With and Without
Without Tribe, I do not change my ways.
Without Tribe, I do not marry my beautiful bride.
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With Tribe, I become a profitable trader.
With Tribe, I become a family man and loving husband.
With Tribe, I notice how my feelings influence my decisions.
With Tribe, I dictate my life and accomplish my goals.
My wife and I
|Thank you for sharing your process and your photograph.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and wisdom generously.
I come across your website last month and I then proceed to read the
entire FAQ starting from 2003 to the present.
I am intrigued by your snapshot process and notice its evolution from
the hardball process, to the bumper sticker process, to its current
I recall that you want to move to a process-centric snapshot from an
I also notice the confusion that contributors have with using specific
numbers in their snapshots.
I proceed to research the web for information on best ways to visualize
I come across this article in Forbes that suggests that Positive
Visualization might be counter productive.
I recall some contributors having mixed results with snapshots - they
achieve their goals and regress.
I wonder if this might be related to the Forbes article.
I wonder what your thoughts are on the Forbes article.
Thanks for inspiring me to live a good life as a trader, as a father,
and as a husband.
you for raising this issue.
In TTP we define a Problem as the difference between a goal situation
and a current situation.
We then examine the client's perceptions and feelings
about the problem - and how he responds to those feelings.
We call the client's response policy (that links his feelings to his
response) a Rock.
Clients may have Medicinal Rocks and Pro-Active Rocks.
Medicinal Rocks motivate actions that medicate the feeling by
acting directly on the feeling, such as: [feel stress --> have a
Pro-Active Rocks motivate actions that move the situation toward the
goal, such as: [feel stress --> marshal resources to complete
In the TTP Rocks Process we identify Medicinal Rocks and replace them
on a deep level with Pro-Active Rocks.
We may use the Snapshot Process or one of its derivatives as an entry
point to the Rocks Process.
One Good Trend
... Pays for Them All
... I am a trader from [Country].
I would like to thank Mr Ed Seykota for his song, while it helps me a
lot in my trading style.
When I am in a transaction I always sing his song "One good trend will
pay for them all" and it helps me to stay in a good transaction as long
as the trend finish the direction.
I wish him every best, thank you very much :)
you for acknowledging The Whipsaw Song.
- Closer to Mom
arrive at the meeting nervous, yet willing and ready to take a Hot Seat
(HS). At my turn to take the HS, I state I have strong feelings when
people criticize me. I sort of believe I am ok, but the feeling that I
am not ok overrides. The center of my chest feels as though it is being
pulled in from inside my body.
I curl up into
a small ball and cry. I realize am in my childhood room being told I
cannot do what I want to do when I grow up … be a model. My mother tells me I am not
pretty enough, I am not tall enough and never will be tall enough. That
I am not good enough.
Process Manager (PM) guides me through sharing feelings with my
[role-play] Mother — Beginning with establishing report by thanking her
for sharing and asking her if she is willing to share more.
focusing on her feelings first, I am able to understand that she is
just trying to protect me from being hurt by the “outside” world. The
PM then guides me through sharing my feelings, letting her know that
she hurting and stifling me by keeping me in a box / cage and not
letting me try, fly and learn … even if it means I might fail. I need
her support to soar.
My [role-play] mother seems to have an
AHA moment and realizes that what I need is her love and support. By
sharing feelings, my mother and I reach a new level of intimacy. I
realize by being open with our feelings, I get the support and love I
have needed for so long, and my mother is assured that I am a strong
and capable person.
ends with my [role-play] mother giving me a hug that transcends time
the hug she tells me I am pretty, smart, and can do anything I want,
and she will support me. I immediately feel a shift in my life. Since
returning home, I have received nothing but support and love from my
[real] mother during a very trying time in my life. We have a Mothe /
Daughter weekend planned very soon … a weekend I feel we will soar
I thank the PM and the entire Tribe for this amazing process.
you for sharing your process and your results.
- Falling Walls
Reading over my issue I wanted to address at the Tribe meeting, I feel
that I was resisting situations.
the Tribe, situations have arisen to surface the feeling of frustration
at people from people to test how I now felt about all of this. I felt
this feeling for 5-10 minutes, thought about it, and then decided that
feeling this resistance as if I am up against a wall was not something
I wanted to feel for months, years and ongoing.
scenarios it takes less effort to spend the 10-15 minutes to resolve
it, take note of the event, and think about what I can do to avoid this
next time. In some cases, it was a matter of simply accommodating
people and making life easier for myself. In the case of students and
websites, it was by minimising ambiguity and not assuming that just
because I wrote something once, that people would read it, process it,
and do their best to not make mistakes.
things, writing clearer instructions, etc, I no longer had to own
someone else’s thought process of mistakes. I had control over what I
could do to help the situation.
In another scenarios where I
was charged a ‘chargeback fee’ by Paypal for someone else frauding my
account, I addressed it immediately and contacted the owner of the
credit card advising them to protect their card and notified what had
happened, and also gave paypal all details of the refund – Paypal still
decided to charge me a fee for this fraud. After feeling the full
extent of frustration for 5-10 minutes, I thought about what energy I
wanted to invest in this. There are some battles that are not worth the
investment. This one was one of them and I acted accordingly.
the Tribe meeting I felt I was able to feel closer to my mother without
even talking to her. I haven’t spoken to her yet. I wanted to process
these thoughts longer, but I have a feeling of wanting to be close to
my life I wanted to keep a separation between us. I feel it is time to
break down that wall I built up that no longer serves me. I can only
imagine the hurt she feels that I maintained this wall for so many
years, and at the same time have her personal safely compromised
constantly by my father.
I feel tears
form in my eyes as I write this but they are relieving tears.
I feel it is easier to disassociate from other's drama that they play
you for sharing your process and for sharing your insights and results.
- Just Water
arrive at the Tribe meeting ready to work. We check in and I take the
first Hotseat. I begin with a form and go from there. I have a memory
of a seeing a small red light that gets bigger and I go into it. And
then out of it or rather through it. I don’t know.
have a memory of the PM speaking clearly and guiding me. I have a
memory of the PM saying “you can put this off until tomorrow,” and I go
deeper into the red light.
I experience a montage of
events from a baby receiving a spanking, a small boy standing by a bed
with toys shoved under the bed, an older boy by a fireplace, and an
older boy on the other side of the fireplace.
experiences are connected. I seem to cycle between all the events: a
spanking, a belt whipping, a punching. I see my sister giving me
instructions on how to stop dad from whipping us with a belt. She says,
“Just cry and he’ll stop.” She says it in a caring way. It’s the first
time I have a memory of her doing/saying something nice for me. I
marvel at how easy it is for her to cry and make dad stop hitting us.
She employs the crying technique effectively.
I feel a lot
of pain and struggle to speak. I can’t seem to speak as a baby and
transfer to a boy that can speak and then back to a baby. I have a
memory of going back and forth attempting to speak as a baby. The baby
and boy seem to integrate and scream “Stop!”
Another tribe member tells me there are role players. I have
no memory of this.
the process, I meet with my father and feel pain and anger. I ask him
how he feels, and notice that I don’t really care how he
feel angry. I ask to share feelings but don’t really want to.
PM tells me to stick with the feelings. I do not have a memory of
this—another Tribe member gives me this information. The Tribe member
tells me that the PM continually offers suggestions to “stay with the
feelings.” And the PM helps keep me on the “feeling” track.
Again, I have
no memory of this. The other Tribe member tells me about it.
do have a memory of the PM gently telling me I have to establish
rapport first. I notice that I’m not establishing rapport. I start to
go into my head (thinking) “well that’s not going to work—the guy, my
dad, is such an asshole.” I go with the process and try to establish
rapport. I have a memory of establishing rapport, but I have no memory
of what I say. It’s all blurry.
I get rapport, I see my father and there is something different about
him. I don’t know what it is, but I’m not scared of him anymore. I
don’t know if I have a memory of him or if I’m just making something
up, and he seems small and afraid. He seems confused. Again, I don’t
know if that is something I’m just making up or if it is a memory. It
seems real to me.
notice that I am only eating when I’m hungry. I no longer have a desire
to eat a bunch of ice cream. That is so strange to me. I no longer have
a desire to go get a bunch of donuts or something heavy to eat. I’m
drinking a lot of water.
I’m also continually
moving in the sense that I’m getting things done without having a need
to sit and “chill out.” I’m getting stuff done. At dinner, I don’t
overeat. And all I want
to drink is water — not tea or Diet Coke, or anything else.
Just water. And that’s OK with me. I notice that I'm losing weight
without trying to lose weight. I'm also going to sleep earlier and
waking up earlier.
I thank the Tribe for running the process with me. I especially thank
the PM for the guidance and management of the process.
you for sharing your process and results and for documenting the
- Calls 10 and Gets 3
to the Tribe Meeting, each applicant submits an essay. The Tribe Leader
invites only those with a major issue, who present evidence they
actively work on this major issue.
En route to the meeting
I clarify and rewrite my major issue essay twenty times by hand. My
goal becomes very precise and makes the important shift from me wanting
to find new clients to serve, to me wanting to help clients I can serve
Every member arrives HOT, early, and ready to work. We work on feelings
every moment. There's no dancing around the issues.
Process Manager ("PM") works very hard to keep each Hot Seat ("HS")
deep in feelings while gently - and precisely - encouraging HS to
remember a critical event from their formative years so we may arrange
a role-play. I observe the delicate balance between keeping HS in deep
feelings mode and inviting them to recall a critical event.
explore physical abuse, verbal abuse, and neglect each tribe member
experiences as a child. As I type this I shake my head and feel watery
eyes - children are beautiful, innocent, wonderful gifts from heaven -
not targets for parents who can't express sadness, anger or
frustration. I feel exhaustion thinking about how much energy and
commitment PM needs to stay on task. I recall the high energy levels I
need to keep focus.
I also recall
being so deep in my feelings during my process, it's difficult to
remember exact details.
I do recall is, upon fore-giving (giving back) unproductive, automatic
response patterns to my rock donor, I realize hiding away isn't really
much fun. I like to have fun, have many gifts to share, and enjoy and
appreciate the company of others. I feel amazement at how this strongly
this pattern previously shapes my life. Desert-island existence might
work for others, it doesn't work for me. Iron sharpens iron, as one
person sharpens another. I notice action and results on my part: I call
10 people and 3 agree to meet with me.
I wish to
express my very deep gratitude for everyone's support at the meeting. I
admire your bravery, honesty, and willingness to work.
I recall the Tribe Leader suggests he may not need Tribe once his
relationship issues resolve. I wonder if that might provide subtle
motivation to keep relationship issues around.
you for sharing your process and insights and for documenting the
I feel glad to see you recently host Austin tribe meeting. Tribe
meetings are always fun and productive.
I get to know a new enthusiastic Tribe member and we are having more
frequent small meetings, in addition to biweekly meetings. I feel less
hungry of Tribe meetings and feel satisfied by my local Tribe work load.
we focus not only on enjoying the meeting itself, but also take effort
to run booster ad-hoc process to help each other to embed what we
acquire in meetings into everyday real time applications. I make some
process on the ability to catch feelings on the fly and apply intimacy
method, but more important, I get to know I still have huge room for
This year I spend lots of effort on my system
design. I give up vacations to continue my programming and research,
while my family went back to [Homeland] in the summer. Now I have a
basic profitable system, trading global markets. I am doing order
automation design now.
My system seems to work due to its
broad market selection. It diversifies by nature. I feel a little
unhappy about his. I try several times to figure out
dynamic portfolio selection strategy to make it more robust,
diversifying by managing correlation or so, less depending on spreading
out among broad markets selection, and without success. The method I
use to manage portfolio dynamic correlation and dynamic selection never
beats the the method which just simply trade all markets with small
risk on each.
While I decide to start to trade my fully
diversified system (which has some portfolio total heat management
method I invent), I want to continue tackle the dynamic portfolio
selection and risk management, as well as the pattern recognition you
mentions in TSP. I target early next year to shift focus to marketing
and getting my CTA, I feel a little behind, or imperfection.
am wondering if you would like to help me to design the missing pieces
of the puzzle? I have a budget of nearly $30,000.00 which I can pay you
with your $1000 hourly rate. If you agree to help me, I am happy to
send payment over and send you my intentions on what I want to improve
on my system, and get ready to work.
you for raising this issue.
You might consider writing a system spec for the modules you want to
include in your system.
You may find that, once you define them, you can also see an easy way
to encode them.
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