuck in my body there as a child. Because of my
stuttering not being able to freely express myself, I felt stuck in my body,
I felt the pressure on my chest. I just wanted to be free and exercise my
intelligence, speak my mind. I clearly remember as a six year old crying
before going to school, complaining to my dad that kids make fun of the way
I speak.
Anyway to make a long story short, I think I now know why it is so important
for me to express my self, why I have difficulty from time to time with
sticking with my 100% mechanical system. Why I find it rigid and confining.
I think I still have work to do in this area, my session ended at 9:03PM.
However I think I did significant work remotely.
The next morning when we spoke on the phone and I relayed how I just felt
only four tribe members in the room. Much to my amazement you said that
there were indeed only four members there, and that [name1] and [Name2] who
I just could not sense being in the room were indeed not there !
I think two important things that I take from this remote TTP experience, one
is the power of Intention, I really strongly wanted to be there with the
group and second this whole under Fred network thing which I find
interesting; that how although I am a mile away from where all of you were
in a circle, how I am able to pull up a chair and be part of the TTP circle,
and how I correctly sensed only four members being present.
Well, thanks for leading this 'experiment', we continue the work.
All the best |
The
function of Receivers is to help Senders connect Fred and CM.
Proximity
helps the Receivers harvest clues about the Sender's position (facial
expressions, body postures, gestures, sounds, etc.) and cheer him on through
the same channels.
If
you excite Fred, and attempt to apply TTP without a receiver (The DIM - Do
It Myself - Process) you are likely to wander off, as you report, into
thinking and imagery.
If
you excite Fred and then do not fulfil the connection with CM, Fred may
attempt to complete it by increasing the level of drama.
Dissolving
drama seems to support intuition.

Should-ing
Down a Child
Don't
You ever paint pictures
on
your bedroom wall again!
I
guess I better not act
on
the inner creative impulse - intuition.
It
just gets me in trouble.
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Healthcare/Lynda_Bunnell/images/
4983Shutting%20Down%20Intuition.gif
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Fri, 30 Apr 2004
Experiment
Ed,
Last night our Tribe conducted, a not particularly scientific, but none the
less interesting experiment. We started with three key premises informed by
our experience (something between empirical observation and intuition) over
the past months:
(1) each personal
unconscious communicates via unconscious means with other Freds;
(2) each personal
unconscious has far greater band width on many levels than our conscious
minds; and
(3) the real work
happens as we experience and embrace feelings sent up from the unconscious.
From these
assumptions we took the leap to have everyone in attendance at the Tribe
meeting send simultaneously.
Four members attended, of our normal group of eight (two have gone on
vacation, one had a death in the family). A fifth member could not attend,
but nevertheless participated with simultaneous sending from his apartment,
about a mile distant (I've asked him to relate his experience in a post to
follow).
We began with a round of check in. We followed by setting the following
guidelines:
* We agreed on a general question, which would trigger a specific snapshot
of a goal in each us, for our purposes we used the following, "What
stands in the way between you and peak performance?"
* We would take a moment to relax and shake off the immediate concerns of
the day;
* At the beginning of the sending session each of us, in turn, would ask the
question to the group;
* If at any point in the experiment someone emerged to a wakeful/conscious
mind state they would receive for the others then as their intuition and
receiving skills suggested they would prompt the group again with the
question (What stands in the way...). When or if they felt ready they could
return to active sending.
After setting these guidelines we each described our snap shot. I remember
noting how personal, emotional, and authentic they sounded.
Following the guidelines we all began sending. For my part, I had the most
intense and prolonged somatic experience I have yet had doing this work. In
the course of the session I developed sharp pains in each of my
shoulders. I stayed with them. After some time the pain in my left
shoulder resolved itself and passed, the other did not. I remained acutely
aware of the pain even as it seemed to change in character and shift around
in my shoulder. Sometimes it doubled me over, other times it pressed me
bending me backwards over my chair. Even as it stayed at the forefront of my
awareness of feeling, even as I sought to experience its full measure a
whole range of other feelings coursed through my body, each finding their
own shift, resolution, or ahhh. Some of these felt like shocks of energy
bursting out of parts of my body. At times I passed into a kind of
hallucinogenic state in the intensity of the feelings, something akin to
what I had experienced years ago during a course of holotropic breathing.
At one point I opened my eyes, popped into a receiving consciousness, observed
everyone else profoundly in their own experiences, asked the question,
and followed the resonance of the words back into a deep level of sending. The
pain in my shoulder never left me. An unknown amount of time passed as
the group continued. The character of my experience proceeded in a similar,
but increasingly amplified way -- the shoulder more and more painful, my
continuing to give the feeling all of its due, and wave after wave of other
feelings arising, resolving, and releasing. Some of the others had come out
of their experience and unobtrusively urged the rest of us on while
occasionally repeating the question. A final surge of feeling passed, I
opened my eyes, within a minute the last of us opened theirs.
Each of us related our experiences as best we could. I suspect some went
farther than they might have during a typical TTP session, others perhaps
not as far. We had a quiet almost reverential tone in our voices. I remember
feeling surprised and humbled when one of us glanced at their watch and
realized that we had spent a hour and a half sending!
I don't know if this makes sense for regular or even for occasional
practice. We may need some time to process and better understand the work we
did. I think it has some merit in that leaving the receiving process to the
unconscious, any conscious agendas or dramas of receivers may get
processed more directly.
The pain in my shoulder stayed with me for hours after the session ended.
Walking home, a memory came to me of reading how Paul of Tarsus felt
thankful for the redemptive power of the thorn in his side that kept his
mind on God.
Our remote sender has an interesting tale, which I leave it to him to tell
...
Best regards, |
The
role of the receivers is to facilitate connecting Fred and CM.
When
this connection occurs, the issue and its symptoms seems to disappear for
sender and receivers alike.
Your
experiment - having all senders and no receivers - seems consistent with not
resolving your shoulder pains during the meeting.
If
you activate an item during a meeting and then do not take it to term, you
run the risk of taking an active item home with you.
Once
you awaken Fred, he may emerge with immediacy and vigor - and with an agenda
to get you to complete the experience.
-----
I'm
not clear on your definition of peak performance.

Innovate
Attire for Senders
who
wish to avoid
intimate
connection
with
a receiver
Gold
lame boxers optional.
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Thu, 29 Apr 2004
Trading Tribes
Greetings,
I'm interesting in joining a Trading Tribe. I live in the Atlanta area, yet
noticed that no tribes exist in Georgia.
Any suggestions on how to overcome this barrier would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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See
Tribe Directory for instructions. |
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Thu, 29 Apr 2004
+ 5000% - 75%
Hi Ed,
I'd like to introduce myself ... I'm from the city of Mumbai in India. I've
been a full-time trader for the last 8 years, trading equities (for myself
and for clients) on the Indian stock exchanges.
I've had mixed results:
The first 3 years were stupendous - my accounts were up more than 50 times
(that's 5000%) during that period.
During the next year, I was down about 75%.
During the next 4 years, I've performed indifferently, and my trading equity
today is almost exactly where it was 4 years ago.
Ed, I've been reading your site for about 6 months now. I've been fascinated
with your work ever since I first read the Market Wizards interview.
I've read most of
the FAQ on the site, too. I'm eager to join a Tribe, and have been in touch
with the leader of the Chennai Tribe in India. However, Chennai is about a
thousand miles from Mumbai, and so geographical considerations make it
difficult for me to join. I intend to start a Mumbai tribe (or join one,
if someone else starts one before I do), but don't yet wish to commit to
that.
For the first 3 years of my professional trading career, I used a predictive
approach, based on the Elliott Wave Theory. While my results were
spectacularly good when my predictions were right, they were also
spectacularly bad when the predictions were wrong. I have now abandoned that
approach. In retrospect, I realize that I was very lucky to have done as
well as I did during that initial period.
I've spent most of the last few years developing a Trend Following System
for myself, and now believe I have one that shows potential. However, I am
struggling with an issue that I am finding it difficult to resolve
satisfactorily.
I am aware that FAQ does not recommend system-specific parameters, so I
shall generalize my question to the following:
"Do you
believe that it is desirable that a good trading system allow for NO
discretion on the part of the trader? Do you believe that a trader is making
a compromise by settling for a system that continues to give him SOME
discretion in the day-to-day decision-making process?"
I ask this question because I am finding it VERY difficult to completely
eliminate my role in the entry/exit decision-making process.
In conclusion, Ed, I wish to say to you that in all my years, I have never
come across another human being who is as generous and helpful as you are. I
thank you for the work you are doing, and look forward to meeting you some
day.
Regards. |
The
principles of Trend Trading:
-
trade with the trend
-
ride winners
-
cut losers
-
manage your risk
You
might also add: when strong feelings come up that prevent you from sticking
to your system, experience them.
A
mechanical system can help increase your consistency,
the number of items you can track, and your adherence to the principles.
The
System 1 study on the Chart page documents an attempt at defining a
system.
I
do not know of any systems that are 0% discretionary.
As
you make the transition from discretionary and toward mechanical trading, you
might like to take your feelings about about obedience into the process.

Sai
Baba
Be
Sure You Want To Follow the Master
before
you sign up as a shishya
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sai%20baba%20nieuw.jpg
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Fri, 30 Apr 2004
Did You Teach
[Name]
Ed,
Did you teach [Famous Trader] the trading tribe process?
Thanks. |
FAQ
does not reveal personal information; if you want to know about [Trader],
you might like to go to the source, himself. |
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Thu, 29 Apr 2004
An Observation
All the charts displayed in your Chart Lab are trending up.
regards,
|
The
study shows ten stocks, short term and long term views. On the short
term charts they all seem strong. On the long term charts, half seem weak in
comparison.
The
study intends to illustrate the importance of defining what you mean by
strong and weak. |
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Thu, 29 Apr 2004
Cramp
Dear Mr. Seykota,
I had a cramp in my left leg for "seemingly" no good reason last
night while I was sleeping. I never have a history of having such cramp. Is
it a message from Fred? I don't see this experience as good/bad, but just
curious.
Can TTP help in
hearing what Fred wants to communicate with me in this case? But I don't
know how to re-create the cramping experience.
Naturally when I have such sudden pain, my immediate reaction is to try
whatever I can to alleviate the pain (especially when I am still half asleep
and have no time to think). If there's another cramp in the middle of the
night though, does TTP encourage the full experience of such pain until the
feeling disappears (or our body can't stand and pass out)?
Thanks. |
During
the cramp, if you can experience your cramp quickly enough, you may
be able to "stay ahead of it."
If
you experience it fully, rather than curse it, the pain does not
"hurt" so much.
If
you don't get any major AHA's, You might also check the net and or your
doctor for factors consistent with cramps, like a cold room, recent
exercise, low-carbohydrate diet, etc.

Be
Sure to Experience the Cramp
especially
if you have other ways
to
make it go away.
http://www.hockey.lu/
images/hcl-cramp.jpg |
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Wed, 28 Apr 2004
Trading
Question
I have limited funds to trade due to bad luck at the poker tables.
I would like to
trade spreads as a long term trend follower. Would you support this idea or
decision?
Sincerely,
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FAQ
does not offer instrument - specific trading advice. See Ground Rules.
You
might consider joining an intentional community to examine your feelings
about gambling.
In
getting you to experience your feelings, Fred can just as easily use spreads
as spades.

Fred
Digs Playing Games
in
casinos
and
on Wall Street
Clip:
http://www.nzmagic.com/spades.jpg |
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Wed, 28 Apr 2004
The Consequences
of Experiencing
Feelings
Mr. Seykota,
I can understand the power of experiencing feelings in dissolving dramas.
I have a few
dramas that result in self-isolation, lack of motivation and unhappiness.
However, I'm afraid of the consequences of following this path.
This path of experiencing might yield in dropping my girlfriend who loves me
a lot and to change the city I'm living in and other major changes in my
life.
What about the anti-thesis; the side-effects or drawbacks of this approach?
What about the "experiencing of feelings" TAKING AWAY from you
when bringing other things?
Regards, |
TTP
aims to connect Fred with CM so that Fred does not have to set up dramas to
get you to experience your feelings.
Such
connection may lead to a decrease in drama in your life, and an increase in
right livelihood.
Thus,
you might view your girl friend and your location, from right livelihood,
rather than from knotty feelings.
You
might consider telling your girlfriend about your fear of consequences, and
allow her to receive your feelings.
Perhaps
she can assist you in converting some of your feelings about these issues
into AHA's. |
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FAQ 27 April 2004
Typo in Book
Ed
Says:
I am currently pouring over books to take advantage of the experience
of many before me.
That would be "poring", unless you are speaking in Middle English,
in which it is
"pouren." |
In
this case, it's "poor-En" as in poor-English.
Thanks
for the catch ! |
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Wed, 28 Apr 2004
Trading Tribe
in Asia.
Ed,
Hello ... I really do live in Tashkent,
Uzbekistan. I moved here because it's cheap so I could learn to trade.
I tried the Trading Tribe Process with my wife ... and it worked great to
help me confront my fear to enter a trade.
I'm still interested in perhaps a web session with someone who can help me
through the Trading Tribe Process. |
You
might like to consult the Pollinators Page for more information on
conducting meetings. |
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Wed, 28 Apr 2004
Question re
TTP,
trend following
and system usage
Ed,
I have a question regarding TTP, trend following and system usage.
You recently said that ambiguity is Fred's playground and have stressed the
importance of defining an unambiguous system.
So, is what keeps Fred in control the fact that one has an unambiguous
system, regardless of the type of system it is - trend following -vs- top
and bottom picking -vs- some other type ?
It seems that the answer would be yes given that you also stated that all
profitable systems are, by definition, trend following.
Thanks,
|
Fred
wants you to experience your feelings. If you are willing to do so,
Fred has no desire to "control" you. To the extent you are
unwilling, Fred finds ways to deliver the feeling to you by setting up
dramas.
An
ambiguous trading system of any type provides room for Fred to set up drama
for you in your trading.
Strict
trend followers, with very precise systems, often have trouble sticking with
their discipline. Strong feelings come up that make them jump their
systems. If they learn to experience these feelings, the feelings
dissolve into AHA's. This makes it easier to stick to a system.

Jumping
can
be part of your system
or
part of a way Fred has
to
get you to experience your feelings
Clip:
http://phil.freehackers.org/
photos/jump-roller.jpg
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Wed, 28 Apr 2004
Mental Hygiene
The Trading Tribe cultivates the mind like nothing else. Its a special kind
of skill, a fine art rather than just a psychological science. To the
practitioner, TTP is the subtle art of matching the essence of the mind to
the reality within which it must exist and function. It's principle is not a
thing that can be learned, like a science, by fact-finding or instruction in
facts. It has to grow spontaneously, like a flower, in a mind which
maintains proper hygiene.
To remain in the now, the TT provides mental and spiritual loosening to make
the mind not only agile but free. In order to accomplish this, an individual
has to remain quiet and calm and master the principles of the TTP. The TTP
is not about a blank mind that excludes all emotions; nor is it simply
calmness and quietness of the mind. Although quietude and calmness are
important, it is the non-graspiness of the mind that mainly constitutes the
principles of the TTP.
A TT practitioner employs his mind as a mirror --- it grasps nothing and
refuses nothing; it receives but does not keep. It is a state of wholeness
in which Fred functions freely and easily, without the sensation of CM
standing over it with a club. One practices to let Fred do what it likes
without interference by the separate thinker within oneself. So long as Fred
is free to do what it wants, there is absolutely no effort in letting
feelings go; and the disappearance of the effort to let go is precisely the
disappearance of the separate thinker. There is nothing to try to do, for
whatever comes up moment by moment is accepted, including non-acceptance.
I's not being without emotions or feelings, but being one in whom feelings
are not sticky or blocked. Like a river, everything is flowing on
ceaselessly without cessation or standing still.
The TTP provides right mental hygiene. It prepares one to employ the whole
mind as we use eyes when we rest them upon various objects but make no
special effort to take anything in. The baby looks at things all day without
winking, which is because his eyes are not focused on any particular object.
He goes without knowing where he is going, and stops without knowing what he
is doing. He merges himself with the surroundings and moves along with it.
Therefore, the TTP does not have the usual sense of restricting the
attention to a single sense object; it is simply a quiet awareness of
whatever happens to be here and now.
These are the principles of proper mental hygiene.
Sincerely,
-----
I've been
attending an intentional community consisting of my sister and myself for
about a year now. In the beginning the going was very confusing and tough -
about five months ago the damn burst and we managed to make some serious
head way. We keep learning and evolving.
My sister decided to quit her job and went back to school to get her PHD, I
decided to invest all my time and energy into trading & research and now
trade full time. Thank you for this forum, your guidance and wisdom. |
Yes
!

Brother
and Sister
When
you know how to ride a bike
you
don't need training wheels.
When
you dissolve the distinction
between
sending and receiving
TTP
disappears.
Clip: http://www.juniorlinks.com/
imageLibrary/brother%20and%20sister.jpg
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Wed, 28 Apr 2004
Passing AHA
I notice the System 1 development journal no longer exists. Was it just
another passing AHA?
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Making a cup of tea is easy. First, one must create the universe -- Richard
Feynman
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System
1 Development Journal is back on line - down overnight for repairs.
You
create (your experience of) the universe by experiencing it.
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Tue, 27 Apr 2004
New Trend
Following Book
Hi Ed
http://www.trendfollowing.com
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OK.

The
Essence and Practice
of
Trend Following
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Tue, 27 Apr 2004
Confusion with
Good and Bad
Dear Mr. Seykota,
Please correct me if I misinterpret TTP. My take is that “If we are
willing to genuinely experience, celebrate and feel the so-called ‘negative’
feelings, those feelings tend to dissolve.” Now, does it mean if I
genuinely celebrate the so-called “positive” feelings, then those
“positive” feelings will also dissolve? If on the other hand I wish to
retain these so-called “positive” feelings, do I intentionally avoid
them so that Fred has to amplify those feelings?
On a similar but slightly different note, if by embracing bitterness and
feeling bitterness I can dissolve bitterness, does it also mean at
the same time I dissolve sweetness as well? If losing doesn’t mean
anything, then neither does winning?
Wait, it just hits me. Is this what you talk about the pain of winning and
the joy of losing? Or am I completely misunderstand it? Can you please
kindly clarify? Thanks.
ciao,
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If
you re-write "so-called" in SVO-p, you may find that you
are the one doing the so-calling.
Sweet
is just sweet and sour is just sour, neither being good or bad, unless you
so-call them.
To
the extent you are willing to experience your feelings, judgments like
"good" and "bad" dissolve.
The
meanings (of sweet, sour, winning, losing or
even meaning) do not exist, outside yourself.

The
Meaning of Sweet and Sour:
Yum,
yum, yum !
Clip: www.cynicor.com/chinese/
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Tue, 27 Apr 2004
Discretionary Fred
Ed,
I don't have resources like a computerized platform and, as a matter of
fact, I am not interested in mechanical trading. I notice also that many
successful traders have a (mechanical) system that works and the ability to
follow them. So, is there such a thing as a "discretionary
system", which is not ruled by Fred? |
Fred
wants CM to experience knotty feelings. To the extent CM is unwilling
to do so, Fred may entrain naughty dramas, perhaps in your discretionary
trading. |
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Tue, 27 Apr 2004
Book
Dear Ed,
I am amused by your ordering books on how to write. Your humility is
a nice aspect of your character which I admire and endeavor to emulate.
However, to make a
comparison I quote your own words back to you " Actual sex is much
different than reading a sex manual."
The book is
already within you. Getting it on to paper is the trick. Rewriting and
editing might be more time consuming. More importantly I would draw your
attention to this:
Virtually every facet of a literary property can be exploited for commercial
gain in all media throughout the world.
At the turn of the millennium, literary assets are among the most valuable
assets in the world. [Name] assists writers in creating and earning major
income from their stories and information. Foreign rights can be more
valuable than domestic.
With kindest regards |
I
am currently poring over books to take advantage of the experience of many
before me.
Why
do so many fail ... because hardly anybody treats getting published as if it
were a rational manageable activity ... in which knowledge coupled with
skill and application can lead to success. Instead, almost everybody
approaches the phases of the publishing process ... by trusting exclusively
to luck, to merit, to formulas, or to somebody else. -- From How to Get
Happily Published, by Applebaum.
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Tue, 27 Apr 2004
The Playground
Ed Says:
Ambiguity
in a trading system is Fred's Playground.
I am not clear as to how you select your instruments.
I am not either. Fred is selecting them for me deliberately, and having a
lot of fun. |
You
seem to be aware of your ambiguities and not particularly motivated to
resolve them. You seem to be in the same boat with a lot of people.

Titanic
All
aboard
and
having a lot of fun.
http://www.100.nist.gov/titanic.jpg |
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Tue, 27 Apr 2004
Trend Following
+ 10, 30, 30, 50
Hello Ed,
I have been reading your FAQ pages and have gained lot of knowledge. My
trading system does not involve lot of technical indicators. My system uses
simple technical trading rules and I stick with them.
here are my simple rules:
- ride the trend
- always put stop loss order
- keep initial stop loss small
- don't buy if the risk is high - for me this
is about a $1-$2
- once the stock moves, move the stop loss up
{not too close that it gets hit - sometimes
it does get hit}
- don't get all
exited/tensed when the stock moves for/against you - hard to do but I am
getting better at not panicking when the stock goes against you - still
needs some work.
- sit tight
- do my homework
To be worked on:
- Monitoring stocks too often during the day. Trying to get rid of this
habit. Some of the stocks I own trade on OTCBB and I cannot put stop loss
orders for these positions.
I use [name] for my trading. Free account.
My accounts for the last year have gained 10%, 30%, 50% and 30%. This is the
first time in 10 years that I haven't had a losing year. Seems like I could
continue on this path.
Thanks for your wisdom
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Good
Work !
You
might try celebrating your monitor habit, and the feelings that go with it.

Consulting
with your Monitor
can
bring up intense feelings
Clip: www.clackson.com/danger/
lizard.htm
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